To Pen Style or not to Pen Style????

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NebulaBrot

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It sounds like you are saying that I would probably find a little better performance in the 302 but for a very short duration.
Well, I find more flavor from 302s - with "good" airflow. Airflow can get complex because beyond the atty itself there is the adapter and the native connectors. With each component, there are variations from different manufacturers. For example, if we take the same atty and adapter and put it on different devices (each has a different connector and each connector has different airflow), we get slightly different experiences. Similarly, same attys with same device and change the adapters = different experiences, etc.

So far, from my experiments, it seems the "801" atty may be the most durable (long-lived), 4072 the most fragile (although good flavor) and the 302 and BE112 seem to come in fairly similar in durability.

But, this can all be functions of vaping patterns as well. For example, the 302 has the biggest airholes. This design could be intentional and if we use a less airy adapter (and/or even slightly tighten further with the flat-head adjustment), we could be restricting airflow beyond what the atty might be designed for. IF (BIG IF) this has any validity, I could conceive of the possibility that we might be over-heating the atty which might contribute to the ohms drop. Another possible factor could be vaping style. I tend to multi-hit (rolling like a pipe smoker). This could possibly be impacting the coil resistance (over time) compared to taking one draw and then letting the coil cool - even for 20 or 30 seconds. All speculative theory. But, I can say that flavor certainly changes (at least for me) with airflow.
 

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Don, thanks for the additional information on 801 "type" options. I've been interested in trying a Joye 302 to see if it was significantly better than the BE112. Do you think there is much difference between the two if you are a "dripper"?

I guess I dismissed the Leo because of the incompatability issue and the 3.7 volt battery. But I did think it was a positive that someone came out with a truely "new" PV. Would you recommend the Leo to a new person as an "equal but similar" option to the eGo?

I'm waiting on my Darwin and hoping it is the last PV I buy for a long time. It will be my first VV. I just wish someone could solve the atomizer problem as I vew that as the true "weak link" in vaping.

And like you Don, I remember Leaford's bird. I wonder if he took it with him to China. Maybe we should plan to meet in the "Old Vets Home" for a round of bingo and vaping.:lol:
I have very little experience with the BE112 atty. The three I tried (from two different vendors) died quickly. I know that's a ridiculously small sample, but it soured me on them. And it has been some time since I used the Joye 302's. I enjoyed the taste, but they weren't hitting hard enough for me, so I moved on the the EastMall's. I will be trying the 302 again with my Infinity, but haven't yet. Oh, I always/only drip (except when using cartos): PTB and blue foam fixes for inadequate cartridges never did it for me (and I ain't no modder). So yeah, the 302 was great with dripping.

The Leo is not "equal but similar" to the eGo. About all they have in common is that they are both fat batts, i.e., high-mAh proprietary batteries (rather than mod casings for generic batts), wider than the traditional skinny batts. The 800 mAh Leo is 153 mm long, e.g., virtually penstyle length. Here it is in comparison to the original 650 mAh eGO (photos approximately to scale).

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I think the Leo battery is just fine: the mAh providing roughly a day's worth of vaping, a comfortable switch button that engages each and every time, attractive IMO, and well mated to the atty. But it is the atomizer that I am enamored with. Good (although not maximum) vapor and TH ... and superlative taste. I was impressed by the vapor production of the 510 atomizer, but that's about it. I never got much TH from it and the best that I can say about its flavor is that it doesn't distort the e-liquid (unlike generic Kr8 cartos for example).

The Leo my mainstay, e.g., that's what I chose to be photographed with for my new avatar. When I want a stronger hit, a 901 atty I purchased recently from LiteCigUSA is performing just great on my ProVape-1 and my EastMall 801 atty on my new Infinity hits as hard as I could possibly want. And for that "smoking a cigarette" type of experience, I've got my new Maxxy (MaxX Fusion). Life is good.:)

If I could afford the Darwin (or if Drew had offered to have me review it:(), that probably would replace the Infinity in the equation. But whatever talents I have are not those that lend themselves to bringing in the big bucks.:2cool:

I doubt whether Leaford brought Mike to China. I've not seen him in any of Leaford's China-based videos. But he will live on in our memories and in Leaford's older video reviews.;)
 
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Wow, this is the best 801 discussion in a while. I use the 801/BE112 98% of the time. I like the 801, LOVE the BE112 at 6v, and use IkenVape's 801 fusion cartos when I have to use a carto.
Don, sorry to hear your poor experience with the BE112. They are wonderful. I've been tempted to try a LEO, but I have a PS Prodigy, A new Buzz and an Ali'i. No new mods for me. Need to sell the Ali'i one day.
Anyhow, I have never tried the Joye 302 as they do not work on the Prodigy. Might need to change that based on Nebula's info above.
To the OP, you may want to try a 5v PT with your 801 to see if that improves your experience. They really do shine with dripping at higher voltages.
 
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