Transition Time

[RageKage]

First, congratulations! You are reaping the benefits of the company, culture and family you built. And you deserve every bit of it! I said in one of my first comments to you here that you and NT are what every small business should strive for. The product you put out there is top shelf but not overpriced, and you treat your customers like family. That's why I - and many others I'm sure - will keep buying My joose from you for as long as I can.

That being said, PM me details on how to get NT into my local shop when you can. I have one that I think would fit the bill. I drop by every couple weeks to see what new goodies they have and they're friendly, knowledgable guys with a really nice shop, tasting bar, rebuilding station, etc. Lots of foot traffic in and out of the store, new vapers to shop regulars. I just want to make sure I can still get the goods if and when the FDA's ban hammer comes down.

 

[Shoebunnie]

I have narrowed my favorite B&M's down to two. One has at least 5 or more locations and I don't foresee them carrying anyone else's juice. It's a shame because the guys are knowledgeable and friendly. The other is outside of the metroplex but overall would be perfect integrity wise. The owner also appreciates quality. Unfortunately the people in that town like cheap and have a hard time understanding sometimes you have to pay more for the good stuff. I will start checking out other shops.

My retail experiences have mostly consisted of 2 shops telling me I couldn't use my zmax with an RDA because I would "blow myself up" and other one telling my a certain aspire tank wasn't made in Pyrex (I already had 4 in Pyrex). There was also a shop that turned their nose up at the idea of selling premium juice because they make their own. I feel so fortunate to have found NT and REO, my life has gotten a lot more pleasurable.

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

I too am stymied by local vape stores as they either make their own juice or sell juice made by people in town. When I talked with my friend who owns a store about carrying NT he said, "Oh there will be no reason to carry anything like THAT." And when I asked him what plans the juice makers had in place to meet and go over the FDA hurdles he said, "Why will that be a problem? It's only going to cost a few hundred dollars per flavor to get them passed, they already have the labeling all set." And I made him look the ruling up and he started crunching numbers and he was all but still blew off my attempts at getting him to carry NT.

Personally I don't think the vape shops are paying enough attention

 

[Pictor]

Personally I don't think the vape shops are paying enough attention

Perhaps only the best will survive! Won't be a bad thing except there won't be enough of them!

 

[Shoebunnie]

I too am stymied by local vape stores as they either make their own juice or sell juice made by people in town. When I talked with my friend who owns a store about carrying NT he said, "Oh there will be no reason to carry anything like THAT." And when I asked him what plans the juice makers had in place to meet and go over the FDA hurdles he said, "Why will that be a problem? It's only going to cost a few hundred dollars per flavor to get them passed, they already have the labeling all set." And I made him look the ruling up and he started crunching numbers and he was all but still blew off my attempts at getting him to carry NT.

Personally I don't think the vape shops are paying enough attention

Did you ask what he meant by "anything like THAT?" I would've wanted to ask if he meant anything that's delicious and made with quality ingredients.

 

[DanielKF]

Most of the vape shops I have been in seem pretty snooty and act like you are ignorant for suggesting they should look into carrying anything else other than what they have. I have also noticed and this is sad, but I seem to know more than any of the employees i have talked to at any of these B&M's that are in my area. I was thinking about my handing out business cards idea and I am honestly a little worried about finding a decent B&M that I can convince to carry NT liquid, I may just have to do what some people have suggested and make a drive a few times a year and stock up. There is one shop I would like to try but when I mentioned NT to them last time I was in there they stated that they were already to heavily invested in another E-Liquid company to switch vendors(SIGH). My dream is that I will be able to run down to the corner gas station, the Walmart, etc, etc and buy a bottle of NT juice whenever I want. Does anyone else in this family live in or around the Columbus, OH area, if so we need to get together and make sure we can get NT here in town.

