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Now let take a look at a company like Evolv they started out with a 20 watt PVD witch for the time when it came out it was significant as a advancement. The year or so later the made the DNA 30 with a good warranty again setting the standard for the industry that all other chip sets were judged by. The another year and the DNA 40 that had again with TC a very significant as a advancement in the safety of vaping that once again set the standard for the whole industry one again. The after they released the 40 TC chip they made the DNA 25 showing everyone that high wattage was not necessary and they could sell it for half the price and selling that for 35$ saying once again the key to good vapor is the technology not the wattage and provari released the P3 only going up 5 watts in the 3 years meanwhile the chinese companies just kept pumping out more higher wattage devices with not one single significant as a advancement other than unnecessary wattage over that year pump out all kind junk that never raised the bar in safety nor vapor quality and every month you got another 10 watts like it was a big deal so you should buy that piece of crap companies like cloupor released the T50 and told everyone it would upgradable firmware that they had no working firmware at the time of release but said it was coming big surprise then after folks bought that steaming pile of junk they said there would be no firmware upgrade so your big surprise was you just got shafted and to top it off the thing was a royal piece of junk that was a 3 time loser for my wife as it has broken 3 time since we got it for her. Scam big time
Now Pioneer4you was pumping a few modes that charger port that cooked your batteries and as of the IPV4 the charger was a royal piece royal piece of junk again Now with the Ipv4 it was the upgradeable firmware scam and instead of the firmware they promised we would see and at one point they were not going to release the firmware but sell it ans another middle well that got a raise out of folk they went nuts and complain enough they gave in and release the upgrade.

Mean time the chinese companies were still pumping one pile junk that was 10 was higher Ya get that 10 watts boys you got have that nothing as far as a significant advancement for the vapor no safety stuff no better vape and at the same time was still the best thing going but YiHI released the SX350J ok if you bought where someone else built it but the chip itself has nothing but a DOA warranty yep it lights up you all done warrenty over and smothered the chip with some black crap to this the chips set like it was a big deal that pretty bad when you how bad they about cloning so pretty much dunked it in gunk about cloning any you basically had to use the chip as is no options for switches or any layout changes and soon as you soldered the very first thing you warranty was null and void hope you check it Opps so build a mod with that chip pretty much sucked. Meanwhile I have sent chip back to steve at evolv with the screen tore off and just explained that to get the defective chip out the screen was glued in the DNA 30 Hanna Clone I was upgrading to the DNA 25 he said just try and get the chip out as best you can don't worry we know that happens all the time oh and by the way if you just tear the screen off during a install he will fix it for 10 buck and ships it back for free.
Steve has repaired or replace 5 boards for me without even asking for a receipt and most time he just sent me brand new chips for free when I got defect so it would cost about 3 bucks one time to get 3 chips replaced. So just why would a buy a YIHI chip that Hee Hee chip because there laughing there ... of ever time you bought that 50 cent chip for 75 bucks that had nothing but a doa warranty. I like that Chip it was nice, but the support and the backing on it was a joke! Too bad had they actually gave a damn about there customers I would have used that chip and built some mods as much I hate dealing with Chinese companies where the customer is always wrong . It was a nice chip for me no support no buy so that was useless!
Now again Evolv let all them clowns have there wattage war and in one fell swoop toast every one of them with the DNA 200 not only firmware upgradeable but completely software programmable and blow away every useless piece juch the chinese made the whole last year turn them all to dust with the safety and technology is so beyond anything these clowns made for a whole and sent them back to stoneage. It was so advanced it may the Yihi junk pile look like it was a cave man finding fie for the first time fire and evolv just build a space station on Mars the Yihi 75 Bucks the dna 200 80$ and made in the USA where folks actually get paid to work! LOL
Now really tell me again about the great crap the Chinese just keep pumping out that break every 1 to 2 months like they have a built in self destruct and you then get the pleasure of spending the next month write email and sending video and picture and proof purchase and some body part from your first born like I am right now stuck trying get my SMY tc 60 repaired for the 2nd time in 3 months I own that SMY pile. I have had use of it for about 2 weeks of 90 days if I am lucky today was the 15th day writing to Focalecigs and they are still waiting for a answer on what they should do about it

Yas that some really quality stuff there, they could have sent a carrier pigeon by now to the supplier. I told them what they needed to do. Forget your friggin supplier contact Lisa in the california main office to get the repairs approved then the will send me to Chad in in Ohio that runs the east coast repair center that how we did it last time. Every time she tells me she waiting for a response from the supplier I wish I reach thru the PC and snap her neck like a dry twig

Man since when was China ever know for anything but cheap knock off watches and now it cheap knock off vaping supplies. Get your 10$ rolex here *LOL*
 

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Two things. The first true 200w chip is from the US, the e-cigarette was invented in China.

