Belle, are you sure it's rubber and not silicone or latex or silly putty? I want to make sure we're both being "sciencey". LMAO Feel free to slap me anytime. I love that word though
Tips To Make The Cartos Last Longer
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Belle, are you sure it's rubber and not silicone or latex or silly putty? I want to make sure we're both being "sciencey". LMAO Feel free to slap me anytime. I love that word though
My personal (limited) experience is that my cartos arrived with less than an optimal amount of juice in them. It could be a statistical anomaly, we're only talking about 20ish units here, but it's still a fact. I had a couple that started out tasting like monkeybutt because they were so dry, one drag was all it took to tell me something was wrong with them. After I got some juice they took over a cap full even though I'd only hit them once. Definitely had an underfill issue.
I wish that I had seen a warning about making sure they're filled before using them the first time, it would have saved me some nasty flavor and prematurely roasted cartos.
Before anybody gets all up in arms I'd like to make clear that I don't blame V4L for this. They aren't filling these things themselves and it's completely unrealistic to expect them to pop open every carto to check it before they ship it out. I now know to inspect them, lesson learned.
In closing, before Wisteelersfan chimes in... no, you don't wanna know why I can identify the taste of monkeybutt.
I wish that I had seen a warning about making sure they're filled before using them the first time, it would have saved me some nasty flavor and prematurely roasted cartos.
Before anybody gets all up in arms I'd like to make clear that I don't blame V4L for this. They aren't filling these things themselves and it's completely unrealistic to expect them to pop open every carto to check it before they ship it out. I now know to inspect them, lesson learned.
In closing, before Wisteelersfan chimes in... no, you don't wanna know why I can identify the taste of monkeybutt.
Actually that thought had never even crossed my mind Gribeau. I been off work too long. My over active brain is sliding further and further into the realm of nonsense and foolishness. And this place just seems to get the pleasure of it.
I never take anything on these forums verbatum as I been way too quick myself re this ecig stuff......but i want all informatin good/bad/otherwise and as an adult I will decide what to take and leave.
I agree some carts are not filled enough. One suppliers cartos (Not v4L) I recvd had every carto of particular flavor nearly dry, but I had exact juice anyway so filling before even using fixed that problem.
Thus OP was VALUE to me and helped. Thanks MikeD.
My gripe is I want exact juice in bottle thats in cartos or at least tell me its a clone.
I agree some carts are not filled enough. One suppliers cartos (Not v4L) I recvd had every carto of particular flavor nearly dry, but I had exact juice anyway so filling before even using fixed that problem.
Thus OP was VALUE to me and helped. Thanks MikeD.
My gripe is I want exact juice in bottle thats in cartos or at least tell me its a clone.
If it wasn't you somebody would have grabbed it. You can't leave a statement like that dangling around here.
If it wasn't you somebody would have grabbed it. You can't leave a statement like that dangling around here.
Now THAT's A fact!
I have encountered the occasional underfilled (IMHO) carto and as they are hand filled it's reasonable to assume that the same individual may have underfilled the whole batch at their workstation. That would likely mean that others in the same box as well as other boxes would have the same issue.
Also, even if the cartos are sealed in the silicone caps, it's possible that some product loss could have occurred during shipping or warehousing. This would seem especially true of flavors that don't move very quickly like holiday samplers, etc.
Nice catch Mike. Thanks for the heads up!
I completely disagree with this statement. In my experience V4L has a horrible failure rate.
However, I find also find the OP's comments to be a bit silly and unwarranted.
I have to completely disagree with that statement ...I have had very little problems with V4Ls products ... not sure what you could have experienced that I haven't (im not a complete newbie, but have only used two companies since starting)
It was V4Ls quality that got me back into vaping after a terrible experience with another company .... This is a relatively new industry and problems are going to happen ...that said, even with V4Ls constant flux in design, they have always provided above average quality in my opinion ....for what that's worth
Ahhh - Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.
It's enough to make a mathematician cackle in insane glee. [Or perhaps that's just me...]
It's enough to make a mathematician cackle in insane glee. [Or perhaps that's just me...]
::digs through trove of pithy sayings::
97% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Statistics lie, liars use statistics.
Never trust an economist with a pie chart.
