Time Magazine Spread on Vaping

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They would have to get comments from the ANTZ stooge, Stan Glantz. Nothing from Dr Seigel or Bill Godshaw. No mention of the Drexel University study. I'm sure Spike had many more positive and intelligent comments that never made it into the article. It could have been worse but it could have been so much better if the writer had truly done some research.
 

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I thought it was a fair article, until they quoted Glantz and presented some numbers from the CDC survey.

How can anyone take the analogies from Stanton Glantz seriously? Poor choice to print what he says - instant dis-credibility as far as I'm concerned. Why does the media keep going to him?

They also seemed to misquote some numbers from the CDC survey. Seems as though they like to round up percentage points. Obvious read of the headlines and not the actual survey itself. Laziness.
 

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I urge everyone to go to a local news stand and buy a copy of the Sept 30 Time Magazine, as its has the best article I've ever read on the evolution of e-cigarettes and vaping (especially since it exposes the huge difference between the "cig-a-like" products and the "mods and e-juice" products).

The article contains three full pages of text and three full pages of photographs, and includes interviews with NVC's Spike Babaian, Johnson Creek's Christian Berkey, and NJOY's Craig Weiss.

The only negatives in the article are an outragous lie by Stan Glantz (claiming a e-cig emits 20% of the smoke pollution that burning cigarettes emit) and two paragraphs repeating the unsubstantiated and discredited "concerns and fears" voiced by CDC and other e-cig prohibitionists (but even that is countered by CDC's Tim McAfee being cited as approaching e-cigs with "cautious optimism).
 

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I read the TIME articles on e-cigs - and I liked the history part and the information by the shop owner - but had a big question mark very center front when I read this part:
"ALMOST NOTHING, NOT EVEN ...... OR .......[two "heavy-hitter" drugs], is more addictive than nicotine. While other drugs impair, nicotine enables." …..
I went looking for more information on nicotine... found one place where it was similar to caffeine and not as bad as folks tend to think...
Are there studies showing what was reported in the Time article? or is that statement just an opinion of the author's?

I tend not to believe it's that bad, because when I began at 18mg per ml in my juice, and lowered my nicotine level, slowly (3-4mg per batch used for approx. 2 weeks, then the next lower batch, etc.), progressively down to 9-10mg per ml - I did not find the switches that overly hard to acclimate to. I was very surprised by this! Occasionally the first or second day of the new lower level, I'd have a slight craving for a bit more, so I'd take a few puffs on one juice with more (the last batch level), then return to the lower level nicotine in another juice. That seemed to help me get through the switch. I'm heading towards a 0mg per ml nicotine in my juices - but am wondering when I read statements like in that Time article what is true about nicotine, other than what I'm experiencing lowing it.

What are the opinions here on ECF about nicotine?
NancyB
 
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I read the TIME articles on e-cigs - and I liked the history part and the information by the shop owner - but had a big question mark very center front when I read this part:
"ALMOST NOTHING, NOT EVEN ...... OR .......[two "heavy-hitter" drugs], is more addictive than nicotine. While other drugs impair, nicotine enables." …..
I went looking for more information on nicotine... found one place where it was similar to caffeine and not as bad as folks tend to think...
Are there studies showing what was reported in the Time article? or is that statement just an opinion of the author's?

I tend not to believe it's that bad, because when I began at 18mg per ml in my juice, and lowered my nicotine level, slowly (3-4mg per batch used for approx. 2 weeks, then the next lower batch, etc.), progressively down to 9-10mg per ml - I did not find the switches that overly hard to acclimate to. I was very surprised by this! Occasionally the first or second day of the new lower level, I'd have a slight craving for a bit more, so I'd take a few puffs on one juice with more (the last batch level), then return to the lower level nicotine in another juice. That seemed to help me get through the switch. I'm heading towards a 0mg per ml nicotine in my juices - but am wondering when I read statements like in that Time article what is true about nicotine, other than what I'm experiencing lowing it.

What are the opinions here on ECF about nicotine?
NancyB
IMO, you're graduating smartly. It's the ones who drop by leaps and bounds, ie 24, 18, 12, 6... That face comfort level threats and fallbacks. Decreasing in steps of 18, 17, 16. Works wonderfully. If you plateau, you plateau. Just don't push yourself and you should be fine.
 

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I urge everyone to go to a local news stand and buy a copy of the Sept 30 Time Magazine, as its has the best article I've ever read on the evolution of e-cigarettes and vaping (especially since it exposes the huge difference between the "cig-a-like" products and the "mods and e-juice" products).

The article contains three full pages of text and three full pages of photographs, and includes interviews with NVC's Spike Babaian, Johnson Creek's Christian Berkey, and NJOY's Craig Weiss.

The only negatives in the article are an outragous lie by Stan Glantz (claiming a e-cig emits 20% of the smoke pollution that burning cigarettes emit) and two paragraphs repeating the unsubstantiated and discredited "concerns and fears" voiced by CDC and other e-cig prohibitionists (but even that is countered by CDC's Tim McAfee being cited as approaching e-cigs with "cautious optimism).

Will do! Thanks for this. It will be fun crossing a line through the CDC & SG BS
 

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I urge everyone to go to a local news stand and buy a copy of the Sept 30 Time Magazine, as its has the best article I've ever read on the evolution of e-cigarettes and vaping (especially since it exposes the huge difference between the "cig-a-like" products and the "mods and e-juice" products).

The article contains three full pages of text and three full pages of photographs, and includes interviews with NVC's Spike Babaian, Johnson Creek's Christian Berkey, and NJOY's Craig Weiss.

The only negatives in the article are an outragous lie by Stan Glantz (claiming a e-cig emits 20% of the smoke pollution that burning cigarettes emit) and two paragraphs repeating the unsubstantiated and discredited "concerns and fears" voiced by CDC and other e-cig prohibitionists (but even that is countered by CDC's Tim McAfee being cited as approaching e-cigs with "cautious optimism).

My opinion: save your money, here's a copy of it posted online: (copy and paste in your browser if it doesn't show as a 'link' below)
Time - 9-30-2013 - eCig Article
 
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