Time to upgrade?

[nasca]

a coil can last quite awhile. weeks, months...

I rewick with japanese organic cotton once or twice a week. I go through about 2ml of liquid a day, so almost half a tank. I can rewick in about 5 minutes. Maintenance is easy; the hard part about rebuildables is learning the nuances of wicking. But once you learn, it's like clockwork.

I've been looking into all these options, and the nautilus bvc coil in a silo tank seems like the way to go for me. Maybe I was burned by the early rebuildables, but I remember them just being so much fuss and I guess I'm still leery of them. These nautilus coils look easy, like I am used to, and I have only just started looking at them, but GrimGreen's review is pretty convincing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H8iZlE0xvA). However I don't know what he is talking about between the old nautilus and the new nautilus. I do gather that I would want the new variety, and it appears from the Beyond Vape website that their Silo tank will take them. Is this a good idea, or should I just stick with the standard product and tank from Aspire? Their stock tank thing just looks so small though and I am used to having more juice in reserve than that. I'm currently using a large GP S&P tank, that is beautiful on my provari.

the aspire nautilus comes in two sizes. one big, one mini. the BVC coils that everyone seems to enjoy are compatible with both, even though they were introduced alongside the mini nautilus. the silo tank will provide better aesthetics with its kayfun or fogger-like appearance and it's 22mm diameter. the big advantage over the nautilus tank is the improved airflow control. Also worth mentioning is the silo tank might offer a bit more protection for the glass since it's not fully exposed like the nautilus. I think the provari would look great with the silo. An approximation would be a provari + fogger v4; google image search for that. But looks are a personal opinion...

 

[MikeB]

I picked up a Nautilus mini today from a vape shop (wow, its neat moving to a big metro), and I got nearly zero airflow! The guy at the shop swapped out the coil chamber thing, and it was better, but when I got home I noticed it was the old style Nautilus, and not a BVC. You can see the markings on the side. I swapped them out and zero airflow again. I traced the issue to the coil itself. It was smashed down in there and blocking the air hole. Pushing it around with long needle point tweezers proved fatal to it and it all came out. Regardless, in coming out I could see that it was like smashed in there at about 45°. Somehow I don't think that is how it is supposed to look. It wasn't "verticle" at least. Is this a common problem with these things?

 

[MikeB]

also, I'm really considering getting a silo since this thing is ugly sitting on the Provari.

And finally, the guys in there where using the "Plume" dripping RBA. I don't really know what it was, but it was AMAZING. So much vapor, so smooth, so flavorful. It was vaping heaven, but the build and semi-regular dripping looked like a pain. Definitely not something I could deal with at work, but for a home vape... yea I could maybe do that. They all spoke very highly of the Kayfun too, though they didn't like it as much as their setups.

 

[tchavei]

Stop wasting your money... You seem to like the plume right? So you will have to learn to build coils and also how to wick them right? So why don't you just get a kayfun (or clone depending on your budget) and later a plume and you can use the kayfun during the day outside and at home you can drip with the plume. What you'll learn with one, you can apply to the other... The kanthal wire and wick of choice also works on both so you save in the long term

My two cents


Regards
Tony

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[Susaz]

You guys are awesome, thanks!

When I scanned the boards, I saw a lot of talk about the Kayfun and Nautilus. Seems you guys are echoing that. Looks like I have some treads to read and google to search tomorrow. Thanks for all the input, and I'll be back to check this thread more before I make any purchases, just in case there is something else I should look into.

I'm not that patient to rebuild things, but since supplies get scarcer in Baires I'm getting used to the Kayfun. After 3 or 4 builds I got the hang of it and now I vape on the thing nonstop. I must be flavor blind, but I'm not fond of dripping attys, and some are difficult to rebuild. Get the Nautilus first, and then decide to learn how to rebuild something.

 

[Susaz]

The KayFun looks really interesting. Im curious though, how long does the build last before I am rebuilding the thing? And how do you know when it's time to rebuild?