I think you should get passed your hate for China. Frankly, it's offensive and comes across as bigoted. Not all of us come from the US, and ordering stuff from your part of the world isn't fraught with problems for the rest of us.

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No If I was making this up then I would be a bigot. I am just telling my experience in dealing with these companies and point it out that has been my dealing with the product, I have bought.I guess it different wherever you from but here we allowed speak about getting bad products, it called a review what I have done is give a review on my experience from my past purchases,there was no intention to offend, I was the one that got shafted getting poor quality items to the point I had to start building my own stuff just so my stuff was not breaking every other day and I am dealing with a company right now that doing every this I said Focalecig 15 day and can't even get then to tell where or what they will do to repair or replace my SMY TC 60 15 day and I still have no idea what they doing. that said I even told them how they had to do the last time and they still can't get it done

Is a Lie that that they clone everything that not nailed down? Yes you right they made a cute little thing that looked like a cig with a cut little light that glowed when you puffed on it But that a far cry from PVD's of today of today is not a Ecig. I don't own a ecig I have a PVD
 

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No If I was making this up then I would be a bigot. I am just telling my experience in dealing with these companies and point it out that has been my dealing with the product, I have bought.I guess it different wherever you from but here we allowed speak about getting bad products, it called a review what I have done is give a review on my experience from my past purchases,there was no intention to offend, I was the one that got shafted getting poor quality items to the point I had to start building my own stuff just so my stuff was not breaking every other day and I am dealing with a company right now that doing every this I said Focalecig 15 day and can't even get then to tell where or what they will do to repair or replace my SMY TC 60 15 day and I still have no idea what they doing. that said I even told them how they had to do the last time and they still can't get it done

Is a Lie that that they clone everything that not nailed down? Yes you right they made a cute little thing that looked like a cig with a cut little light that glowed when you puffed on it But that a far cry from PVD's of today of today is not a Ecig. I don't own a ecig I have a PVD

I don't hate China because they make lousy products I was the fool that kept going back for more and get junk time and time again. If I was smart I would have stopped buying that stuff a long time ago. I just feel like I have swindled way too many times and have lost so much money to faulty product from there. I don't hate china! I hate getting good money taken for bad items, that not hate. I may hate to lose my money and yes I am mad about it but you don't hate a whole country because of a bad retail experience. Man get real. Wow Ya since when does ...... off customer end a bigot.
How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot and you were buying thing from here and even after reading the reviews and forums about the product before you buy it and almost every single time it broke on you till you got so sick of it you learn how to build your own because you tired of losing good money

I still can't believe you called be a bigot for pointing out a losey shopping experience. I know nothing about China I don't even know anyone that chinese except at the chinese restaurant LOL .
To Me China is a big retail store and id it was store here I would say the same things
 
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"Now let take a look at a company like Evolv they started out with a 20 watt PVD witch for the time when it came out it was significant as a advancement. The year or so later the made the DNA 30 with a good warranty again setting the standard for the industry that all other chip sets were judged by. The another year and the DNA 40 that had again with TC a very significant as a advancement in the safety of vaping that once again set the standard for the whole industry one again. The after they released the 40 TC chip they made the DNA 25 showing everyone that high wattage was not necessary and they could sell it for half the price and selling that for 35$ saying once again the key to good vapor is the technology not the wattage and provari released the P3 only going up 5 watts in the 3 years meanwhile the chinese companies just kept pumping out more higher wattage devices with not one single significant as a advancement other than unnecessary wattage over that year pump out all kind junk that never raised the bar in safety nor vapor quality and every month you got another 10 watts like it was a big deal so you should buy that piece of crap companies like cloupor released the T50 and told everyone it would upgradable firmware that they had no working firmware at the time of release but said it was coming big surprise then after folks bought that steaming pile of junk they said there would be no firmware upgrade so your big surprise was you just got shafted and to top it off the thing was a royal piece of junk that was a 3 time loser for my wife as it has broken 3 time since we got it for her. Scam big time
Now Pioneer4you was pumping a few modes that charger port that cooked your batteries and as of the IPV4 the charger was a royal piece royal piece of junk again Now with the Ipv4 it was the upgradeable firmware scam and instead of the firmware they promised we would see and at one point they were not going to release the firmware but sell it ans another middle well that got a raise out of folk they went nuts and complain enough they gave in and release the upgrade.

