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skoony

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the other day i made an off hand post referring to vaping as glorified aroma therapy.
just a little attempt at humor.
then because i have too much free time on my hands i googled"is aromatherapy dangerous"
i know,i know,big mistake.
http://www.naturesgift.com/warnings.htm
and then there is this page.the author laments the same kind of problems we that us vapors
are having.
Aromatherapy-dangers and undesired effects of essential oils
the one page even points out what oils are safe for children.
so here is something which demonstrably could cause more harm than vaping,but left alone
to its own devices.its advant garde,new age, and acceptable in today's liberal society despite
its inherent dangers.
how come they wont give us some of that consideration?
is it just me,or is this society only to tolerate the liberal point of view and
completely ban or outlaw every thing that isn't?
the demonetization of vaping.
doctors wanting to make being a republican a mental disorder.
law professors wanting to make it a criminal offence to be a climate denier.
the democratically controlled Minnesota government passes a anti-bullying bill with one hand,
and shoves their moral,religious,and political beliefs down our throats with the other.
its a wonder any of us can keep a modicum of sanity.
its getting to the point i would p**s on a spark plug if i thought it would help.
well theres my rant for today.
i'm going to go have a vape and a cup of joe.
thanks for your time.
:2c:
regards
mike
 

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Whoa there...

Aroma therapy uses essential oils - which aren't miscible with PG or VG. Smell nice, but aren't really meant for inhalation the way we inhale while vaping. Flavourings ( the stuff used in making liquids ) aren't oil-based. I fact, most of the flavours use PG as carrier.
They emit an aroma alright, but that doesn't make them the same a aromas. Base flavour comes from the tongue ( sour,sweet,bitte,etc..), the rest is sensed by the receptors in the nasal cavitiy - regardless if its flavour, aroma, or stale beer...
Lumping flavours and aromas together is over-simplifying it.
May suit the ignarant public, but not me...
 

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I have actually tried some juice I got off ebay that is supposed to be aromatherapy based. It is no nic, mint, rosemary, herbal etc. and vaping it is supposed to promote relaxation. It is an interesting concept for sure.

I use cig a likes, so I keep a cart filled with it and just use it from time to time. The juice was very thick and took quite a while to settle in the cart and become vapable, I suspect a high vg content. Once it settled though, it is a nice vape, very mild, smooth, and well....relaxing I suppose.
 

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Aroma therapy like diffuser sticks also has to have a carrier which isn't natural in most cases. Just because the oils are essential doesn't mean the carriers are. I make candles and other scented products and most times even when these are said to be pure and natural there are chemicals in them. Soy candles are a great example of that, many companies add a small percentage of other waxes to make the candles look smoother and creamier. I never claim all natural on my products.
 

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Whoa there...

Aroma therapy uses essential oils - which aren't miscible with PG or VG. Smell nice, but aren't really meant for inhalation the way we inhale while vaping. Flavourings ( the stuff used in making liquids ) aren't oil-based. I fact, most of the flavours use PG as carrier.
They emit an aroma alright, but that doesn't make them the same a aromas. Base flavour comes from the tongue ( sour,sweet,bitte,etc..), the rest is sensed by the receptors in the nasal cavitiy - regardless if its flavour, aroma, or stale beer...
Lumping flavours and aromas together is over-simplifying it.
May suit the ignarant public, but not me...
i was trying to keep it simple and diametric to make my point.
regards
mike
 

bluecat

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Whoa there...

Aroma therapy uses essential oils - which aren't miscible with PG or VG. Smell nice, but aren't really meant for inhalation the way we inhale while vaping. Flavourings ( the stuff used in making liquids ) aren't oil-based. I fact, most of the flavours use PG as carrier.
They emit an aroma alright, but that doesn't make them the same a aromas. Base flavour comes from the tongue ( sour,sweet,bitte,etc..), the rest is sensed by the receptors in the nasal cavitiy - regardless if its flavour, aroma, or stale beer...
Lumping flavours and aromas together is over-simplifying it.
May suit the ignarant public, but not me...

There are e liquids out there with flavorings based on oils. I personally do not use it but some may. I believe Lorann or something like that sells it.
 

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Aroma therapy like diffuser sticks also has to have a carrier which isn't natural in most cases. Just because the oils are essential doesn't mean the carriers are.
Any decent aromatherapist uses pure oils and dilutes them with natural oils. The difference is the price -- you'll know when you've bought a bottle of grade 1 rose absolute, ouch.

Do not use oils in an e-cig. Inhaling oil is bad for you. In aromatherapy you do not inhale the oil as a vapour. In fact it is mostly, if at all, absorbed through the skin. The name is a misnomer.
 
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how come they wont give us some of that consideration?
because big tobacco

is it just me,or is this society only to tolerate the liberal point of view and completely ban or outlaw every thing that isn't?

No it has nothing whatsoever to do with political bee ess. Why are people so quick to jump immediately to political pigeonholing as the reason for everything? bleah. No.

This is about money and business - not political outlook or 'feelings'. E-cigs and vaping is a HUGE threat to big tobacco so they will do ANYTHING to discredit and demonize it .... they will prepare all kinds of fancy charts and 'studies' that are complete lies, then make SURE "their" p.o.v. is (ahem) 'reported' as (so-called) 'news'.

Aromatherapy, on the other hand, does not affect the tobacco lobby in any way, as it's a completely different target market. People who would typically be interested in aromatherapy are likely to be what others call "granola's", or "hippies", into natural living and health... less likely to be smokers, and therefore no threat to tobacco sales, so it's left alone.

E-cigs and vaping, on the other hand - is really starting to pick up in a HUGE way - millions and millions of people either have, or will become, non smokers because of it, and that is a serious and real threat to big tobacco. So they will be ruthless in attempting to stamp it out.
 
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