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Alarmist 'reporting' sells advertising space. No one wants to hear about the nice old lady that bakes cookies, unless she is chopping people up and putting them into the cookies. They tried 'nice' news broadcasts and they were a dismal failure. <shrugs> Good luck and have fun!
The "expert" quoted in this article shows his ignorance with this statement (among others!):
It isn't heat that creates freebase nicotine, it's the ammonia added to tobacco cigarettes that does that, and there is *no* ammonia in e-liquid! And this from a "pulmonary expert"?* Evidently what the "expert" is expert in is regurgitating ANTZ propaganda.
*This guy's title is "Doctor," so I presume he earned either a PhD or an MD. Good grief! The highest degree I have is a bachelor of arts in language studies, and I know more science than he does! I despair....
It isn't heat that creates freebase nicotine, it's the ammonia added to tobacco cigarettes that does that, and there is *no* ammonia in e-liquid! And this from a "pulmonary expert"?* Evidently what the "expert" is expert in is regurgitating ANTZ propaganda.
*This guy's title is "Doctor," so I presume he earned either a PhD or an MD. Good grief! The highest degree I have is a bachelor of arts in language studies, and I know more science than he does! I despair....
The "expert" quoted in this article shows his ignorance with this statement (among others!):
It isn't heat that creates freebase nicotine, it's the ammonia added to tobacco cigarettes that does that, and there is *no* ammonia in e-liquid! And this from a "pulmonary expert"?* Evidently what the "expert" is expert in is regurgitating ANTZ propaganda.
*This guy's title is "Doctor," so I presume he earned either a PhD or an MD. Good grief! The highest degree I have is a bachelor of arts in language studies, and I know more science than he does! I despair....
Aaaaaand vape !
The "expert" quoted in this article shows his ignorance with this statement (among others!):
It isn't heat that creates freebase nicotine, it's the ammonia added to tobacco cigarettes that does that, and there is *no* ammonia in e-liquid! And this from a "pulmonary expert"?* Evidently what the "expert" is expert in is regurgitating ANTZ propaganda.
*This guy's title is "Doctor," so I presume he earned either a PhD or an MD. Good grief! The highest degree I have is a bachelor of arts in language studies, and I know more science than he does! I despair....
Hate to say it, but as I've said before, all nicotine in eliquids is in the free-base form. The other form of nicotine is its salt form, which is more prevalent in natural tobacco. If nic was in its salt form in eliquids, we would not get much by vaporizing the liquid...salt form has a very high bp. The majority of vapor is absorbed orally and in the throat, with much less getting to the lungs usually.
Nicotine in NRTs is also in the free-base form, including the nicotine inhaler. Otherwise it would not release itself with inhalation. Seems this little piece of information would not have been beneficial to this perversion of truth. Instead they play on the emotional baggage of the term "freebase" knowing that many will correlate it with {SOMETHING BAD}.
The fact is, even though we do vape a solution of the freebase form, absorption is still quite slow compared to smoking, since it actually does not reach the lungs as much as it is orally absorbed. This has been measured by Dr F, published and presented at an EU cardiology conference. The FDA is fully aware of this, since I personally explained this to them in a listening session with AEMSA, and we gave them numerous articles demonstrating this.
If this Dr Leone expert in this Fox article actually believes what he is saying, then he knows nothing about ANY nicotine products on the market. I don't believe that could be true. I believe they have bought him and he has gone to the dark side of agenda science. There seems to be no way to leave comments, so my opinion is further supported. They even try to discredit Jenny McCarthy by saying she encourages parents not to vaccinate their kids. They think they are so clever.
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Hey Kurt- would you consider writing to the author what you just explained? I was going to do it, but you know the stuff backwards and forwards. On twitter, he at least showed some ability to listen. He might actually be persuaded to dig a little deeper.
I knew that our nic is a freebase form, but I agree that it was used for the negative connotations. Similar to the way the word 'laced' is used in many articles. Association with Jenny McCarthy was used the same way. Whether Jenny McCarthy advocates the use of ecigs has no bearing on their efficacy or safety. It's akin to saying Hitler used fluoride so fluoride must be bad (not that I'm in any way comparing Jenny to Hitler, understand).
I knew that our nic is a freebase form, but I agree that it was used for the negative connotations. Similar to the way the word 'laced' is used in many articles. Association with Jenny McCarthy was used the same way. Whether Jenny McCarthy advocates the use of ecigs has no bearing on their efficacy or safety. It's akin to saying Hitler used fluoride so fluoride must be bad (not that I'm in any way comparing Jenny to Hitler, understand).
This article seems to be floating around on a number of news sites, with comments possible. Fox evidently did not write this one. Here it is on Yahoo:
news. yahoo .com/e-cigarettes-just-more-smoke-mirrors-doctors-134400941.html]E-Cigarettes Just More Smoke and Mirrors, Doctors Say
Has almost 800 comments now, virtually all bashing the article. Few believe main stream news anymore. They look at the comments and make an informed decision. Frankly, I think articles like this create a lot more vapors than turn them away because of this, but those with an agenda cannot see this because they believe we are completely programmable. Its the only world view they know. None the less, pointing out the freebase thing would be a good idea. Will look into that.
And fluoride is bad. Very very bad. But that is another story...
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Maybe so, but fluoride's badness has nothing to do with whether Hitler used it. Which was the point I was trying to make. LOL.
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