trustfire batteries

[tj99959]

Go ahaid and use your AW IMR's, but why do you feel the need to cram them down everyones throat!?!

IMHO, they are over priced and don't work a bit better.

Bat's blow up when people do stupid things, AW IMR's included.

 

[mlinky]

Go ahaid and use your AW IMR's, but why do you feel the need to cram them down everyones throat!?!

IMHO, they are over priced and don't work a bit better.

Bat's blow up when people do stupid things, AW IMR's included.

Cool story bro

 

[mlinky]

I just did and im sold don't need no marks on my handsome face lol, i was looking at the mahs,but the AW IMR batts can blow too no?
Thanks alot mlinky

LOL, yeah, but really if you use good batteries and don't abuse them, it's highly unlikely to hurt your handsome face. OTOH, having used REO Minis exclusively for almost a year, my experience is that you would be unhappy with the performance. We've had more than one new REO owner using ***fire batteries on their Minis and thinking something was wrong with their mod, which was fixed when they switched to the correct battery.

 

[Technonut]

We are talking facts here... TF / UF 14500 900mAh batteries (No matter what color the wrapper is) are rated by the manufacturer as putting out a maximum 1.3 amps A Low Resistance 1.5 ohm atomizer @ 3.7v requires 2.47 amps of power. Right off the bat we see that the LR 1.5 ohm atty is attempting to draw close to DOUBLE the rated amps of the TF UF 14500 900mAh battery. Will it work? Yes.. Is it stressing the battery? Yes, VERY much. It is not good, and can be potentially dangerous.

I just happen to have a month old TrustFire 14500 900mAh 3.7v battery which was included in a mod purchase. I also have a AW IMR 14500 600mAh 3.7v high drain battery. I have a LR VaporKings 1.5 ohm atty, and a big honking Leo standard ohm cartomizer. To throw in the mix, I also have a BDL IMR 14500 600mAh 3.7v high drain battery. These are lower cost IMR batteries, which have a reputation of not performing well.

Let's test these out... (Click To Enlarge All Pics)





Using my Craftsman Digital MM, the VaporKing 1.5 ohm atty actually ohms in @ 1.7 ohms, and the Leo Standard Resistance carto @ 3.0 ohms.




ALL 3 batteries are fresh off of my Swiss design Pila charger, which is considered one of the best chargers available. Let's take an initial voltage reading with no load on the REO Mini using a voltmeter which also has a top atty connector to measure actual voltage under load.. (TrustFire / BDL / AW IMR)





Nothing unusual here.. All 3 batteries are around the same voltage with no load as they should be.


Now, let's take a reading with the VaporKings LR 510 atty to get a reading under load. These pics were all taken after a 5 second button press on the Mini....





Given the TrustFire has an amp output rating of only 1.3 amps, and is attempting to power the LR atty which is attempting to draw around 2.47 amps, this extreme voltage drop is to be expected, and is REALLY stressing the battery. This is a 3.7v battery sucked down to 3.40v fresh off the charger with only a 5 second button press. The BDL does not fare much better for being marketed as an IMR high drain battery. The AW IMR is supplying more than enough amperage, and maintains it's rated 3.7V.


Now, let's throw the 3.0 ohm standard resistance Leo carto on with a 5 second button press...





Again, all batteries are performing as expected. The 3.0 ohm Leo carto is well within the rated amp output of the TrustFire 14500. The TF is not stressed, and is maintaining a consistant 3.72v. The same is true with the BDL... Neither of these batteries are stressed, and are performing as designed. The AW IMR maintains a whopping 3.90v with the 3.0 ohm carto, and despite the TrustFire being rated @ 900mAh, the AW IMR will actually last longer, and supply a steady high amp output.

This is not smoke and mirrors folks... Many vendors are selling the voltmeters which include a connector for under load readings. Feel free to try the same tests yourself.. I guarantee you will get the same results..

