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Krakkan

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Well seemed like a decent story all in all but here it is. Be nice like I said I am not a media type so was a bit nervous.


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FOX 8 Special - Trying to kick the habit with "e-cigarettes"

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Electronic cigarette kits can go between $50 and $100 dollars. (FOX 8 News)

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New Orleans - They can look, feel and taste like cigarettes. They don't contain tar or tobacco, but can contain nicotine. They are called electronic cigarettes and they're sparking smokers' interest.

Tom Oliver smoked traditional cigarettes for 22 years, until he discovered electronic cigarettes.

"It is just similar enough to satisfy my craving." He explains how electronic cigarettes work.

Oliver points to his dissected e-cig saying, "This is the battery. It is a lithium re-chargeable battery. This is the atomizer that you screw together with the battery. And there is a wick that captures the fluid that is in here and wicks it down into the atomizer."

The atomizer turns the liquid -- with or without nicotine -- into vapor.

Dr. Charles Brown, a professor with LSU Health Sciences Center, is not sold on the e-cig.

"I don't see how anything that addicts you to nicotine is healthy," Brown said.

He also worries the hi tech gadget that offers fruity flavored vapor will addict a new generation to nicotine. And he wonders how Louisiana's Clean Air Act will deal with people smoking electronic cigarettes in places where traditional smokes are banned.

John Henry is not only an e-smoker, but he also sells them thru www.truesmoker.com. He says since the fluid that fuels the electronic cigarettes comes in high, medium, low and no nicotine smokers can use the product to quit smoking -- though it is not the products' purpose.

"This is not a smoking cessation device. If you happen to quit smoking because of it, God bless you," Henry said. He and other smokers claim they feel much healthier since quitting traditional cigarettes.

http://www.fox8live.com/mostpopular/story/FOX-8-Special-Trying-to-kick-the-habit-with-e/wA0KJuCcOEC514mANfkwfQ.cspx
 
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I'm so sick of all these reactions people give to long-term tobacco smokers: nicotine is a bad thing to be addicted to, it could attract teen, yada, yada, yada.

Nicotine is similar to caffiene. It's not healthy for you, but ecigs contain only that, pg and pure water. A far cry from FDA approved, legal tobacco cigs with not just nicotine, but 3,999 harmful chemicals like ARSENIC& AMONIA! Substances that could kill someone in larger doses.

It doesn't take much to influence teens, but I know of a few adolescents who viewed this product as a product to "help old smokers finally quit".
 

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Very cool Krakkan!

You know as "journalists" they are expected to cover both sides:rolleyes:...

Maybe someone called them "healthy" in the video? Or did Doc decide to assume that...

Doctor assumed it I guess I fed this reporter with so much E-cig info I thought her head would blow up... The doctor didn't even have a computer in his office and in the report said PG isnt that the same stuff in Anti-freeze. I pretty much had them where they couldnt use anything but long term effects and the PG as a spin but hell I have seen worse.
 

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Doctor assumed it I guess I fed this reporter with so much E-cig info I thought her head would blow up... The doctor didn't even have a computer in his office and in the report said PG isnt that the same stuff in Anti-freeze. I pretty much had them where they couldnt use anything but long term effects and the PG as a spin but hell I have seen worse.

I saw it. When the doctor could only use "anti-freeze" as an example... it sort of ticked me off. Then when he said he was worried about how it pollutes the air... it DID tick me off!
 

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Why couldn't this doctor say "PROPYLENE GLYCOL is used in Anti-Freeze AND lemme think... Oh, I know... Tobacco!"

Because he had no real idea what he was talking about....but he has an MD next to his name, making him qualified to basically say whatever the hell he wants without doing proper research (spending 15 minutes browsing this forum:rolleyes:)

Don't be discouraged, we will be heard eventually. All it takes is one simple debate. They interview Krakkan and the Doc at the same time, we see a much different result I'm sure.;)
 

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I saw it. When the doctor could only use "anti-freeze" as an example... it sort of ticked me off. Then when he said he was worried about how it pollutes the air... it DID tick me off!

