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I only get symptoms as described by the OP when deeply inhaling into the lungs, when I was trying to use my PV like a cigarette and going hard and heavy on high nicotine (for me) liquids.
You just don't need to do it.
Once I learned to "inhale" like I do with cigars (which I will never give up), I was fine.
Just take a long, slow draw. Inhale into the nasal and esophageal cavities, or swallow. And slowly exhale.
You just don't need to do it.
Once I learned to "inhale" like I do with cigars (which I will never give up), I was fine.
Just take a long, slow draw. Inhale into the nasal and esophageal cavities, or swallow. And slowly exhale.
Too much nicotine, and too much pg. Try higher vg like 70% at least! Reduce nic levels stat, 6mg nic, or 12mg nic. Helped me.
Tons of suggestions
Most only based on personal experience
Only your body has the answer that is correct for you.
vaping ingredients are likely no different that many other things people encounter in life.
Some cannot eat strawberries
Milk is deadly to others
while Sugar will Drop a diabetic
However there are acceptable safe substitutes for almost everything.
Most only based on personal experience
Only your body has the answer that is correct for you.
vaping ingredients are likely no different that many other things people encounter in life.
Some cannot eat strawberries
Milk is deadly to others
while Sugar will Drop a diabetic
However there are acceptable safe substitutes for almost everything.
Ok so I have been off e-cigs for several days now and went back to smoking analogs. My chest doesn't hurt during the day, but at night (say 9 PM), it starts in again. It's like a dull pain and sorta radiates to my back. I am also kinda short on breath (my lungs always feel "full"). I have anxiety issues, so when this starts happening, I get all anxious and my heart starts racing and I begin freaking out (lol). Part of it is the pains, but the pains sorta bring on my anxiety which makes it worse. I think the pains are real and not just "stress" because I can be sitting back relaxing when they begin happening.
I went to the doc about 2 weeks ago when this first started happening. They did a full blood workup and said I have no cardiac condition. The doc did a chest X-ray and she said she saw some "irritation" in my lungs and thought it could be a touch of bronchitis. She asked me why my eyes were so bloodshot. In any case, she gave me an antibiotic injection and sent me home. I also tested negative for pneumonia so we ruled that out.
I do have asthma (or I did as a kid) but as an adult I very rarely have any issues with it (usually it only acts up around cat dander) so I don't know how that plays into all of this. Also, for the past two weeks my eyes have been bloodshot. This usually only happens to me when I am around something I am allergic to (like cats).
At any rate, this is why I am thinking I do indeed have an allergy to something in my e-liquid. I think I also understand why it only happens at night -- that's when my wife gets home and begins vaping. After a couple of hours of her vaping, I start to get the chest pains. Or, it could be completely coincidental, I don't know.
This all really sucks because when I vaped I had no desire to smoke, but the pains and worry are not worth it. I will have to use the pach I guess. I quit for a full year one time with the patch, but started smoking again one night when I was at a night club drinking.
So, just putting this out there for anyone else who might have experienced similar symptoms. I don't know if it's the PG, VG or flavorings, and I really don't feel like experimenting to find out. Also, since e-cigs are so new, there isn't a lot of research behind them. Most doctors look at you like you have two heads when you tell them you are vaping. This, to me, is a problem and I really hope we can get some funding for some real research.
At least with analogs I know what I am getting. Sure, I am getting a slow death, but at least I know I can do it in comfort. lol
I went to the doc about 2 weeks ago when this first started happening. They did a full blood workup and said I have no cardiac condition. The doc did a chest X-ray and she said she saw some "irritation" in my lungs and thought it could be a touch of bronchitis. She asked me why my eyes were so bloodshot. In any case, she gave me an antibiotic injection and sent me home. I also tested negative for pneumonia so we ruled that out.
I do have asthma (or I did as a kid) but as an adult I very rarely have any issues with it (usually it only acts up around cat dander) so I don't know how that plays into all of this. Also, for the past two weeks my eyes have been bloodshot. This usually only happens to me when I am around something I am allergic to (like cats).
At any rate, this is why I am thinking I do indeed have an allergy to something in my e-liquid. I think I also understand why it only happens at night -- that's when my wife gets home and begins vaping. After a couple of hours of her vaping, I start to get the chest pains. Or, it could be completely coincidental, I don't know.
This all really sucks because when I vaped I had no desire to smoke, but the pains and worry are not worth it. I will have to use the pach I guess. I quit for a full year one time with the patch, but started smoking again one night when I was at a night club drinking.
So, just putting this out there for anyone else who might have experienced similar symptoms. I don't know if it's the PG, VG or flavorings, and I really don't feel like experimenting to find out. Also, since e-cigs are so new, there isn't a lot of research behind them. Most doctors look at you like you have two heads when you tell them you are vaping. This, to me, is a problem and I really hope we can get some funding for some real research.
At least with analogs I know what I am getting. Sure, I am getting a slow death, but at least I know I can do it in comfort. lol
What you describe as your chest pains is exactly what I feel when using standard PG/VG mixes. I went to 100% PG free and was OK.
I've since gone to DIY and anything over 10% PG would make me feel that way (it's hard to find PG free flavorings). Since doing DIY and using 10% PG I'm able to handle that mix more than I originally could (I'd use my 10% along with some PG free through the days).
Don't lung inhale. You don't need to with either vapor or smoke. Just ask a pipe or cigar smoker.
sounds like you where really looking for a way to start smoking again instead of trying different things to figure out what the problem was
i have the same allergy i use 100% vg from velvet cloud vapor and im right as rain..... no need for analogs...
Not really, any physical discomfort, is the body's way of handling telling you, some thing is not right. I think if the OP just wanted to go back to smoking, he would not have made his post here. IMHO
OP, you stated you acquired some glycerin (USP) and tried it, but didn't post the result. What happened? Did you get a reaction?
Interesting:
I am experiencing increasing signs of sensitivity to a juice ingredient or ingredients.
I am currently developing challenge tests to try to discover the culprit.
Vaping 100% unflavored VG with 0mg nicotine does not cause any reaction, so I can probably rule out VG. I doubt nicotine is the problem, but my next test will be 100% unflavored VG with nicotine, which I also happen to have on hand.
Right now my primary suspect is PG, because I have read it's the most common allergy/insensitivity problem, but I can't yet rule out a common flavoring or sweetener.
I am experiencing increasing signs of sensitivity to a juice ingredient or ingredients.
I am currently developing challenge tests to try to discover the culprit.
Vaping 100% unflavored VG with 0mg nicotine does not cause any reaction, so I can probably rule out VG. I doubt nicotine is the problem, but my next test will be 100% unflavored VG with nicotine, which I also happen to have on hand.
Right now my primary suspect is PG, because I have read it's the most common allergy/insensitivity problem, but I can't yet rule out a common flavoring or sweetener.
It's made from vegetables. That dose not mean it contains vegetables.
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Depending on who you get your juice from you may be able to check the sweetener too. Most use stevia AMD you can get that at walmart in the sugar isle.
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If for some reason it is the nic you would need to try lower nic levels and see if its just too high. Keep in mind while you are working on this pg will increase the throat and lung hit of nic.
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