Time to go on Offense

[Belushi]

Got approached by security guard today at work who directed me to the smoking area. Company just moved to a new office complex. I've always went out walking to vape in non-traffic areas. At this new place, security guard must of been alerted or something, must of followed me waiting for me to take a vape. Another fellow vapor in the smoking area said he was scolded too.

This is getting out of hand, not sure I can do the smoking area, smell of cigarettes just gets to me now. Thinking about trying the side walk, thinking side walk should be public right a way, should be safe there or not.

Seems like we need some offensive. Defense is getting us no where, regulations getting enacted without question. The standard is vaping allowed only in designated smoking areas.

I mean is this stuff bad for you or not!! And, if not, if they have no proof that second hand vapor is harmful to the general public, then what right do they have to make me inhale second hand cigarette smoke.

Heck, they should be thanking me for not polluting the corner of the parking garage they call the smoking area with butts and smoke.

End of rant. [emoji12]

 

[jazon1]

i would advise him that the "smoking area" is the wrong place for vaping as most of us vapor's are vaping because we quit smoking and are trying to avoid smoke and request they make a "vaping area" just explain to him that most people who vape dislike smelling smoke more then non smokers.

 

[smokinGAVIN]

There should be vaping areas just like there are smoking areas. No need for ashtrays and it will be the sweetest smelling area in the lot.

 

[Belushi]

It's too easy to lump vaping in with smoking. The local governments have already laid down that precedence in my opinion. Going to take some challenges to turn that around.

 

[supertrunker]

Tell him to piss off.

T

 

[Belushi]

Thought about it, but the man still has me dancing for a pay check for a little while longer anyways. Boy it is going to be fun when that is no longer true.

 

[Paramaniac413]

At school, we were banished with the smokers to the student parking lots only. Sidewalks are still considered property and not public row. I hat to step off the sidewalk into the gutter once, which angered the security guard, but since I was on township property, he couldn't argue anymore. I'd calmly talk to management and explain the smell of smoke thing. If that doesn't work, just smile and nod and use it as an educational opportunity to get smokers to quit.


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[Ou2mame]

So they want you to breathe in deadly second hand smoke, because you quit smoking? Vaping is so young, it's a shame it's starting this way.

 

[supertrunker]

Thought about it, but the man still has me dancing for a pay check for a little while longer anyways. Boy it is going to be fun when that is no longer true.

Unless the security guard signs your checks, my point stands.

Lets analyse the logic here: 'that looks like smoking so you have to go and stand over there with the smokers'. i see. Just because it looks like something 1000 times more harmful.

The water bottle everyone now carries looks like vodka.....

T

 

[freeall]

Whether it's good for you or not, is irrelevant. The fact is, it's a method of smoking and to the general eye, they see it as such. Wait a couple years, vaping will be banned everywhere just like everything else.

20 years from now it will be illegal to walk around in public without a reflective vest.

 

[sedition]

This is why mech mods are long from dead. Walk around with a shiny chunk of metal in your fist like the Fallout Mods Mutant V2, and you'll notice a sharp decline in people questioning you and throwing weight around.

 

[freeall]

Also, most security "guards" are a joke anyways. They all try to be cops and act bigger than the game. I once had a security guard tell me to get down on the ground cause I came in through the exit doors of the store. I told him to come at me and he just stood there, unsure of what to say. Just a bunch of wanna-be's.

The best part is, they hire these big fat guys to work events etc to try and look intimidating lol. Yeah ok, fatso.

 

[Noble Gas]

Also, most security "guards" are a joke anyways. They all try to be cops and act bigger than the game. I once had a security guard tell me to get down on the ground cause I came in through the exit doors of the store. I told him to come at me and he just stood there, unsure of what to say. Just a bunch of wanna-be's.
The best part is, they hire these big fat guys to work events etc to try and look intimidating lol. Yeah ok, fatso.

I'd like to address your wildly inaccurate prejudices, in hopes that you might revise your somewhat limited thinking. I worked as a security guard for many years. Sure, it is common for that job to attract a certain kind of authoritarian personality, but they're not the majority. Guards won't 'come at you' because, most of the time, they can't. They'd lose their job; which is usually to just be a presence, a visible person to deter criminal activity, and most businesses have to hire them for insurance purposes. In many cases they are hired to make sure people are safe. For instance, one job I had was standing under some guys replacing windows in a tall building, who occasionally dropped pieces of metal from four stories up. I had to keep pedestrians from walking underneath them, because those pedestrians were too distracted to read the signs and stay away. I prevented people from getting bonked on the head by falling tools and window frames, all day long.
Also, most of the guards I worked with were students. Some were artists, or poets, or musicians (like me). Being a security guard is a good way to make a living when you have other things to do and need a flexible schedule. You'd be surprised (obviously) at how many guards are remarkably well-read and/or well-educated. And, despite having a job which requires little movement and often results in weight gain, many of the guards I worked with who were overweight (myself included) had at one time studied martial arts. Sometimes they moonlighted as bouncers. Just because someone doesn't take you up on your invitation to fight, doesn't mean they can't. It might mean they have some restraint and maturity.

 

[Ou2mame]

That's extremely intelligent.

 

[Belushi]

Don't think the guard was trying to be a jerk or nothing, very nice about it, young guy. I'm sure he was directed to watch out for anyone vaping and direct them to the smoking area. New building, they don't even have no-smoking/smoking area signs up yet, we were the second company to move in. Recently, the floors have begun to fill up fast, more and more people, etc.

It is just that vaping only in designated smoking areas is now the norm. Just kind of sucks that it has gone in that direction, no compromise, no common sense....

 

[WillyZee]

all part of the bigger vape tax plan.

 

[r77r7r]

"Seems like we need some offensive. Defense is getting us no where, regulations getting enacted without question."


Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Strings]

It is just that vaping only in designated smoking areas is now the norm. Just kind of sucks that it has gone in that direction, no compromise, no common sense....

We did this to ourselves

Go browse some of the threads here. Count how many times folks espouse "we shouldn't vape where we wouldn't smoke". Then tell me that we didn't do this to ourselves

 

[OlderNDirt]

Unless the security guard signs your checks, my point stands.

Lets analyse the logic here: 'that looks like smoking so you have to go and stand over there with the smokers'. i see. Just because it looks like something 1000 times more harmful.

The water bottle everyone now carries looks like vodka.....

T

If the "it looks like smoking" applies, I guess all of us in colder climates will have to hold out breath between the smoking section and entrance to any establishment between the months of October through March.

Looks like I am going to have a good discussion with my lawyer son next time we get together and get his take on this. We have laws enacted so non-smokers are not subjected to the deadly second hand smoke. Does it make sense then to require non-smokers, ie - vapers, to subject themselves to second hand smoke if they want to vape? If laws are enacted that only allows vaping where smoking is allowed, the only place we will be able to vape (an activity that as of now has not proven to be harmful to us or those around us) is while inhaling second hand smoke or in our own homes.

Seems like a pretty good argument in our defense. "Senator, are you really going to vote for a law requiring citizens to put themselves in harms way?"

 

[supertrunker]

That's extremely intelligent.

Thank you. There was a humour and recherche attitude to posting which i rarely attain.

T