thinking about getting a squonker aka Reos/Woodvil

[kkay59]

Okay some of y'all might know me, most probably do not. PapawBrett has been raving about squonking, and now I am very interested. I am into flavor, not cloud chasing. I have not sub-ohmed, but I might in the future. If I do a .5 would probably be the very lowest I would even try. I already have AW 18650 2000 mah batteries. I also have Samsung 25R, and a couple of Sony VTC4's. So I am good to go on batteries, and a charger.

Maybe you all can help me decide on what I really need. I only do rebuildables now. I like tanks, and drippers. I know that to use the Reos I would need to get a bottom feeder of some sort. Papaw told me the RM2 is really good. He also said I might get a deal on the classifieds. I had thought a Rogue, and Derringer would be what I would squonk with. So those 3 are probably the top bottom feeders I would want for the Reo. I don't know anybody else who vapes, much less rebuilds, who live locally. I certainly cannot try out somebody's Reo. So normally I vape between 1-1.8 ohms. It just depends on the hardware. I think my favorite ohms are 1.2-1.5.... Money is a huge issue for me. So this would be a big purchase. I would hate to make such a big purchase, and not like it. I know I could sell it later, if necessary. I like having several flavors at my fingertips. I probably like tanks ever so slightly more than drippers. (probably only because I tend to chain vape at times, making dripping more tedious) I know I will have to use 18650. So I am not quite sure if I need the Grand, or the LP Grand. I have also looked at the SL Grand, in both styles. The SL Grand would be ideal for me, but I am wondering if my cat might knock it over, because of all the holes in it. I do not leave juice around. But I do keep tanks and drippers on my computer desk. I always go in the other room to actually add more juice, which is a pain. I do this so I will have more light, and keep the juice away from the cat. I also have a dog. She is easily big enough to knock stuff over, but I don't let her roam unattended yet, as she is still a puppy. If I leave, she has to stay in the crate. Because of the pets, I am thinking the SL might not be a good idea.

What is the difference between the hammered Reo, and the tumbled? I also like the dark anodized better than the wrinkled Reo. I love the look of wood, but I think the Woodvil may be more money. I am open to buying used, or blemished. But the mod I choose must be as near mint, as possible. (I have a bit of OCD, so scratches and something not right just bugs me )


So if anyone has thoughts on this, please help me out. I would sure appreciate it. I want to know what I will need, so if a deal comes up, I can jump on the deal, and not get something that won't meet my needs, or price. Actually I am crazy for even think about getting a mod right now. I have spent a fortune already. I stopped smoking the end of Oct. I started vaping 3 days after I quit smoking. Smoking wasn't a hobby. I didn't think vaping would be either. I didn't even know what a rebuildable was, until I came to ECF. I just knew it would be too much trouble. Now I have jumped in with both feet. I know what I like, except for the squonking issue.

 

[PapawBrett]

If you are vaping 1.0 to 1.8 Ohms, the Grand and RM2 would fill those requirements. And, as I said before, I have an extra RM2 you are more than welcome to should you choose the Grand over the LP Grand.
Contact Rob (Support @ reosmods.com) about your situation, he might be able to help.
Hammertone is a 'Raised Relief' paint finish, tumbled is just what it says - tumbled aluminum.
Others should be along shortly to help.

 

[rudy4653]

Okay some of y'all might know me, most probably do not. PapawBrett has been raving about squonking, and now I am very interested. I am into flavor, not cloud chasing. I have not sub-ohmed, but I might in the future. If I do a .5 would probably be the very lowest I would even try. I already have AW 18650 2000 mah batteries. I also have Samsung 25R, and a couple of Sony VTC4's. So I am good to go on batteries, and a charger.

Maybe you all can help me decide on what I really need. I only do rebuildables now. I like tanks, and drippers. I know that to use the Reos I would need to get a bottom feeder of some sort. Papaw told me the RM2 is really good. He also said I might get a deal on the classifieds. I had thought a Rogue, and Derringer would be what I would squonk with. So those 3 are probably the top bottom feeders I would want for the Reo. I don't know anybody else who vapes, much less rebuilds, who live locally. I certainly cannot try out somebody's Reo. So normally I vape between 1-1.8 ohms. It just depends on the hardware. I think my favorite ohms are 1.2-1.5.... Money is a huge issue for me. So this would be a big purchase. I would hate to make such a big purchase, and not like it. I know I could sell it later, if necessary. I like having several flavors at my fingertips. I probably like tanks ever so slightly more than drippers. (probably only because I tend to chain vape at times, making dripping more tedious) I know I will have to use 18650. So I am not quite sure if I need the Grand, or the LP Grand. I have also looked at the SL Grand, in both styles. The SL Grand would be ideal for me, but I am wondering if my cat might knock it over, because of all the holes in it. I do not leave juice around. But I do keep tanks and drippers on my computer desk. I always go in the other room to actually add more juice, which is a pain. I do this so I will have more light, and keep the juice away from the cat. I also have a dog. She is easily big enough to knock stuff over, but I don't let her roam unattended yet, as she is still a puppy. If I leave, she has to stay in the crate. Because of the pets, I am thinking the SL might not be a good idea.

