Thinking about buying a Kayfun 4 (Need help!)

[Merridew]

Alright so I wanna buy the kayfun 4, but I have a few questions.

1 - Do I really need to take it apart and clean it? I've heard that it's good practice to clean everything when you first receive it to remove machine oils and other residues... but when I cleaned my Halo Triton tank and Aspire K1 they seemed to stop functioning properly. Are there parts I should avoid cleaning to avoir destroying the atty?

2 - Are clones worth it? I think I'm gonna go for the original to make sure, but I wouldn't mind saving money.

3 - What kind of battery/mod should I buy to use with my kayfun? I'm always gonna use single-coil builds above 1,0 ohm. Is purchasing the Istick 50w an overkill?
I currently have and Aspire CF VV 1600 mAh and I'm not sure if I could use that.

Thanks for your help.

 

[fogmust]

Here's my two cents:

1- I have a Tobeco clone that I did not clean prior to use, but I have to say that it did look squeaky clean and it didn't smell like oil either. No metal shavings, no other crap. However, if you watch the PBusardo China trip videos, you might want to sterilize every single atty that you buy... Your call. I don't think you can damage it if you take out the o-rings and treat everything carefully.

2 - Again, my is a Tobeco. It leaks like crazy. Or it leaks a little, depending on how careful I am, but nevertheless, it always leaks. I have an authentic o-ring kit on the way and I'll replace them all, but I have to say I'm disappointed by what is supposed to be the best clone out there. A K4 is a sophisticated atty with 41 parts. Difficult to clone and QC, so if money is not an object, go for the authentic. And you support R&D this way too.

3 - the istick 50w is awesome. Even if you don't need the W power, the battery life on this thing is phenomenal. USB chargers are all over everybody's house these days, just plug it in, charge it and vape for days.

HTH.

 

[roxynoodle]

1. You really should clean any atty before using it, even authentics. You can leave the o rings on

2. I have a Tobeco that's perfect, but YMMV. There are other good clones, too: EHPro, Infinite and HCigar. Most authentic k 4s are excellent.

3. We are suddenly seeing a lot of failures on the new isticks I have 3, but in light of this, I'm not currently recommending them. You can get a Sigelei 50W for a few dollars more, and at this time I think its a better mod.

 

[stevegmu]

You didn't say your budget, so I would recommend a real Kayfun 4 and ProVari from ProVape--

Kayfun V4 P3 connector

Cheap junk just ends in frustration and being more expensive in the long run...

 

[HDMontana]

I have 3 Tobeco V4's. Have performed flawlessly since getting them over a month ago. No leaks and still running original parts in them. Lately, I have been running then on a istick 50, Cloupor mini 30 and a Sigelei mini 30. The Kayfuns work well on all 3 mods.

 

[cinetrope]

My EHPro and HCigar clones both cost around $40.00 and work flawlessly. I did strip them down and thoroughly clean them before use. It's not that difficult and it's a great way to familiarize yourself with their parts and workings.

 

[Merridew]

Thanks for the replies!

I guess I'm gonna go with the Sigelei.

About the cleaning, can I just soak the atty in vodka without taking it apart completely? They K4 seems like a pain to put back together.

 

[Merridew]

You didn't say your budget, so I would recommend a real Kayfun 4 and ProVari from ProVape--

Kayfun V4 P3 connector

Cheap junk just ends in frustration and being more expensive in the long run...

You do have a point. I've heard the ProVari is the Cadillac of vaping so maybe I should get that instead.

Do you recommend the classic or the ProVari 3?

Also, are the battery upgrades worth it?

 

[roxynoodle]

Break it down to its major parts. You don't have to take all the parts out of the base, but take out the post screws as oil likes to hide in the posts. I let them soak in alcohol, then scrub the insides of the parts with a small child's toothbrush. Then rinse well in hot water.

 

[stevegmu]

You do have a point. I've heard the ProVari is the Cadillac of vaping so maybe I should get that instead.

Do you recommend the classic or the ProVari 3?

Also, are the battery upgrades worth it?

Much more reliable than Cadillacs. More like the Honda of e-cigs.

Depends on the power you think you need. There are legions of ProVari owners who get a more than adequate vape from a Kayfun on a 2.5. The new Classic looks very tempting, but if you need a little more power, then P3.

By battery upgrades, you mean the extra extension ring for the Classic?

 

[Merridew]

I'm don't think I need an insane amount of power as I'm currently vaping with a Halo Triton. Might as well stick with the Classic.

Yes I meant the extension ring.

 

[stevegmu]

I'm don't think I need an insane amount of power as I'm currently vaping with a Halo Triton. Might as well stick with the Classic.

Yes I meant the extension ring.

I get a great vape at around 7-8 watts...

It's only $8, so I'd go ahead and get it...

 

[roxynoodle]

If you like the Provari, it is well made and will do fine with a k 4

 

[Merridew]

If you like the Provari, it is well made and will do fine with a k 4

Can't wait to try it out.

I'm on provape.com right now and I'm not sure which batteries and charger I should get. Are their chargers compatible with all batteries?

 

[roxynoodle]

I would get the 18490s. Higher amp rating, especially the new AW 1200mah ones. Maybe 18650s for longer life between charges, though they do make the Provari kind of long. I'll go look at the chargers.

18350s are very compact, but you will be more limited due to the lower amp rating, and you'll have to change them a lot more often.

 

[roxynoodle]

I would get 2 of these: AW IMR Batteries: Ecigarette Batteries, ECig Batteries, Battery 18500

And if you want, 2 of these with the extension ring:AW High Drain Rechargeable Batteries | Best 18650 Batteries

And this charger: Battery Charger for Electronic Cigarettes, Digital Dual Bay Charger

 

[stevegmu]

Can't wait to try it out.

I'm on provape.com right now and I'm not sure which batteries and charger I should get. Are their chargers compatible with all batteries?

The ProVape charger is compatible with all the batteries a ProVari can use. I have 2 and they work great. If you get the extra extension ring, you can use 18350 to 18650 batteries. I use all 3 sizes depending on the situation. my favorites are the 18350s, though, for the compact size...

 

[stevegmu]

You may also want to order battery boxes for the batteries...

 

[roxynoodle]

You may also want to order battery boxes for the batteries...

Yes, definitely. I forgot that .

 

[roxynoodle]

If I'm telling you things you already know, ignore me. You want to store your batteries in the plastic cases. And if you take batteries with you, keep them in the cases. Never put loose batteries in your purse or pocket. If they contact any metal, they can short and go into thermal runaway. Its a very dangerous situation that can cause serious injury to you and others.