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Got my triple coils today. I tried two of them just to make sure I got a good read on them.
They're stinking hot at 6V. Burnt my lips and that's with a delrin drip tip on there. I think they're best around 5V. Though, they're still pretty hot and I wouldn't say vapor production is spectacular. At 4V they don't put out much vapor, way less than my single coil Boge cartos.
Flavor compares similarly to my Boge cartos, maybe a little richer, but otherwise not much to say there.
The draw is on the loose side, but still noticeably tighter than the Boges which are known for having a loose draw. That's actually one of the things I really like about them.
At this point, I think triple coils are just overkill. They might be good for someone who likes a really hot vape, but they're not going to be my bag. Sad or not so sad to say, I still like my Boge cartos better. I still haven't tried the dual coils so those might be better for my own personal preference. I tend to like a cooler vape anyway.
All in all, a big disappointment. I was expecting huge plumes of vapor and only got burnt lips.
They're stinking hot at 6V. Burnt my lips and that's with a delrin drip tip on there. I think they're best around 5V. Though, they're still pretty hot and I wouldn't say vapor production is spectacular. At 4V they don't put out much vapor, way less than my single coil Boge cartos.
Flavor compares similarly to my Boge cartos, maybe a little richer, but otherwise not much to say there.
The draw is on the loose side, but still noticeably tighter than the Boges which are known for having a loose draw. That's actually one of the things I really like about them.
At this point, I think triple coils are just overkill. They might be good for someone who likes a really hot vape, but they're not going to be my bag. Sad or not so sad to say, I still like my Boge cartos better. I still haven't tried the dual coils so those might be better for my own personal preference. I tend to like a cooler vape anyway.
All in all, a big disappointment. I was expecting huge plumes of vapor and only got burnt lips.
Well when you run them at 6 volts and 1.5 ohms it is 4 AMPS of current draw and 24 WATTS ! what you get is what you get !
These are a BAD idea IMO this is way over the rated specs of 95% of batteries out there ( except AW's ) and the power is divided between 3 coils so each coil sees 8 watts x 3 = 24 watts .
So if you want to kill your batts and risk them blowing up or dieing prematurely use a QUAD COIL atty @ 1.2 ohms please, J/K dont do it .
Hey I know use a 1.5 single coil and run it at 8 watts ????? .
Or a 2 ohm DC much better operating area for your batts.
These are a BAD idea IMO this is way over the rated specs of 95% of batteries out there ( except AW's ) and the power is divided between 3 coils so each coil sees 8 watts x 3 = 24 watts .
So if you want to kill your batts and risk them blowing up or dieing prematurely use a QUAD COIL atty @ 1.2 ohms please, J/K dont do it .
Hey I know use a 1.5 single coil and run it at 8 watts ????? .
Or a 2 ohm DC much better operating area for your batts.
luckily, two or three coils at HV also means very short amounts of time completing the circuit. It isn't like anyone is going to be taking a 6 or 7 second draw. - A mishap where the button on someones PV ends up pressed accidentally for a long time might cause a problem, but 2 second or less bursts mitigate the over-discharge "risk".
I measured mine beforehand. They're not 1.5Ω, they're 1.7Ω. They use three 5Ω coils so they should measure out to 1.7Ω, which mine did. At 6V they're using 22W.
Any of the dual batt mods that utilize a switching regulator can power these at 6V. Current draw on the battery side is <3A which is well within tolerance for a couple IMR 14500s or two protected 18650 batts. A dual batt mod with a couple protected 14500 batts would be the exception. It would likely hit battery over-current protection.
A booster mod with a single batt is more likely to have a problem. Mods like the Pro-Vari will simply error out due to excessive current draw. The Pro-Vari can't do it and the Darwin will tap out before it gets to 22W. You need a heavy duty mod to power these at 6V. In my case, I used a 30W booster with a 10A battery. No problem there.