On cotton, you change the wick daily, and it's a 10 minute wash/dryburn/rewick thing. For silica about 3/5 tanks, wash/reaccomodate silica/dryburn, takes even less. I do a bow figure in the middle of which I wrap 5 turns of 30 ga Kanthal. This is my favorite build and it's so easy!

 

[Susaz]

I picked up a Nautilus mini today from a vape shop (wow, its neat moving to a big metro), and I got nearly zero airflow! The guy at the shop swapped out the coil chamber thing, and it was better, but when I got home I noticed it was the old style Nautilus, and not a BVC. You can see the markings on the side. I swapped them out and zero airflow again. I traced the issue to the coil itself. It was smashed down in there and blocking the air hole. Pushing it around with long needle point tweezers proved fatal to it and it all came out. Regardless, in coming out I could see that it was like smashed in there at about 45°. Somehow I don't think that is how it is supposed to look. It wasn't "verticle" at least. Is this a common problem with these things?

Shouldn't, it should look like a regular carto from above

 

[tchavei]

There is always more than one way to skin a cat and the same goes for kayfuns. You can rebuild them in 100 different ways and as long as you follow common sense, all 100 will work. It's not rocket science. I know a few people in their seventies that are rebuilding those things!

Anyway, each one to his own. I understand that some people don't want to have the hassle and that's OK but unless you do coils for fun or love tinkering, it's quite possible to have the same coil for months and just occasionally change wicks according to their material. I have a kf mini with the same Ekowool since I got it because it's just my backup so I don't play with it... I fill it and vape it while I'm having fun with my nano building weird coils every couple of days.

Anyway, we won't like the op less if he decides to keep on the use-and-throw-away heads.


Regards
Tony

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[beckdg]

also, I'm really considering getting a silo since this thing is ugly sitting on the Provari.

And finally, the guys in there where using the "Plume" dripping RBA. I don't really know what it was, but it was AMAZING. So much vapor, so smooth, so flavorful. It was vaping heaven, but the build and semi-regular dripping looked like a pain. Definitely not something I could deal with at work, but for a home vape... yea I could maybe do that. They all spoke very highly of the Kayfun too, though they didn't like it as much as their setups.

If you like the plume veil but don't want to drip constantly you should take a wander over to the suppliers forums and check out reos mods and catfish atty mods.

reos are bottom feeders. There's a bottle in the mod you fill with your juice. You use a rebuild able dripping atomizer such as the plume veil. When you need more juice on your wick you simply squeeze the bottle.

Now atomizers have to have a hole in the 510 connection for the juice to squeeze through and most dont. But rob (redeyedancer) of reos mods carries a few that are suitable and Tom (chowderhead1972) of catfish atty mods has been modifying a bunch for bottom feeding including the plume veil you seem to like. I have one awaiting my arrival at the home front as we speak.

 

[Pocha]

Wow, really?! That much? That seems amazing. I have to pop a new carto in my tank every 1-3 days.

It depends on the juice and how much you vape. I've gotten up to 5 or 6 tankfulls of juice thru my KFL+ clones before I have to re-wick and dry burn (I use organic Pima cotton). BUT...you go thru a tank much quicker on a Kayfun than with a carto tank. I would say almost twice as fast.

Also...I still consider myself a Kayfun newbie but it takes A LOT longer to tear down, dry burn and rewick a Kayfun than it does to replace & prime a carto. Filling a carto tank is much easier too (IMHO). Flavor and vapor production are quite a bit better with the Kayfun. So...it's ultimately a trade-off.

I still use my cartos for travel (on my motorcycle trips, etc) and when I'm annoyed with or too lazy to rewick my Kayfuns. lol. YMMV...

 

[Pocha]

Also...give Ikenvape cartos a try. I know they're hard to get but if you stalk their page once a week or subscribe to their Twitter feed you'll know when they come back in stock.

 

[Busted knuckles]

I don't know if this has been said yet, but you may like the spheroid from GP.
It's a rebuildable, but it's similar to a carto. The main differences are that it holds more juice than a carto and the coil isn't in contact with the filler, just the wick.
I've been using one for about a year now and it's still my preferred vape even though I keep up with the trends!

Good luck.