Mean time the chinese companies were still pumping one pile junk that was 10 was higher Ya get that 10 watts boys you got have that nothing as far as a significant advancement for the vapor no safety stuff no better vape and at the same time was still the best thing going but YiHI released the SX350J ok if you bought where someone else built it but the chip itself has nothing but a DOA warranty yep it lights up you all done warrenty over and smothered the chip with some black crap to this the chips set like it was a big deal that pretty bad when you how bad they about cloning so pretty much dunked it in gunk about cloning any you basically had to use the chip as is no options for switches or any layout changes and soon as you soldered the very first thing you warranty was null and void hope you check it Opps so build a mod with that chip pretty much sucked. Meanwhile I have sent chip back to steve at evolv with the screen tore off and just explained that to get the defective chip out the screen was glued in the DNA 30 Hanna Clone I was upgrading to the DNA 25 he said just try and get the chip out as best you can don't worry we know that happens all the time oh and by the way if you just tear the screen off during a install he will fix it for 10 buck and ships it back for free.
Steve has repaired or replace 5 boards for me without even asking for a receipt and most time he just sent me brand new chips for free when I got defect so it would cost about 3 bucks one time to get 3 chips replaced. So just why would a buy a YIHI chip that Hee Hee chip because there laughing there ... of ever time you bought that 50 cent chip for 75 bucks that had nothing but a doa warranty. I like that Chip it was nice, but the support and the backing on it was a joke! Too bad had they actually gave a damn about there customers I would have used that chip and built some mods as much I hate dealing with Chinese companies where the customer is always wrong . It was a nice chip for me no support no buy so that was useless!
Now again Evolv let all them clowns have there wattage war and in one fell swoop toast every one of them with the DNA 200 not only firmware upgradeable but completely software programmable and blow away every useless piece juch the chinese made the whole last year turn them all to dust with the safety and technology is so beyond anything these clowns made for a whole and sent them back to stoneage. It was so advanced it may the Yihi junk pile look like it was a cave man finding fie for the first time fire and evolv just build a space station on Mars the Yihi 75 Bucks the dna 200 80$ and made in the USA where folks actually get paid to work! LOL
Now really tell me again about the great crap the Chinese just keep pumping out that break every 1 to 2 months like they have a built in self destruct and you then get the pleasure of spending the next month write email and sending video and picture and proof purchase and some body part from your first born like I am right now stuck trying get my SMY tc 60 repaired for the 2nd time in 3 months I own that SMY pile. I have had use of it for about 2 weeks of 90 days if I am lucky today was the 15th day writing to Focalecigs and they are still waiting for a answer on what they should do about it

Yas that some really quality stuff there, they could have sent a carrier pigeon by now to the supplier. I told them what they needed to do. Forget your friggin supplier contact Lisa in the california main office to get the repairs approved then the will send me to Chad in in Ohio that runs the east coast repair center that how we did it last time. Every time she tells me she waiting for a response from the supplier I wish I reach thru the PC and snap her neck like a dry twig

Man since when was China ever know for anything but cheap knock off watches and now it cheap knock off Vaping supplies. Get your 10$ rolex here *LOL*"


"No If I was making this up then I would be a bigot. I am just telling my experience in dealing with these companies and point it out that has been my dealing with the product, I have bought.I guess it different wherever you from but here we allowed speak about getting bad products, it called a review what I have done is give a review on my experience from my past purchases,there was no intention to offend, I was the one that got shafted getting poor quality items to the point I had to start building my own stuff just so my stuff was not breaking every other day and I am dealing with a company right now that doing every this I said Focalecig 15 day and can't even get then to tell where or what they will do to repair or replace my SMY TC 60 15 day and I still have no idea what they doing. that said I even told them how they had to do the last time and they still can't get it done

Is a Lie that that they clone everything that not nailed down? Yes you right they made a cute little thing that looked like a cig with a cut little light that glowed when you puffed on it But that a far cry from PVD's of today of today is not a Ecig. I don't own a ecig I have a PVD"