What is the difference between the hammered Reo, and the tumbled? I also like the dark anodized better than the wrinkled Reo. I love the look of wood, but I think the Woodvil may be more money. I am open to buying used, or blemished. But the mod I choose must be as near mint, as possible. (I have a bit of OCD, so scratches and something not right just bugs me )


So if anyone has thoughts on this, please help me out. I would sure appreciate it. I want to know what I will need, so if a deal comes up, I can jump on the deal, and not get something that won't meet my needs, or price. Actually I am crazy for even think about getting a mod right now. I have spent a fortune already. I stopped smoking the end of Oct. I started vaping 3 days after I quit smoking. Smoking wasn't a hobby. I didn't think vaping would be either. I didn't even know what a rebuildable was, until I came to ECF. I just knew it would be too much trouble. Now I have jumped in with both feet. I know what I like, except for the squonking issue.

I would go with LP Grand. Gives you more options for atties. You will be limited to only smaller atties with standard. Hammered has texture Tumbled & Anodized have a very smooth feel in your hand. TRA won't show scratches and dings if dropped as much as colored. I'm not a big fan of SL as I would imagine a lot of dust and dirt ( and cat hair) would get inside, just my opinion of course!
You can't go wrong with a REO! Good luck in your search.

 

[Rickajho]

Welp, a lot of what you are mentioning is about aesthetics - wood versus metal, SL versus not... So you are on your own kiddo on sorting that part out. Lot's of options there you have to decide on.

As far as low profile (LP) versus regular profile... LP will fit just about any atty you want to consider because of the catch cup being milled almost flat to the 510 connector. Regular profile is going to be limited to smaller diameter RDA's ( < 14 mm) because they have to fit down into the deep catch cup. For the attys Rob sells that limits you to the RM2 or the RM3. If you are curious the "chart 'o attys" with all the size and other information is here. ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hysical-comparison-chart-rm2-rm3-rm4-rm5.html

The other thing to keep in mind is if you think you may want to use stock cartos or non rebuildable 306 or 510 attys the deeper catch cup on a standard Grand is an advantage. People still do that - which is why Rob still sells them. So even with a standard profile Grand you have options: cartos, attys or about a half dozen RDA's that will fit.

Deals can be found in the classifieds on pristine Reos or real beaters. You just have to pay attention and pounce if you find something you like.

 

[PapawBrett]

Just make sure whatever RBA you choose is a Bottom Feed (BF) RBA..... That's the whole idea behind a Bottom Feed Mod like Reos.

 

[nerak]

The Grand gets my vote over the Woodvil for your first REO. With the Grand you have durability and a PV that will stand up to drops, falls, and pets! Having the batteries and charger will cut the cost of starting to vape the REO way! If light scratches bother you then you might feel better buying new. The blemished will have a flaw. Most can't locate it, but it is there somewhere! It is not stated on site where or what the flaw is.
Check out this thread for pics of the different finishes and lots of pics of the insides of REO's. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/357012-photos-reo-descriptions-comparisons-more.html

 

[Train2]

For a Rogue or Derringer or most popular 22mm atomizers, you need an LP Grand.
So to try an RM2, you'd need an "LP RM2" - but if you like big air lung hits, that might not be the atomizer for you...

I'll leave others to answer other questions!!

But you'll like the REO - it's dripper performance without having to drip!

 

[kkay59]

Thank you all so far. Very good info. So after reading this, I know that Rudy reminded me something I had forgotten about...cat hair. The cat hair will catch on the SL, and then to my bottle, and no telling what else. So the SL is definitely a no go. Great comments so far, I sure do appreciate it!!!

 

[nerak]

Check these out too:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/660643-thinking-taking-plunge.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/661808-best-reomizer-version.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/658788-going-order-my-reo-what-else-do-i-need.html

 

[PapawBrett]

I am just curious : When rebuilding, do smaller RBA's present a problem ? Some of the smaller ones can be difficult for old farts like me....

