Stephra - thank you - it is very well thought out I vote YES.
These issues never really occurred to me. I guess I'm either naive or too trusting?
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Stephra - thank you - it is very well thought out I vote YES.
These issues never really occurred to me. I guess I'm either naive or too trusting?
If anything doesn't work out or things get out of hand can you lock and disable or kill the thread?
How about some peanut butter cup, blackberry or irish cream? i'd definitely be willing to send some samples back to you if you'd like. Just let me know if there's a flavor you're interested in.
I think I have pb cup ordered. No blackberry or Irish cream. Sorry. I have some cafe mocha, coffee, kona coffee, and a mix of tobacco/chocolate/coffee. I have a lot of Tasty vapor stuff too. Did you try the Tiramisu Rob from GP had at the meet? Excellent coffee flavor. I have some fruit flavors ordered but I don't remember them all.
I have typed and deleted at least three responses to this. Part of me didn't want to cause a stir...but another part kept saying speak up. I won't be thanking Bill for anything....but I promise not to spit at him if I ever see him downtown. That's the best I can do.
In general, I feel we are making a big mistake allying with these anti-smoking organizations. Yes, they are backing us up in the fight to keep e-cigs legal, but you know what...they are going to run for cover or be outright enemies when the subject of applying tobacco product excise taxes to e-cigs come up. They will betray us, count on it. And since by then we will have already burned our bridges with the smoking community for allying with these guys in the first place...we will be out there flapping in the breeze...all by ourselves. Ripe for the rape....
Anti-smokers have addicted states to tobacco money and promoted discrimination and hatred. Bill's organization runs a website where people are "encouraged to report suspected violations" to the department of health when someone is seen smoking. He maintains a blackball list of establishments that people report...many of which are just small businesses where people try to make a living. I been to a few of those. Good people who don't deserve to be placed on a blackball list and just trying to get by.
Take a look: SmokeFree Restaurants of Southwestern Pennsylvania
That dispicable site should be taken down....
Hope I didn't ruffle too many feathers with this post. Not my intention...
Just goes to show that there are two sides to every coin. Making educated decisions can be so COMPLICATED.
ETA: I'd be sure if I were near there to patronize every last one of those businesses on the list.
ETA: I'd be sure if I were near there to patronize every last one of those businesses on the list.
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Yep....nothing simple about the tobacco world. Politics, egos, secrets and huge some sums of money.
Thanks maxx, no feathers ruffled here as you have valid points and that's the reason I was a little iffy on it as well..... Me personally I have issues with them too, taxes, taking away rights etc.. So all are extremely valid points... I just wish more of us out there would speak up and not take what we have for granted.
Glad it wasn't a point of contention... 
My heart is still with the smokers...and I still enjoy the occasional real puff just for spite. I am saddened when I go to a pro-smoker forums and see people bad-mouthing vapers for aligning themselves with anti-smokers. Quite frankly....they have good reason to bad-mouth us, sometimes.
Oh well....such is the way of things, I guess....
My heart is still with the smokers...and I still enjoy the occasional real puff just for spite. I am saddened when I go to a pro-smoker forums and see people bad-mouthing vapers for aligning themselves with anti-smokers. Quite frankly....they have good reason to bad-mouth us, sometimes.
Oh well....such is the way of things, I guess....
No, i'm sad to say i didn't get to try his Tiramisu. I heard his lemonade was delicious as well. I did get to try cinna-bun, vanilla, pillow mint and TAB, which were all awesome! In any case, i'd love to try some PB cup if you ever get bored with it...it was one of my faves from the samples. I should actually be receiving some new juices today from VB: triple cherry custom mix, irish cream/cinnamon/coffee custom mix, cinna-bomb(the whole reason i ordered), mountain mist, and hypnotic mist. If you'd like a sample of anything, i can try to find some sample bottles. Cheers!
I will throw some tiramasu in with the fish. pnut butter cup on order - I will throw some in also.
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