"I don't hate China because they make lousy products I was the fool that kept going back for more and get junk time and time again. If I was smart I would have stopped buying that stuff a long time ago. I just feel like I have swindled way too many times and have lost so much money to faulty product from there. I don't hate china! I hate getting good money taken for bad items, that not hate. I may hate to lose my money and yes I am mad about it but you don't hate a whole country because of a bad retail experience. Man get real. Wow Ya since when does ...... off customer end a bigot.
How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot and you were buying thing from here and even after reading the reviews and forums about the product before you buy it and almost every single time it broke on you till you got so sick of it you learn how to build your own because you tired of losing good money

I still can't believe you called be a bigot for pointing out a losey shopping experience. I know nothing about China I don't even know anyone that chinese except at the chinese restaurant LOL .
To Me China is a big retail store and id it was store here I would say the same things"


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So what's your Point?
 
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So... How 'bout that Titanium stuff.... Huh?

Ok Not sure what your asking that is Ti200 = Titanium I think that what your asking that is really what this post is supposed to be about but I kind drifted off the whole reason. They made it sound like being able to use Ti 200 Titanium was something special when it just when in fact it nothing that any TC unit can do. You can even use Ti 200 in non TC devices as well. There you need to be more careful careful with your build much more so but it can be done. it's not that your non TC device with have TC because you used Ti 200 Titanium wire you just gain the benefit of using a wire that is more efficient but be careful to start out low and move you wattage or voltage up a little at a time and take a look at your cotton too be sure you not getting any scorching Ti wire has some nice benefits but it also has one drawback you want to avoid heating the wire to red. That was why I said in early part of this post you can heat the wire with say lighter not any type of torch type as that is also why you have to be even careful with your build that on a regular not to get hotlegs that glows the wire red. But if you do glow the wire red for any reason I just heat it again and plunge the coil into cold water that help to remove the oxidation there is a chemical method to remove the oxidation Its just like silver would tarnish and you use silver polish to remove it.

Well I hope that helps. Just any time you're experimenting take a bit of extra caution
 

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I'm hoping he got a good night's rest and calms the hell down. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

YA I a bit better today My PTSD was kicking in yesterday and had not slept 2 days the other thing is I just had to go thru and I am still dealing with some warranty return and My SMY TC 60 the last one of 4 has been insane it's like 16 days now since I started trying to get this unit repaired or replaced and still waiting to hear back for the supplier. That is also how I discovered that you can You TI 200 on the DNA chips as 3 of the 4 returns where Ti 200 ready devices and I just thought I give it shot as I just finished the mod in the picture in a earlier part of this post. Focalecig just happens to chinese company and the device also come from there too so it got a bit bur under my saddle right now I really don't hate china it just I am disabled living off a very crappy disability check and 11/11/95 was the anniversary and been have bit a rough go of it so I seem to be very easily irritated.
Sorry guys this post was meant pass what I have learned not to start world war 3 and take out my frustration on who every got in my way.
I apologize to the group if I offended anyone it really was a bad hair day Opps sorry folks
 

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"Now let take a look at a company like Evolv they started out with a 20 watt PVD witch for the time when it came out it was significant as a advancement. The year or so later the made the DNA 30 with a good warranty again setting the standard for the industry that all other chip sets were judged by. The another year and the DNA 40 that had again with TC a very significant as a advancement in the safety of vaping that once again set the standard for the whole industry one again. The after they released the 40 TC chip they made the DNA 25 showing everyone that high wattage was not necessary and they could sell it for half the price and selling that for 35$ saying once again the key to good vapor is the technology not the wattage and provari released the P3 only going up 5 watts in the 3 years meanwhile the chinese companies just kept pumping out more higher wattage devices with not one single significant as a advancement other than unnecessary wattage over that year pump out all kind junk that never raised the bar in safety nor vapor quality and every month you got another 10 watts like it was a big deal so you should buy that piece of crap companies like cloupor released the T50 and told everyone it would upgradable firmware that they had no working firmware at the time of release but said it was coming big surprise then after folks bought that steaming pile of junk they said there would be no firmware upgrade so your big surprise was you just got shafted and to top it off the thing was a royal piece of junk that was a 3 time loser for my wife as it has broken 3 time since we got it for her. Scam big time
Now Pioneer4you was pumping a few modes that charger port that cooked your batteries and as of the IPV4 the charger was a royal piece royal piece of junk again Now with the Ipv4 it was the upgradeable firmware scam and instead of the firmware they promised we would see and at one point they were not going to release the firmware but sell it ans another middle well that got a raise out of folk they went nuts and complain enough they gave in and release the upgrade.