Not that it would present a problem to a fair young maiden, like yourself, right ?

 

[Rickajho]

Thank you all so far. Very good info. So after reading this, I know that Rudy reminded me something I had forgotten about...cat hair. The cat hair will catch on the SL, and then to my bottle, and no telling what else. So the SL is definitely a no go. Great comments so far, I sure do appreciate it!!!

I see no problem here. You just... wash it. All mechanical - give it a bath. (Or buy a better kitty brush. ) Seriously - to clean a metal Reo you just rinse it under water & let dry. Couldn't be easier.

Or... split the difference. You can get a solid body Reo combined with an SL door. (Ok - probably not helping. Gonna go. lol)

 

[drjitterbomb]

I don't find that much of a difference. Smaller size, smaller wire, and higher ohms. The little attys taste funky with hot, low gauge wire at least to me.

 

[Rickajho]

Couppla other points about finishes & whatnot:

Getting a Woodvil is an event and you have to commit to the challenge. Rob only produces them in batches - they aren't available on the site on an ongoing basis. We are nearing the finishing of the batch he is working on now and once they are sold and gone... no idea when the next batch will come up for sale. To give you an idea of the pacing: The previous Woodvil sale was in February 2014, the majority of the Grand Woodvils were sold out in three hours and the rest were gone by the next day. If you don't buy from this years offer it may be a long time before the next batch comes up. Watch this thread for notice of the sale date. ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dates-sales-information-most-recent-info.html and/or pay attention to the chatter in Reoville once it's announced.

Woodvil's do show up in the Classifieds but not too frequently and they sell fast - some times within minutes of being posted.

Tumbled is bare aluminum. If finish scratches bug you this might be a best choice since it's least likely to show scratches or dings.

Both hammertone and wrinkle are applied paint processes. They add texture but perhaps not as much as some people think when looking at the photos. It comes down to: It's a look and people either love 'em or hate 'em. (I'm in the 'love' boat, so to speak.)

 

[Filthy-Beast]

kk,

If you're still on fence I'd be happy to loan you one of my Grands to play with for a while

 

[dbrandt01]

Not sure about RM2, but I know super_x_drifter loves the rogue in his latest video. With the cat issues I'd say SL wouldn't be smart to do. No worries on it being knocked over, we know Reo's can take a beating and be fine.

If interested, as I understand money being an issue thing all too much. I'm a college student so the majority of my money goes to that, my car or spoiling my girlfriend with handbags and jewelry. I can work out a deal where you can borrow my backup Reo for a few weeks or however long you need if the OCD part doesn't freakout over seeing it just to see if you like the squonking aspect of things. It's an LP Grand, not SL. Wouldn't really want to part with the atty I got, Odin's are the only 2 atty's I have and my favorite.

It's the silver one in my avatar, but the door on it is SL, I have 2 doors that are not SL that I would include. If you like it, keep it, if not, send it back.

**Note to mods** this is not an attempt to sell it just looking to help a future Reonaut.

 

[penguiness]

Another thing to consider is since you are on a budget, is making the most of your money. If you get the standard Grand and decide you want to use a Derringer or other similar atty you would either need to send your Reo in to have the catch cup milled to LP size, or buy another Reo (in LP). If you spend a bit extra now to buy the LP, you won't have that to deal with later. You can use any bottom fed atty you want. If you purchase a few extra bottles, you can fill them up all at once and just swap them out when emptied. That would save you time in the other room and give you the ability to change flavors easier by just swapping out the bottle, putting the cap on the other bottle.

Your AW2000 batteries will be fine but for safety I would wait to drop your ohms too low when using those. This is not a concern with the Samsung or VTC4's that you already own.

Woodvils are more expensive and since you are worried about the animals knocking your mods over, I recommend you stick with the metal Grand LP for now. They are very durable and can handle being knocked over. Your only concern would be the finish (other than the TRA) getting chipped. If that is not something that would bother you (it would not bother many of us) then you should get whatever finish is most pleasing to you. Another option is to get a wrap that is a design and color you like (J-wrap) which not only gives you design options, but serves to help protect the finish on your Reo. Again, this is something that can wait until later.