It would be nice to remind him that PG goes into medicine, make-up, face creams, toothpaste, and a whole lot of things that we ingest, smear on, and wash with every day......oh, yes, that's right, he'd say...NOT

That's the mindset the powers that be seem to be mindbogglingly (that's a word!) focused in on....minds like a steel trap, that is. Yes, it's in anti-freeze, too. And cooling units. Guess we should all go back to cigarettes and give up. When is somebody going to come up with UNDERGROUND INTERNET, so we can keep ordering our stuff, and have it delvered by the UNDERGROUND UPS. Well, never mind, I guess that already exists to a point. What I'd like to know is how people can take EXTENS and ...... and not get so picked on. I can't imagine anything more gross than an 80 yr old man with a ____ on looking at me.
Maybe it's just me but stupidity is harder to put up with the older you get.
 
Could have been a lot worse, in my opinion. I think the article was done rather well.

A 1994 report by the Surgeon General "Preventing Tobacco Use Among Young People", asserted, “When young people no longer want to smoke the epidemic itself will die.”13 A critical task of public health was counteracting the “indoctrination” of the young when they were most susceptible.Hence the report dismissed as “misguided” the debate as to whether cigarette promotion “caused” young people to smoke; the conclusion was, “Whether causal or not, [promotion] fosters the uptake of smoking, initiating for many a dismal and relentless chain of events.”

Billboards are a major venue of cigarette advertising (10% of Michigan billboards advertised alcohol and tobacco, according to the Detroit Free Press[34] ). They made the news when, in the tobacco settlement of 1999, all cigarette billboards were replaced with anti-smoking messages. In a parody of the Marlboro Man, some billboards depicted cowboys riding on ranches with slogans like "Bob, I miss my lung".

I started smoking as a teen, well after the OMG CANCER!!!!!!!!! LUNG DESEASE HEART PROBLEMS YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stuff and the settlement.

I wish people would get off the children/teen issue as a way to promote their agendas. It's really getting tiring.

Off to read that NZ report that was cited in another thread and send the good doc a nice letter.
 

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Yeah uploading now to YouTube... We were interviewed for good 3 hrs and they edited it all to hell after watching again kind of irritates me as well. I knew even though the reporter said that it was an informational interview that they would bring some so called expert to discredit. They didn't play a lot of what we had to say seemed they went more carefree as all of us talked about the ECF forums ECA and all the studies etc and the video they did show was kind of after the formal interview us just kind of hanging out talking.. But guess that knowledge was boring to them. However all in all I don't think it was terrible just a typical news story.
 

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I thought I read somewhere on here that the glycol in antifreeze is a different type of glycol. I think PG is mostly alchol based? Common sense makes me think you cant have a high alchol based antifreeze in a 200+ degree engine radiator lol. It could be the same thing, I failed chemistry hehe. I'm only an expert on guitars and music.
 

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Krakkan, overall I thought that was a very good report. Much better than most I've seen. The anchor even directed people to look on their site for more information on using e-cigs as an alternative. I thought the doc was an idiot, and hopefully others will see that as well, but I do believe both sides were presented and you got more air time than the good doctor did. Great Job, thanks for sharing.
 

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Krakkan, overall I thought that was a very good report. Much better than most I've seen. The anchor even directed people to look on their site for more information on using e-cigs as an alternative. I thought the doc was an idiot, and hopefully others will see that as well, but I do believe both sides were presented and you got more air time than the good doctor did. Great Job, thanks for sharing.

Thanks TamaraSJ :)
 

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Because he had no real idea what he was talking about....but he has an MD next to his name, making him qualified to basically say whatever the hell he wants without doing proper research (spending 15 minutes browsing this forum:rolleyes:)

Don't be discouraged, we will be heard eventually. All it takes is one simple debate. They interview Krakkan and the Doc at the same time, we see a much different result I'm sure.;)

Yeah I would have loved it but I doubt we will ever see an interview like that in full....
 

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It would be nice to remind him that PG goes into medicine, make-up, face creams, toothpaste, and a whole lot of things that we ingest, smear on, and wash with every day......oh, yes, that's right, he'd say...NOT

That's the mindset the powers that be seem to be mindbogglingly (that's a word!) focused in on....minds like a steel trap, that is. Yes, it's in anti-freeze, too. And cooling units. Guess we should all go back to cigarettes and give up. When is somebody going to come up with UNDERGROUND INTERNET, so we can keep ordering our stuff, and have it delvered by the UNDERGROUND UPS. Well, never mind, I guess that already exists to a point. What I'd like to know is how people can take EXTENS and ...... and not get so picked on. I can't imagine anything more gross than an 80 yr old man with a ____ on looking at me.
Maybe it's just me but stupidity is harder to put up with the older you get.

The ...... part choked me up totally missed this post earlier lol great one Kate51
 
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