Mean time the chinese companies were still pumping one pile junk that was 10 was higher Ya get that 10 watts boys you got have that nothing as far as a significant advancement for the vapor no safety stuff no better vape and at the same time was still the best thing going but YiHI released the SX350J ok if you bought where someone else built it but the chip itself has nothing but a DOA warranty yep it lights up you all done warrenty over and smothered the chip with some black crap to this the chips set like it was a big deal that pretty bad when you how bad they about cloning so pretty much dunked it in gunk about cloning any you basically had to use the chip as is no options for switches or any layout changes and soon as you soldered the very first thing you warranty was null and void hope you check it Opps so build a mod with that chip pretty much sucked. Meanwhile I have sent chip back to steve at evolv with the screen tore off and just explained that to get the defective chip out the screen was glued in the DNA 30 Hanna Clone I was upgrading to the DNA 25 he said just try and get the chip out as best you can don't worry we know that happens all the time oh and by the way if you just tear the screen off during a install he will fix it for 10 buck and ships it back for free.
Steve has repaired or replace 5 boards for me without even asking for a receipt and most time he just sent me brand new chips for free when I got defect so it would cost about 3 bucks one time to get 3 chips replaced. So just why would a buy a YIHI chip that Hee Hee chip because there laughing there ... of ever time you bought that 50 cent chip for 75 bucks that had nothing but a doa warranty. I like that Chip it was nice, but the support and the backing on it was a joke! Too bad had they actually gave a damn about there customers I would have used that chip and built some mods as much I hate dealing with Chinese companies where the customer is always wrong . It was a nice chip for me no support no buy so that was useless!
Now again Evolv let all them clowns have there wattage war and in one fell swoop toast every one of them with the DNA 200 not only firmware upgradeable but completely software programmable and blow away every useless piece juch the chinese made the whole last year turn them all to dust with the safety and technology is so beyond anything these clowns made for a whole and sent them back to stoneage. It was so advanced it may the Yihi junk pile look like it was a cave man finding fie for the first time fire and evolv just build a space station on Mars the Yihi 75 Bucks the dna 200 80$ and made in the USA where folks actually get paid to work! LOL
Now really tell me again about the great crap the Chinese just keep pumping out that break every 1 to 2 months like they have a built in self destruct and you then get the pleasure of spending the next month write email and sending video and picture and proof purchase and some body part from your first born like I am right now stuck trying get my SMY tc 60 repaired for the 2nd time in 3 months I own that SMY pile. I have had use of it for about 2 weeks of 90 days if I am lucky today was the 15th day writing to Focalecigs and they are still waiting for a answer on what they should do about it

Yas that some really quality stuff there, they could have sent a carrier pigeon by now to the supplier. I told them what they needed to do. Forget your friggin supplier contact Lisa in the california main office to get the repairs approved then the will send me to Chad in in Ohio that runs the east coast repair center that how we did it last time. Every time she tells me she waiting for a response from the supplier I wish I reach thru the PC and snap her neck like a dry twig

Man since when was China ever know for anything but cheap knock off watches and now it cheap knock off Vaping supplies. Get your 10$ rolex here *LOL*"


"No If I was making this up then I would be a bigot. I am just telling my experience in dealing with these companies and point it out that has been my dealing with the product, I have bought.I guess it different wherever you from but here we allowed speak about getting bad products, it called a review what I have done is give a review on my experience from my past purchases,there was no intention to offend, I was the one that got shafted getting poor quality items to the point I had to start building my own stuff just so my stuff was not breaking every other day and I am dealing with a company right now that doing every this I said Focalecig 15 day and can't even get then to tell where or what they will do to repair or replace my SMY TC 60 15 day and I still have no idea what they doing. that said I even told them how they had to do the last time and they still can't get it done

Is a Lie that that they clone everything that not nailed down? Yes you right they made a cute little thing that looked like a cig with a cut little light that glowed when you puffed on it But that a far cry from PVD's of today of today is not a Ecig. I don't own a ecig I have a PVD"