The thing with these triples is you have to get each coil hot enough to make a lot of vapor. When you combine all that heat, the final vapor output is very hot. I think you'd actually do much better running 3 single coil 5Ω cartomizers in parallel than 3 coils in one cartomizer. That way the heat of each coil doesn't add to the final heat of the vapor. I'm also thinking the same thing would apply to a dual coil, cooler more voluminous vape with two separate cartomizers as opposed to one with two coils.
What I need right now is a 1->2 atomizer connector with a 2->1 mouthpiece. I think that would be my perfect vape.
Any of the dual batt mods that utilize a switching regulator can power these at 6V. Current draw on the battery side is <3A which is well within tolerance for a couple IMR 14500s or two protected 18650 batts. A dual batt mod with a couple protected 14500 batts would be the exception. It would likely hit battery over-current protection.
A booster mod with a single batt is more likely to have a problem. Mods like the Pro-Vari will simply error out due to excessive current draw. The Pro-Vari can't do it and the Darwin will tap out before it gets to 22W. You need a heavy duty mod to power these at 6V. In my case, I used a 30W booster with a 10A battery. No problem there.
The thing with these triples is you have to get each coil hot enough to make a lot of vapor. When you combine all that heat, the final vapor output is very hot. I think you'd actually do much better running 3 single coil 5Ω cartomizers in parallel than 3 coils in one cartomizer. That way the heat of each coil doesn't add to the final heat of the vapor. I'm also thinking the same thing would apply to a dual coil, cooler more voluminous vape with two separate cartomizers as opposed to one with two coils.
What I need right now is a 1->2 atomizer connector with a 2->1 mouthpiece. I think that would be my perfect vape.
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SO what you are saying is redesign the PV around a bad carto design ? , maybe they should rethink the carto design ???
Oh and use AW batts only please.
Oh and use AW batts only please.
Negative, I've already said I thought it was a bad design. I'm only saying there are already PVs out there that can power these full tilt no problem.
can those Triple Coil be used on a 7.4v mod? with 2x 18350 IMR 800Mah 3.7V batteries?
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or with the ego booster on a ego-t batterie, boosting the batterie to 4.7v ?
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or with the ego booster on a ego-t batterie, boosting the batterie to 4.7v ?
With fresh batteries and a full carto, the amp draw with a pair of 18350s would be in the neighborhood of 4.5 amps (if they can really deliver that much). That's actually getting in to the realm of possibly dangerous.
Time will tell with the ego booster what sort of amps it can deliver. I haven't found that information in the marketing materials or the early reviews.
Got it ! BUT you will need to use AW batts that are unprotected to pull the current .
Got something against MNKE's? A few of their new ones are booming with the flashlight and RC guys.
Yes, but also no. You have to look in detail at required input current.
For a the buck modules that have been making the rounds (TI, OKR-T), you can get by with a couple protected 18650s. Typical discharge max for those is 2C or ~5A. Since you're pulling 3.6A with the triple coil at 6V, you're only pulling about 3.2A from the batts (assuming 90% efficiency and 7.4V). Well within tolerance for a protected 18650. However, well over tolerance for a protected 14500 since 2C for that battery is 1.5A.
With a linear regulator, you're looking at 3.6A input which is still within tolerance for a protected 18650, but likely out of tolerance for the regulator.
With a boost mod, you're looking at over 5A input current. Only an IMR 18650 will handle it. That's over tolerance for an IMR 14500. Of course, that's assmuming you have access to a boost regulator that can put out 20 some Watts.
In any case, it's pretty moot. These triple coils are impossibly hot to vape at 6V, well, at least for me.
tripple coil mod with running on 240v with 12 gauge wire
just turn it on and give it a kiss
it doesnt even mind if you slip a little tongue
just turn it on and give it a kiss
it doesnt even mind if you slip a little tongue
Well, regardless of all else: The triple coils provide a darn nice vape on a 5.0v regulated mod. Fresh charged IMR's in my triple-v are going 4.8 under load and it is a really nice vape.
I broke down and got a box. When the price comes down, I'll buy more.
I broke down and got a box. When the price comes down, I'll buy more.