 

[XJ-linux]

Most of the vape shops I have been in seem pretty snooty and act like you are ignorant for suggesting they should look into carrying anything else other than what they have. I have also noticed and this is sad, but I seem to know more than any of the employees i have talked to at any of these B&M's that are in my area. I was thinking about my handing out business cards idea and I am honestly a little worried about finding a decent B&M that I can convince to carry NT liquid, I may just have to do what some people have suggested and make a drive a few times a year and stock up. There is one shop I would like to try but when I mentioned NT to them last time I was in there they stated that they were already to heavily invested in another E-Liquid company to switch vendors(SIGH). My dream is that I will be able to run down to the corner gas station, the Walmart, etc, etc and buy a bottle of NT juice whenever I want. Does anyone else in this family live in or around the Columbus, OH area, if so we need to get together and make sure we can get NT here in town.

The only business I've frequented with as eccentric and echo-chambered employees and customers would be gun stores. Not all vape shops and gun shops are like that by a long shot, but the parallels are striking to me in the "bad" examples. I'd imagine it will become even more similar when the ATF starts running the vape enforcement apparatus. Anyhow, it's just sort of funny to me when I hear some of the stories. The bad vape shops tell you your mod will blow up but this clone is awesome, that they know all about the FDA stuff (the FDA doesn't even know what's going to happen) and that they are mixologists as well, just like every bad gun store has a guy who was an "operator" over in "the sandbox" and this more expensive rifle (that actually just a cottage industry AR clone) is "what the SEALS really use" on black ops. Good times.

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

Did you ask what he meant by "anything like THAT?" I would've wanted to ask if he meant anything that's delicious and made with quality ingredients.

I think he meant any situation where he had to ship something in...He gets his stock dropped off for the most part that I know...

 

[Newportlocal]

I wish Kent,Megan,and the rest of the Nicoticket family and business lots of success. I was already mulling if any local vape shops have decent enough people to carry Nicoticket. Finally, I found an ejuice home with juice and people I like and now all this stuff. Going corporate not just handmade by Kent,stopping SR juice for a while, possible inability to sell online. Sigh.............
Hopefully,it all works out for the best and people can continue to get the Nicoticket experience. I know I am a fan on multiple levels.

 

[supertrunker]

No vape shops where i live. No shops and no people now i come to think of it. I get out in 5.

The FDA has no power over zero nic liquids. At all. And they also cannot ban nicotine outright. Everyone knows that the choke-hold is the nic-liquid; after all you cannot ban batteries, cotton wool, or wire, else Macgyver and America are out of luck.

I would like to take issue with mr carroll who posted, and i paraphrase 'crap liquids are worse then analogs' - which is so patently untrue as to defy belief. Probably 5000 of my posts are fabricated fantasy but they have a grain of possibility about them!

Carry on!

T

 

[joecarroll42]

No vape shops where i live. No shops and no people now i come to think of it. I get out in 5.

The FDA has no power over zero nic liquids. At all. And they also cannot ban nicotine outright. Everyone knows that the choke-hold is the nic-liquid; after all you cannot ban batteries, cotton wool, or wire, else Macgyver and America are out of luck.

I would like to take issue with mr carroll who posted, and i paraphrase 'crap liquids are worse then analogs' - which is so patently untrue as to defy belief. Probably 5000 of my posts are fabricated fantasy but they have a grain of possibility about them!

Carry on!

T

You can take as much issue as you'd like, and can be as literal as you'd like in your way of perceiving ones statements. Fact of it is, without good juice to keep someone interested and on track, they more than likely will resort to old habits. Every Marlboro Light I ever smoked tasted exactly the same. Consistency and easy access are huge factors in ones addiction. So you sir, can 'carry on.'


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[supertrunker]

Odd - i loved the first one of the day more than the others.

"Being stuck with crap juice is worse than smoking analogs." On what basis? I'll accept any medical or scientific opinion on the matter.

Consistency and easy access...err NT juice and not leaving your armchair would cover those bases no? Which is in fact what this entire thread is about - the drive to improve consistency of the product line and elevate it above regulatory suspicion.

Try harder.

T

 

[ItTechy]

As a vaper for over 4 years now I can truly appreciate your commitment to the industry and where it will be going in the near future.