"I don't hate China because they make lousy products I was the fool that kept going back for more and get junk time and time again. If I was smart I would have stopped buying that stuff a long time ago. I just feel like I have swindled way too many times and have lost so much money to faulty product from there. I don't hate china! I hate getting good money taken for bad items, that not hate. I may hate to lose my money and yes I am mad about it but you don't hate a whole country because of a bad retail experience. Man get real. Wow Ya since when does ...... off customer end a bigot.
How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot and you were buying thing from here and even after reading the reviews and forums about the product before you buy it and almost every single time it broke on you till you got so sick of it you learn how to build your own because you tired of losing good money

I still can't believe you called be a bigot for pointing out a losey shopping experience. I know nothing about China I don't even know anyone that chinese except at the chinese restaurant LOL .
To Me China is a big retail store and id it was store here I would say the same things"


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So what's your Point?
My response to being called a bigot and my opinion of how the Chinese do business and the fact that I feel like instead of putting the R&D to make something they either copy it (clone it ) and just hav not made any significant as a advancement to the vaping industry.

Any there warranties are terrible and even get thing RMA'ed seem to always be some long dragged out ordeal and the fact they are always so in a hurry to out the next new device and really there way nothing new or useful in that new release don't follow thru with thing like say this will be firmware upgradeable and then after they sold a bunch a units they don't have the upgrade instead they make a firmware upgrade paint a different color
The general lack of Quality control that brings to trying to get things warranted and they seem so clueless half the time even on how to do the warranty they are way to concern to pump out the next rather that making sure what Are making is remotely needed pushing model with insane wattages on unproven devices that going back the not putting in the research and development instead they clone someone else's hard work then just crank it up a few watts with making sure the modifications will actually work

Just plain having a bad shopping experience because the retailer does not even have the mean to get your defective models handled and so far what I have the ratio of working no defective items I always seem to end up with the defective ones.
Generally plain of really bad customer support and it seem they spend more time trying to get out of warranty by making the experience so terrible you give up and go away

Like read the post! I don't want to write twice and to top it off I was just generally in a ...... off state of mind and frustrated from dealing with Chinese retailer selling shoddy Chinese product and sent so far almost a month of writing emails just to get there cappy stuff replaced,
And it was just one of those day I blew a head gasket gasket and had a rant.
I hope that was enough of a answer because I really like to get my post back on track with just passing on the stuff I learned about telling folk not to sucked in and buy some crappy unit just to get a setting so maybe I can save someone from the crappy experience I just had for a feature they can get past and wait for something a bit more for there money. It basically they can get 95 % of that feature from the mod they have right now.
I don't know maybe save a few folks from really thinking they need that next 10 watts and just to get the setting for TI200 because chances are they will no more than get the the mod and end up trapped in the endless bottomless pit of trying to get it warrantied. And that if you live here in the States but a product from here at least that way you get the better product for their hard earned money

Ya I think that the basics I can tell you what it don't mean is that hate Chinese people or China I just hate the way to do business and push shoddy products and make you life a living hell to something replaced
So that the answer and that the last response about it this whole post is going to right in the crapper with drama. I rather be helping someone that want to try out using Ti200 on there existing mod that the reason i made the post
Rant off now if anyone want to talk about using TI200 on the PVD I would be glad to help
 

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Like read the post! I don't want to write twice

We should be so lucky. :rolleyes:
Your novelette length screeds are rambling and self-contradictory.


Rant off now if anyone want to talk about using TI200 on the PVD I would be glad to help

I'd like to know how to get you to stop using the designation "Ti200".
I see it as an error, no big deal... others may misread it and end up using Ni200 on their VW mods.
Please stop.
 

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That was my understanding.
So... "Ti200" still appears to be a misnomer.

See... Here's the Deal.

Nickel is an Element. An Element which is considered to be a "Metal".

But once One or More Metals are introduced with Nickel, the Resulting Solid Solution is said to be an "Metal Alloy". These Alloy are Identified by Various Numbering Systems.

These Numbering System give a way to Identify what the Metal Allow is made of. And to know How Much, but Also How Little, of Each Individual Metal should be present in the Metal Alloy.

But here is where it Gets Kinda Unusual.

It is Extremely Rare that Someone would want, for Everyday Use, a Metal Element in its Absolute Pure Form. What people want is the Properties that the "Other" Metals gave the Base Metal in a Metal Alloy. Things like Adding another Metal to give the New Alloy Better Strength than the Original Metal Element. Or to Improve Workability. Or perhaps, Corrosion Resistance.