Well, I just put one through the whole range I'm capable of. The TC full of juice came in at 1.7 ohms. - On an eGo 3.2v batt, it barely produced vapor. there was some warmth and some flavor, but barely any visible vapor. On a 3.7v eGo clone charged to 4.2, they produce a little more vapor but not much more. With a 5.0v ni-mh batt which runs 4.2v under load with these, it wasn't bad. Pretty good vapor and so-so flavor. On a 5.0v regulated mod (now always producing 5.0v load voltage because I brought my AW IMRs home from work), they make clouds of nice dense, thick, warm vapor and the flavor is right up there with any other device in my arsenal. 5.0v is where I can start to talk about TH too. Nice TH right at 5.0v.
My 6.0v set up is a couple of lifep04 batts. Off the charger they produce pretty close to 7.0v even. However, they can only create 5.0v loaded so it was exactly the same experience as my regulated 5.0v.
7.4... Wow. I took a pair of right-off-the-charger IMR High Drains (not my AWs, but nice ones anyway) and threw them in my maxi rough stack. They read 8.4v at rest. They produced 6.48v loaded. That might have been the most insane vape I've ever had. It was very hot, but the surprise was the flavor was perfect. It didn't scorch or wash out at all. - I have no doubt it would be easy to burn the roof of your mouth with vapor that hot, but the flavor was perfect. The draw was only long enough to get a read from my meter, and it produced a massive lung full of vapor that even fully inhaled completely obscured my monitor when I exhaled. I did that half a dozen times before I'd had enough nicotine to lay off for a while. BTW, the TH was powerful. It was even more powerful than I had imagined it might be.
5.0v is a really nice way to run these, but if you're hardcore enough to want them hotter than that, they won't burn at 6.5 load volts from a 7.4v set up.
My 6.0v set up is a couple of lifep04 batts. Off the charger they produce pretty close to 7.0v even. However, they can only create 5.0v loaded so it was exactly the same experience as my regulated 5.0v.
7.4... Wow. I took a pair of right-off-the-charger IMR High Drains (not my AWs, but nice ones anyway) and threw them in my maxi rough stack. They read 8.4v at rest. They produced 6.48v loaded. That might have been the most insane vape I've ever had. It was very hot, but the surprise was the flavor was perfect. It didn't scorch or wash out at all. - I have no doubt it would be easy to burn the roof of your mouth with vapor that hot, but the flavor was perfect. The draw was only long enough to get a read from my meter, and it produced a massive lung full of vapor that even fully inhaled completely obscured my monitor when I exhaled. I did that half a dozen times before I'd had enough nicotine to lay off for a while. BTW, the TH was powerful. It was even more powerful than I had imagined it might be.
5.0v is a really nice way to run these, but if you're hardcore enough to want them hotter than that, they won't burn at 6.5 load volts from a 7.4v set up.
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[I've not read through this whole thread. If something like the following has already been posted, I apologize.]
Dual coil ... triple coil ... What's next? Twenty coils?
I tried to find the classic SNL Triple Trac parody, but that was the best I was able to come up with. Pretty good actually; hadn't seen it before.
I love the dual coils BTW ... and I am somewhat curious about these triples. I wonder how they would fare on my Ego Booster (which can crank it up to 4.7V)? If needed, I can run the Booster on my AW IMR 18650 mod.
Dual coil ... triple coil ... What's next? Twenty coils?
I tried to find the classic SNL Triple Trac parody, but that was the best I was able to come up with. Pretty good actually; hadn't seen it before.
I love the dual coils BTW ... and I am somewhat curious about these triples. I wonder how they would fare on my Ego Booster (which can crank it up to 4.7V)? If needed, I can run the Booster on my AW IMR 18650 mod.
Mad TV was great, way funnier that SNL. Got a laugh out of that one.
You'll be pulling almost 3A with a triple at 4.7V. That's probably 4A to the eGo battery since boost requires higher input current. Be surprised if the rig can handle it. You need around 5V on the triples before they start working good.
You'll be pulling almost 3A with a triple at 4.7V. That's probably 4A to the eGo battery since boost requires higher input current. Be surprised if the rig can handle it. You need around 5V on the triples before they start working good.
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