This kind of e-liquid consumption...

[SteveS45]

See my earlier post. The coil in that example would burn at 9w.

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I can't burn a coil with 9W it won't even get Hot.

 

[KenD]

I can't burn a coil with 9W it won't even get Hot.

Try building a .5Ω coil with 30ga or higher ss316l. You'll see that your normal settings for the .5Ω coils you use are way too high.

In fact, a 1Ω coil using the same wire requires more power. Coil mass.

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[SteveS45]

@KenD nothing personal but I disagree with this and I actually don't want to debate you on it. Right now I am firing a .15Ω at 35W and pounding down the e-liquid at about an ML an hour. But when I switch to another mod this one uses NONE at all.

 

[KenD]

@KenD nothing personal but I disagree with this and I actually don't want to debate you on it. Right now I am firing a .15Ω at 35W and pounding down the e-Liquid at about an ML an hour. But when I switch to another MOD this one uses NONE at all.

Check steam-engine. It'll give you the numbers.

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[SteveS45]

I really don't care buddy! The only thing I am saying is that the more you vape the e-Liquid you use. Please find someone else who would like to debate this with you.

 

[KenD]

In fact, I'll post screenshots here:

Look at the numbers for heat flux.

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[KenD]

I really don't care buddy! The only thing I am saying is that the more you vape the e-Liquid you use. Please find someone else who would like to debate this with you.

Then don't start a debate. I care about the correct information. But I've said what I had to say and proven my point. On with the scheduled programming.

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[SteveS45]

 

[SteveS45]

Here is a .15Ω coil being fired at 35W to break it in.

And I am not debating anything with you Ken you are the one who is debating.

 

[Two_Bears]

3.5 ml a day ain't rippin' its tootling Its ok I do 2-3ml a day 18 to 36 mg I call it cowboy vapin'. Ok ok so I'm a tootle puffer it's still good

Hey. I'm on a Kayfun lite plus V2 using a .8 ohm coil at 7.5-10 watts.

To use 3.5 ml a day at that resistance and power level is rippinv it.

 

[Two_Bears]

Earlier smoking habits don't really correspond to the nic amount and liquid consumed. It's not necessarily the nicotine that was the addictive part for some individuals, and the nic from vaping is absorbed differently. For my own part I could pretty much go to 0 nic, but I like some throat hit (and I'd anyway include some nic due to the potential health effects).

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If you want throat hit raise the PG RATIO.

 

[Two_Bears]

I doubt you would get any vapor out of it at 9 watts

Agree completely

 

[mongo74]

I'm the same, and I've raised PG ratios to the point where my liquid was so serous, it'd seep right through coils and flood them. I do believe it's the oxidation process of nicotine in e-liquid that causes that lovely throat hit that, while PG may deliver something similar, it just isn't the same.

 

[Str8vision]

0.4 ohm dual coils @ 50 watts I go though around 8ml a day so I guess I'm actually below average consumption.

 

[kiba]

I consider that to be too much, but who knows, personally I don't have time to vape that much.... actually I thought I vaped a lot, since I do take quite a few smoke breaks, and do it pretty much constantly on the ride to work or at home in front of my gaming rig, but I only go through about 5-6mg's.

I go by what farsalinos says, the "95% safer" thing is tootle puffing only, not direct lung or restricted lung like how a lot of people end up vaping (including me) and not at high quantities. Imo, if anything is found to be harmful, it's most likely going to be in the flavorings, I love a tasty juice as much as the next guy but most commercial juices are loaded with sucralose, various other chemicals and any that use FW's flavorings have high fructose corn syrup and other sugars that are known to cause toxins and carcinogens.

Point is, if you're worried about all that crap, just don't vape, it's easy enough to quit... if not, at least it's probably less harmful than smoking.

 

[SteveS45]

@kiba that is an interesting piece of info about FW flavors and the sugars.

 

[David Wolf]

Well, you could wrap a .5 ohm coil with 30ga ss316l (1.5mm id, 4/5 wraps) that would be too hot at 9w and quite hot at 8w. Not saying that many would, but it highlights the fact that power and surface area is what we should be focusing on, not resistance. It annoys me when people talk about subohming without mentioning the other (more relevant) variables, and it may confuse new vapers by not giving them the relevant information.

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Well there you have a high resistance coil on a 0.5 ohm coil that's cheating'

 

[David Wolf]

In fact, I'll post screenshots here:

Look at the numbers for heat flux.

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Who vapes a 30 gauge 1.5 mm diameter coil at 5 wraps? Not a reasonable example to me. Most are using 26 gauge or smaller with larger diameter and high power for a .5 ohm coil.

 

[Two_Bears]

Who vapes a 30 gauge 1.5 mm diameter coil? Not a reasonable example to me. Most are using 26 gauge or smaller with larger diameter and high power for a .5 ohm coil.

All my coils are either 2 or 2.5 mm

 

[David Wolf]

All my coils are either 2 or 2.5 mm

Same here when I make coils. I bought some 3mm 1.8 ohm prewound spaced coils to try in my SXK KAyfun Mini and they did well too. I will say my Myjet pod coils are really small, maybe 1.5 mm, but they are over 1.3 ohms.