For what TC people use Nickel 200 and Titanium Grade 1 for, people want Pure Nickel and or Pure Titanium. So one could consider the Type of Metal Alloy that people are Buying/Using as a Purity in Relation to a Pure Element of either Nickel or Titanium.

But this type of Thinking Doesn't work well when talking about other Metal Alloys in other Applications. Because 99.9% of the Time, we are not trying to Achieve a Pure Element. But are Seeking the Properties that these Other Metals give the New Metal Alloy.
 

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That was my understanding.
So... "Ti200" still appears to be a misnomer.
Titanium is a element just like Nickel. TI 200 has nothing to do with nickel think of it like this 1 is a peach tree and the other is maple tree they are both trees that all they have in common so, ti200 and nickel what they have in common is they both metal that it nothing more, it like gold and lead gold and lead have about as much in common.

Now the reason they went to TI200 was that about 25% of all people have a reaction to nickel so if your one of those folks that every bought that 20$ rolex that they cloned in china LOL and you got the rash from wearing it Nickel was not a very good first choice health wise but just remember if you ever had the hives or a rash from that cheap jewelry I would not use nickel ever
See the reason was that they went to TI 200 was all about possible health issues you see there are no known cases of the body rejecting or have any type of a reaction from Titanium that was why Titanium replaced surgical steel for all this pins and stuff they put in your leg when you bust it real bad well that was Titanium since the started using it for prosthetic devices back in the 70s right about the time they were done with the space program.
Hope that helps
 

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We should be so lucky. :rolleyes:
Your novelette length screeds are rambling and self-contradictory.




I'd like to know how to get you to stop using the designation "Ti200".
I see it as an error, no big deal... others may misread it and end up using Ni200 on their VW mods.
Please stop.


Sorry man really I did not want to go into it but I do ramble sometime. well of A lot a times but I mean it good most times. I try to shorten up stuff if it helps

I am not sure what your sayin it's like Ti200 is Ti200 and NI200 Ni200 if you look at it, it's just the first 2 letters of metal element with a 200 after it and what the 200 means really I never thought about other that that's what we use and what's common to buy and what's sold. in a lot posts many just use NI for nickel and TI for Titanium think that what they are on the periodic chart of elements
 
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See... Here's the Deal.

Nickel is an Element. An Element which is considered to be a "Metal".

But once One or More Metals are introduced with Nickel, the Resulting Solid Solution is said to be an "Metal Alloy". These Alloy are Identified by Various Numbering Systems.

These Numbering System give a way to Identify what the Metal Allow is made of. And to know How Much, but Also How Little, of Each Individual Metal should be present in the Metal Alloy.

But here is where it Gets Kinda Unusual.

It is Extremely Rare that Someone would want, for Everyday Use, a Metal Element in its Absolute Pure Form. What people want is the Properties that the "Other" Metals gave the Base Metal in a Metal Alloy. Things like Adding another Metal to give the New Alloy Better Strength than the Original Metal Element. Or to Improve Workability. Or perhaps, Corrosion Resistance.

For what TC people use Nickel 200 and Titanium Grade 1 for, people want Pure Nickel and or Pure Titanium. So one could consider the Type of Metal Alloy that people are Buying/Using as a Purity in Relation to a Pure Element of either Nickel or Titanium.

But this type of Thinking Doesn't work well when talking about other Metal Alloys in other Applications. Because 99.9% of the Time, we are not trying to Achieve a Pure Element. But are Seeking the Properties that these Other Metals give the New Metal Alloy.

Cheers good answer a bit antiseptic but good answer! writing is not my strong point my whole life work was stuff I did with my head and hands. but I try to do y best I can. build anything but ask me to write a story about whoops look out LOL

Oh 1 more thing I think in the case of the 200 added to the element TI for Titanium is not totally what most think of as a alloys because the amount of other metal in TI200 is almost nothing so ya more in this case purity more so than alloy but that a thought I am not Mr Science when it comes to metallurgy was know enough to know what filler rod when I was doing Tig welding or the right wire for Mig or what rods for stick welding
unlike say Stainless steel or Solder like Stainless steel the best grade has no iron in it or steel and it non magnetic a totally non ferrous metal so why call it stainless steel and I think the 200 is just the grade like 316 stainless Steel or 304 SS
 
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