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Yep I've seen the performance charts and the Trustfires drop off a cliff performance wise at 50%...and I own Trustfires- were included in my starter kit.

 

[tj99959]

No one denies the quality of AW IMR's (just look at the price)

But about as necessary as having a Reo instead of an eGo in order to vape.

Put this little puppy in your mod and see how much voltage drop you get.

 

[Technonut]

No one denies the quality of AW IMR's (just look at the price)

But about as necessary as having a Reo instead of an eGo in order to vape.

Only if you use low resistance attys.... LR attys should NOT be used with single TF / UF 14500 battery... any 3.7V battery should at least maintain 3.7v under load... A 3.7v battery should be recharged after it drops consistantly to 3.5v...So, a 3.7v battery fresh off the charger dropping to 3.4v under load is not good at all...

 

[Hoosier]

No one denies the quality of AW IMR's (just look at the price)

But about as necessary as having a Reo instead of an eGo in order to vape.

As long as you don't mind voltage clipping, shorter battery lifetime, and never getting the full potential of a low resistance atomizer, then yes, you are right, a high drain battery is not necassary.

If all the coils that are used are standard resistance, or higher, then yes, a high drain battery is not necassary.

I used TF's in my mods until they could no longer hold half the charge they could when they were new and replaced them with AW IMR's. (3 of my 4 TF's were dead by the time the IMR's arrived.) I get longer times between chargings and the IMR's have already lasted twice as long as the TF's did and I swear the time between charging is longer, but that has to be my imagination. Even with that imagination, I know they are not reduced in capacity with more than twice as much usage because they have lasted over twice as long and I have only 2 instead of the 4 I used when I was using TF's.

Some folks look at the cost of purchase. I look at the cost of ownership and the AW IMR's win from my own experience.

 

[dearme]

Guys, We're talking .67 a battery difference in price between the TrustFire 14500 900 mah and the AW 14500 600 mah
.........4.79 at Madvapes plus 2.99 shipping under 75.00 versus 6.74 plus 1.71 shipping under 36.00 at Super T Manufacturing. For .67 cents per battery, I would want better performance and a safer battery based on the demand put on it..........that would be 1/5 of a penny per day for 12 month battery life, or 1/3 of a penny per day for 6 month battery life monetary difference between the two batteries......The AWs sound like cheap insurance to me.......

 

[tj99959]

and never getting the full potential of a low resistance atomizer

Now we're getting to the meat of the subject.
While many people like running a 1.5ohm atty @ 4- 4.2v, there are just as many that find that to hot.
Personally, I'd rather go back to cigarettes than vape @ 10-11watts.
I can vape comfortably @ 7-8watts on a single trustfire.

 

[mlkeyballs23]

Only if you use low resistance attys.... LR attys should NOT be used with single TF / UF 14500 battery... any 3.7V battery should at least maintain 3.7v under load... A 3.7v battery should be recharged after it drops consistantly to 3.5v...So, a 3.7v battery fresh off the charger dropping to 3.4v under load is not good at all...

does the the AW IMR use the same charger as the t fire?

 

[blacklung]

does the the AW IMR use the same charger as the t fire?

yes... no special charger needed

 

[Big Hitter]

Now we're getting to the meat of the subject.
While many people like running a 1.5ohm atty @ 4- 4.2v, there are just as many that find that to hot.
Personally, I'd rather go back to cigarettes than vape @ 10-11watts.
I can vape comfortably @ 7-8watts on a single trustfire.

Then why not go for a 1.8Ω atty with a much better performing AW IMR battery ??

You can drive a crap car or a nice car both at either 40mph or 70mph

But with a nice car you will be safer, more comfortable, and it will last longer.

With cars it takes thousands of dollars to go for the best ..... with 14500 batters you only have to pony up an extra buck for the best !!

Seems like a no brainer to me, but what every your into thats cool.

Like I said you can get higher ohm attys if you need to. No one says you have to drive your car with the accelerator floored all the time