I also fully understand that the cost associated with a facility such as you have is immense which has benefits and also some drawbacks.

As many may know very few e-liquid companies have a facility such as yours, and I can only think of one which I will not mention, as this thread is about Nicoticket.

The only drawback that I personally see is the inability to mix custom VG / PG and Nicotine percentages, which perhaps in the future you may be able to accommodate.

The reasoning is likewise fully understandable and will be generally accepted by all.

It is impossible to produce a high quality product in any quantity without established standards.

With that I wish you and your company the greatest success

 

[joecarroll42]

Odd - i loved the first one of the day more than the others.

"Being stuck with crap juice is worse than smoking analogs." On what basis? I'll accept any medical or scientific opinion on the matter.

Consistency and easy access...err NT juice and not leaving your armchair would cover those bases no? Which is in fact what this entire thread is about - the drive to improve consistency of the product line and elevate it above regulatory suspicion.

Try harder.

T

There's no need to get in a pissing contest, and turn this thread into something it's not. You've taken everything said and made them complete literal statements, which is not what they were meant to be. If I truly believed juice of any kind and analogs were on the same level as far as health is concerned, I wouldn't be here, and I wouldn't have hundreds if not thousands of dollars invested into it. You 'win.' That's what you're looking for isn't it? Now we can move on from your issues, since you brought them up to begin with and let this thread be what it is truly meant to be. Clark, Katy and the rest of the NT family are the ones meant to shine here. Not you, nor me. They're the heroes here. For creating a product that has helped us all in preserving our lives. The fact that they have the ability to advance themselves as individuals, and as a company is more than inspiring and respectable. So as I originally posted, congratulations to you guys! For as long as I'm able to, whether it's online or in a retail store, I will continue to support you and your success.


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[jrenae4]

Oh happy day, to see raz cup on the list So much love to you all! (((((((((hugs))))))))))

 

[MikeL76]

I guess I'm going to have to start going around to all the B&M's around here and start handing out NT business cards. I see a lot of Space Jam and Suicide bunny here in Columbus, OH, I'm hoping that at least one of the local B&M's will start carrying NT in the future as it would be nice to pick up some juice whenever I wanted. I will be order online a decent amount though as there are a lot of SR's that I consider my ADV or they would be if I wasn't scared of running out of them

Congratulations on all the success that has been had, you guys deserve it as to me you are hands down the best vendor out there, when it comes to quality, customer service, and the selection of yumminess is 2nd to none if you ask me. Just so glad to know that NT will make it through this regulation crap. VAPE ON NT FAMILY VAPE ON

Yup.. Was asking about carrying NT when I was picking up a Taifun today at the local B&M...

 

[supertrunker]

From the sound of B&M's from you guys, i'd say a 1 in 5 acceptance rate looks optimistic.

T

 

[MikeL76]

I see a lot of comments about the quality of the local B&Ms. That is the one thing that the FDA is going to help us with... Just as online, there's a million shoddy vendors cause it's easy to launch a business, as things tighten up, only the strong will survive.... just like NT is stepping up its game, the B&Ms that want to make it will as well. I was just in a new B&M today with an actual clean room for mixing, really nice place... Lots of mod's, all kinds of stuff... 3rd in their chain... The s...holes won't last when they can't move cheap liquid to a bunch of newbs without regulatory concerns... Going to be more "Brands" such as NT carried, and going to be more legitimate, if you will, stores...

Bottom line, I think that will iron itself out, but we just need to help the process by keeping our eyes and wallets focused on the shops that are trying to do it right.

 

[MikeL76]

Personally, I think your first post Clark, should be a no reply sticky for a bit so we can easily find/reference what we need to hoard... Oh, I mean gather....

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Does this mean I might be able to put up my DIY stuff....Wakonda made the cut from (SR) to full fledged top shelf juice.



I've been worried it wouldn't last, now that I feel more assured, I believe I will be ordering quite often.

Maurice