I will say that out of the 10 batteries I've purchased, 2 had to be replaced. V4L was very good about replacing them & their service is absolutely top notch. The product they receive from their supplier can be suspect sometimes. But that has been addressed elsewhere in these forums. I care nothing about the fail rate if they back them up with a good warranty.
Numbers don't lie - but statisticians do.
>> I care nothing about the fail rate if they back them up with a good warranty.
Although there is a convenience factor, every supplier has failures - rather very high, others not as much. I agree with your sentiment, though, when the rubber ultimately meets the proverbial road, it's all about how it works out in the end...
>> I care nothing about the fail rate if they back them up with a good warranty.
Although there is a convenience factor, every supplier has failures - rather very high, others not as much. I agree with your sentiment, though, when the rubber ultimately meets the proverbial road, it's all about how it works out in the end...
Hey I just saw this thread and was wondering what carto's ya'll were talking about?
I just tried the 510 express and I have probably used about 25 of them and haven't had problem. So far I've had 1 that tasted a little weak, compared to the rest, but I still got a good 7 hrs of vaping out of it without any topping off or anything.
I just tried the 510 express and I have probably used about 25 of them and haven't had problem. So far I've had 1 that tasted a little weak, compared to the rest, but I still got a good 7 hrs of vaping out of it without any topping off or anything.
I have had the same problem with prefilled carts from V4L . Way to many in my opinion are dried out or something. Some have zero taste. Ahhh monkeybutt..that's the word I've been looking for to discribe the carts that do have some flavor. Not a biggy...I boiled out (I use a turky baster, and flush out the crud) 4 boxes of carts. There as good as new..filled with fantastc juice from Ms. T's . Note to self..Never buy prefilled from Vapor4Life. Sorry if this offends anyone...but I've ordered many boxes of prefilled, and most of them were yuck. They were all VG, and that could very well have something to do with my experience with predfilled carts. But...I bought several VG flavored juice as well..the flavor was okay..but very subtle. I ordered just flavor (from another company) to match the ones I bought and added it to the juice. It helped some. Many friends tried there carts and VG juice as well...we all felt the same way..garbo. I read on the forums the VG is good for boosting vapor..but it compromise's the taste. That makes sense to me..and I'm not faulting Vapor4Life. I did bring this up with them..and I don't think they were real pleased. I emailed them back..and said hey..this is called customer feedback..Please don't take it personally. I like there service and I like their products..and especially I like there blank cartomiser's..The premium carts..totally rock~
P.S. I don't like their cost of shipping..$25.00 to Canada.There have been threads on their cost to ship...hopefully something will be done in the near future
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I'm trying to go back to find where I read that failure rate, but searching through these forums are a PITA.
Tastes differ. I didn't intend to criticize the juice that V4L sells, I was just recounting my experience with prefilled cartos.
In my first order I didn't purchase any juice, I planned to try several prefilled flavors and then order juice for what I liked. I got enough of a taste before the burning nasty started to figure out what I liked the best from my initial purchase and ordered juice for the 555 and Smilin Menthol.
I've been happy with those flavors since I filled the cartos myself. I think I'll like them better in cartos that haven't been toasted. Those are both the premium versions of the flavors, I'm pretty sure they're a mix of PG and VG but I don't know the ratio.
In my first order I didn't purchase any juice, I planned to try several prefilled flavors and then order juice for what I liked. I got enough of a taste before the burning nasty started to figure out what I liked the best from my initial purchase and ordered juice for the 555 and Smilin Menthol.
I've been happy with those flavors since I filled the cartos myself. I think I'll like them better in cartos that haven't been toasted. Those are both the premium versions of the flavors, I'm pretty sure they're a mix of PG and VG but I don't know the ratio.
One (wo)man's stats is another (wo)man's "huh"?
Batts: I counted 33 batts here last I looked. I think one is under the bed or something. (At intervals I run 'em all thru the chargers so they're all ready to go.) All sizes, styles and colors.
All charged up fine over the weekend.
There are a few airy ones in there, I think 3, that work best if i palm them to block some of the air flow, and if I only had those three batts I guess I'd do toothpicks or whatever or sweetly request a replacement. Some draw a little tight, some a little airy, one of the manuals wants a really hard button-push-down, but all of them basically give me a nice vape. None have died, even though I drop the poor things - what, am I blessed by the vape angels or something?