 

[redeyedancer]

Welcome to the forum kkay59

 

[kkay59]

Papaw, I guess it would depend on the dripper. I don't have a tiny tank, so I can't say on that. The smallest dripper I have is the Derringer clone. I have no problems building it at all. It is a little tiny, and it is time consuming to build in dual coil. I tried it both ways, and like it both ways. I usually prefer a single coil, because it is easier, and then I can see the juice too. Squonking will be a skill I'd have to learn. I like seeing my levels. That is probably the thing that might bug me more. (can't see the level) But I could do as you said, and see how that works. I have to use magnification to do a build anyway, as my eyesight is not good. If the build isn't too complicated, it shouldn't be a problem. I am not doing any fancy coil work, too much time, and trouble.

Yes, that video on the Rogue from Super_X_Drifter is what made me want one. So at this point, it looks like I should get an LP Reo Grand. The only reason I mentioned the cat, is because she could paw at it, and get the claws stuck on the openings, and pull it over. The desk is very small, and she never bothers with it. But I don't want to tempt her. She likes laying on my lap, when I am on the computer. I don't like that, unless I am watching a movie. But she is insistent. I can put her off my lap several times. Then she comes stalking back, trying to get on my lap, without me noticing. She has been successful at that, and that is why she keeps trying. She is actually my son's cat. (he says she isn't) I had my cat, and my daughter's cat here. She moved out, and never took her old cat. That is the one that sheds. Well somebody dropped off this kitten, or she was wild. I tend to think she was wild. We ended up keeping her. She took to my son. But then he went in the Army. Now she has given up on him, and taken me over. My cat died of liver disease a little over a year ago. It doesn't look like my daughter is going to get her cat. Cat hair just blows around in here at times. My puppy is almost 8 months old. She is shedding her winter coat right now. So hair is a problem. I have been brushing them all. Yes, I could just rinse off the doors etc.. I think I should get a LP Reo Grand, and then later, if I want get a couple of SL doors. That way if I like them fine, if not, I still have a full mod, either way.

I am going to look at some of the links provided, and photos. I was just overwhelmed at all the offers of help here, and even letting me borrow your gear! Now that was a shock. At first I thought, wow that sounds great. But then I thought, what if it gets stolen, or lost? Then I would have to pay for it. So, even though the offers were just so very very kind, and thoughtful, I better not accept the offers on that.

The LP RM2 would be something to think about. I'd rather do that, than try to get something worked on, to make it run. I know I'd like a Rogue, or Derringer...both in time. Some things I can do on my own. Making a bottom feeder from an rda is out of my league I am afraid. My hands tend to shake, and that would be a problem. Sometimes they aren't too bad, other times they are worse. So I would also have to buy that, which would further complicate things, financially. I have I think 3 AW 18650, and the EFest purple (2)...those are the only button tops. The Efest I got for the Panzer mod. But I am not buying those ever again.

I am just curious : When rebuilding, do smaller RBA's present a problem ? Some of the smaller ones can be difficult for old farts like me....

Not that it would present a problem to a fair young maiden, like yourself, right ?

 

[dbrandt01]

I have a lab/bull dog, so I can relate to shedding to an extent and stuff being destroyed. He's broke 2 iPhones I had over time haha and an otterbox is no match for dogs Squonking isn't too bad. Usually a 2 second squonk and my cotton is good when the bottle is full then a little bit longer as the bottle goes down. My girlfriend is a vet tech and I know we'll have a ton of animals when we get our own place together. At least 6 dogs, a couple courses, she has rabbits, she wants a couple cats. Will be a house full.

As far as if it gets stolen or not is fine in my offer. I'm not expecting any money at all regardless of this offer. I've been graciously given a mod from Mrs. JC Okie to get my dad into vaping. I'm perfectly okay with helping someone on this forum that would need a Reo. You sound like a perfect person for it. As far as I'm concerned mine was just washed earlier like I do each week. If you want it let me know, I can send it out tomorrow. I can include three bottles and 2 will have caps so they can be filled up all the time. As long as you can get an atty for it. I bought it used and it was green, but stripped down to TRA so there is still some green on it. I took some pictures for you. I bought it from a guy on this forum, he might see this, his name RGLP4LYFE on here. I have a couple other pictures if this is something you want.

 

[Mrs C]

kkay since you already rebuild I'm betting you would take to a Reo like a cat on a red dot.

As for seeing the level there are a few tricks for that. Most common you pull your drip tip off and look down in the atty until you get used to how long you need to press on the bottle to soak your wick. It won't take but a few peeks at the begining, then the middle and near the bottom of the bottle to get familiar with "the how to".

You can see the juice level in your bottle through the squonk hole so you know when you are getting close to needing a refill.