Too Much Nicotine- Made me Ill

[Winkos]

I just tried my first batch of DIY e-liquid and my calculations were checked with the e-juice calculator. Took one hit off of my new tasty e-liquid and got a supreme head rush and overall ill feeling that I used to get if I smoked after not smoking for a long time.

I am using 100mg/ml nicotine from an American company. I will need to get a nic test to see if it is the nicotine or if (as I suspected) the juices I was buying from the vendor have very little nicotine in them. The reason I started to think this is that I swear I received a batch of e-juice that seemed watered down. It ruined three cartos in row and have little flavor and no throat hit whatsoever.

When I first started buying from the vendor the juices I used gave me a little head rush in the morning when I vaped. Then a few shipments later the new juices did not. When I get the nic test I hope I can test both juices- my DIY and the vendor's to see the difference. I will let you all know when I do.

 

[Hoosier]

I believe the test methods currently in use here are not accurate for flavored liquid as the flavoring can change the PH of the liquid.

It will be interesting to see what your nic-base comes out to be though!

 

[Winkos]

Good to know Hoosier. I will take that in to account and at least see if my nicotine base is accurate. The reason I would be upset if the vendor's nic level is not correct is that is the e-juice my daughter is using as she tries to quit smoking. She still craves cigarettes which concerns me as I really want her to quit.

 

[Hoosier]

I still remember craving cigs even when I got enough nicotine. I needed a flavor that satisfied and finally found one. Sometime later, I discovered I had forgotten to smoke the day before.

 

[Traver]

Can you tell what you are doing? How many ml of 100mg nicotine are you mixing into how many ml of juice? What was the level of nicotine in your juice to start. What is the flavor and pg/vg ratio? where did it come from? What battery are you using? How many ohms are you cartos?

We would like to help but we can't do it without some basic information.

 

[mgordon1100]

Yeah, too much nicotine will do that to you. I just over dosed myself the other day. My stupid mistake in making a test batch of only 20 drops. I dripped my PG from the nic bottle completely. I wouldn't use the word ill, but it was very harsh and made me dizzy from two puffs. Then I realized. This is why I can't see anyone puffing on something with too much nic. You just know, right from the first hit.

Anyhow, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out a vendor of e-juice is low balling the nic level. It's a high priced ticket, and supplies seem to dwindling down. At least they are in the form of vendors that I can buy from, vanishing from the marketplace. I'd like to see what your test results come out to as well. I have high hopes that your supply will be just fine.

 

[Str8V8ping]

If its your first time mixing you should cut the 100 down to 50 like most people do anyway . 50 is more than enough to work with and you get double the nic base . Are you sure you used the calculator correctly ?WHat MG did you mix it to ?

 

[bamsbbq]

i bet with using 100mg, the calculator said say for example use 1ml and when first mixing you say "ah hell one or two drops more doesnt make a diiference"..at 100mg, it does make a difference..... like Str8 said cut your mix down to 50mg and try again.

when i vape vendors liquids, i find that their 24mg is like my 18mg..just my own view..the only one that has given me the rush of OP feeling was Dawn @DIYFS, her 26mg is truly 26mg

 

[my4jewels]

OMG, I always mix down my high nic to workable proportions and store it safely with a label. I have never directly mixed with 100mg. My target with nic is around 6-10mg, so I premix it to around 12-14mg so I have it available just as it is. As long as my nic is "in my range", I'm good.

Also, I test my nic before any mixing is done to be sure it's reasonable accurate.

 

[AzPlumber]

Mixing vapable liquid from 100mg base raises several safety concerns and like others have said it is much safer to dilute your base before making a finished liquid. Complete and thorough mixing should be a priority when using 100mg and even more so if you are using any VG at all. VG can be extremely difficult to get fully mixed in.

 

[Winkos]

I wanted a 18mg per ml e-juice with a 80% PG/ 20% VG and I wanted the flavoring to be 20%. I used 5.4 ml of 100mg/ml in PG. I then added 13.8 ml PG and 4.8ml VG. Mixed this and added 6ml of flavoring. I was very careful with my measurements and used medical syringes. Did I make a mistake with my measurements?

The juice is very tasty. I made another batch sans the nicotine and mixed the two together. It is still a little strong for me so I plan on cutting it again.

Thank for the cross check!

 

[Hoosier]

The math adds up, but id discontinue using that Nic until you test it if I were you.

Taste the 0-Nic bases by themselves to make sure there is not a bite to them also.

 

[AzPlumber]

5.4ml of 100mg is 540mg total divided by 30ml is 18mg per ml. Your calcs are right on the nic. Are your flavors in pg or vg (20% VG would be 6ml)?

 

[Shilo]

Since you did taste it without the nic and say it is still strong give it time to steep on that no nic version and also with a higher PG content you may very well need less than 20 percent flavorings. PG allows flavors through boldy VG mutes flavors. It also depends on the flavorings/company you used as to how strong the mix would be. Some are weaker where others are very potent and even this is subjective.

 

[mgordon1100]

Maybe your numbers add up, but your percentages are wrong. You should have 12.6 PG and 6 VG. That shift of 18.6 mls from PG to VG would make it not so strong. When you vaped the non nic liquid, would you say it made you ill like the nic version did? What is ill anyway? Did you throw up?

 

[AzPlumber]

I think the no nic batch was mixed with the nic batch and it was still too strong. Take Hoosier's advise and test the nic base before vaping any more.

 

[Kurt]

It could be that the nic level of a commercial juice you were vaping was actually lower than the label. Maybe it said "18 mg" but was only 10 mg. You get used to it, think it's 18 mg, then make a ligit 18 mg juice and wham!

I agree with hoosier as well: test the 100 mg.

Also, do not use drops, especially with 100 mg. Use a syringe. Drop sizes vary quite a lot, and this could make it way too strong.