Cartos: We all develop our own systems - mine is usually to start with a prefill, and just keep topping with whatever juice I think would blend well, as soon as I want to, or the same. I like blending. Sometimes I really pack a blank with condom and spin and whatever I feel like doing and it goes pretty well, tho it seems to me some other brands of juices go quicker than V4L. I don't time that, it would be like timing meals and how long it takes before the cake is gone. It's too much a pleasure for me to go that technical.
I have hundreds of used cartos in a jar, and NONE have gone dry after a few hits. Most go for at least a couple hours with no top. A few seem to want a handout after an hour, 'specially if I'm just pulling like a mule on the pass-thru. But not nasty-burnt, that stopped happening after the first month. I've been on this untopped choc banana since 10 AM and it's still rolling along fine at 5:30 - but I don't vape quite so much at work. And to tell you the truth, when not at work I'm not sure any more, because I chain-vape solid on the PT then, and I like 'em juicy so I top off every hour or 3.
I sometimes top a new prefill carto just because I want to add a little peppermint or something, but I usually can't add that much, condo method or top drop. It does vary a little.
All I know is I'm finding the whole thing working well, consistently, and cheaper to do as I accumulate more juice (heaps and piles of many juices, it's so much fun - but V4L is always home base) and savvy (even if i DON'T wash cartos - I am so lazy. Or maybe so damned busy, ai).
If I'd had real problems I'd say so. Seems like I've been thru enough batts and cartos that something should have gone wrong... altho I admit I'm sort of adaptable by temperament. But with the very small stuff, so far, seems like there's always a workaround. Mostly, it's fun. Wish everyone could have that experience.
Batts: I counted 33 batts here last I looked. I think one is under the bed or something. (At intervals I run 'em all thru the chargers so they're all ready to go.) All sizes, styles and colors.
All charged up fine over the weekend.
There are a few airy ones in there, I think 3, that work best if i palm them to block some of the air flow, and if I only had those three batts I guess I'd do toothpicks or whatever or sweetly request a replacement. Some draw a little tight, some a little airy, one of the manuals wants a really hard button-push-down, but all of them basically give me a nice vape. None have died, even though I drop the poor things - what, am I blessed by the vape angels or something?
Cartos: We all develop our own systems - mine is usually to start with a prefill, and just keep topping with whatever juice I think would blend well, as soon as I want to, or the same. I like blending. Sometimes I really pack a blank with condom and spin and whatever I feel like doing and it goes pretty well, tho it seems to me some other brands of juices go quicker than V4L. I don't time that, it would be like timing meals and how long it takes before the cake is gone. It's too much a pleasure for me to go that technical.
I have hundreds of used cartos in a jar, and NONE have gone dry after a few hits. Most go for at least a couple hours with no top. A few seem to want a handout after an hour, 'specially if I'm just pulling like a mule on the pass-thru. But not nasty-burnt, that stopped happening after the first month. I've been on this untopped choc banana since 10 AM and it's still rolling along fine at 5:30 - but I don't vape quite so much at work. And to tell you the truth, when not at work I'm not sure any more, because I chain-vape solid on the PT then, and I like 'em juicy so I top off every hour or 3.
I sometimes top a new prefill carto just because I want to add a little peppermint or something, but I usually can't add that much, condo method or top drop. It does vary a little.
All I know is I'm finding the whole thing working well, consistently, and cheaper to do as I accumulate more juice (heaps and piles of many juices, it's so much fun - but V4L is always home base) and savvy (even if i DON'T wash cartos - I am so lazy. Or maybe so damned busy, ai).
If I'd had real problems I'd say so. Seems like I've been thru enough batts and cartos that something should have gone wrong... altho I admit I'm sort of adaptable by temperament. But with the very small stuff, so far, seems like there's always a workaround. Mostly, it's fun. Wish everyone could have that experience.
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Darr, I recall seeing that too, and maybe it's been posted more than once, but in case not and you're looking for the same one I recall, I wanted to let you know that thread ended up being deleted later (a 'burn' one).
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I interrupt this thread to report: JenJen, every time I see your posts lately I want to say, please don't lose the Santa cap lol!
I get a strange kick out of it still being there, and it gives me the feeling this last set of holidays isn't so far behind us, which altho they were very bittersweet for my family, resulted in some surprising strength and rallying, and therefore memories I'll always be glad to have. (Oops, ok now that was a hijack if ever there was one!
As you were, folks.)
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