trying to choose: Manual vs Automatic

[lvictory23]

I am trying to figure out what to order as my first kit from V4L.
I tried doing an search and seeing if anyone had already asked these questions but I couldn't find anything.

What is the difference (the manual has a little button or something to turn it off and on?)

is there a difference in over all life of the battery?

does one over the other feel more like smoking an analog?

does one or the other seem to use less of the cartridge?

thanks for reply's and opinions in advance

Lvictory

 

[maaron]

Hey! First of all good choice with V4L! I believe most of the kits on the site come with two batteries....if you end up getting a kit just put it in the comments on your order that you would like one manual and one auto battery,they would be more than happy to do that for you i'm sure! They both last the same amount of time on a charge and(for me) both have the same feeling when you take a hit. The auto battery has a sensor in it that turns it on when you take a drag on it and the manual has a small bitton on it to turn the atomizer on. Some people say that they like to take a "primer" puff on the auto batteries to heat the cart up first then take a regular(slow and long) hit but I don't find that necessary. And they both last the same amount of time on the carts before drying them up. Hope this helps and welcome to the club!

 

[VapingRulz]

I like the manuals much better than the autos. Better control, taste and throat hit.

Maybe get one of each to see which you prefer?

 

[Kimmy]

Auto is more similar to smoking, but in my opinion the manuals last longer and produce more vapor. Usually a cart will last most of the day in either or. Welcome!

 

[alex1407]

I've got manual batteries about month ago,before that i've used auto.Imo manual is way better than auto,the charge last about the same but you get more vape from manual specially from refilled carts.

 

[mwahle1]

I appear to be the oddball. I prefer the automatics. Like one of the other members said, you should get one of each since the sets come with two. That way you can determine what you like best. Overall, they are both good.

 

[Belletrist]

lvic, i used to live in stone mountain! i'm coming down to ATL later this month, actually.

you'll prob wanna try both types of batts before you 'really' decide, as everyone said. i got autos to start, liked them, but have manuals now and much prefer them.

 

[Michelle43]

I agree, in the comments section of your kit order, ask for 1 manual and 1 auto and try them both out. I like both of them for different situations. If I am on the go, I like the auto as I can just keep it in my mouth and vape away. When sitting around and not by my laptop and Pass Through, I like the manual as it doesn't need a primer puff.

Here is a cool comparison video done by one of the members here.

YouTube - Vapor King Manual and Auto Batteries

 

[lvictory23]

I think that manuals might work better for me but I'll see if they don't mind sending one of each kind so that I can figure out which I like more.
I am not a daily smoker so I am hoping that this will work really well for me. the only thing making me nervous is that i never spent more than twenty bucks a month on cigarettes and not very sure how long one 5 pack of cartridges will last me...

 

[Tenebrae]

Autos for new cartomizers, Manuals for fresh refills. Too easy to overfill and hurt the auto battery.

I like the manuals but fear if I use them exclusively my hand will start protesting (carpal tunnel)

Excellent video quality!

 

[DaShiVa]

I've found exactly the same performance from both.
The auto is more like a real cigarette.
The manual is a sealed battery, so is hardier. (You can't leak juice into it, etc, although with proper use, no juice will leak anyway)

I love the shortie autos for using in the car, as they're light (for a battery) and I can keep it in my mouth and vape hands free.

The manuals I prefer anytime I don't need my hands free.

I use an auto PT while real-time gaming.

I use manual PT at work, and when I'm doing anything other than gaming at home.

As autos get older, and dust gets into them, etc, they can end up sticking on until their cutoff which if you're not drawing on it, can burn out cartos (not in one go, but they definitely reduce the lifespan of a carto for refilling, and waste juice), I prefer the control of the manual which rarely sticks.

Dan.

 

[keyzygirl]

I figure a carto is like a 1/2 pack of cigs,some say 3/4 a pack.So figure how long a pack of cigs would last you.At first you probably will vape more than you smoked.Its like a new toy.

 

[Michelle43]

I think that manuals might work better for me but I'll see if they don't mind sending one of each kind so that I can figure out which I like more.
I am not a daily smoker so I am hoping that this will work really well for me. the only thing making me nervous is that i never spent more than twenty bucks a month on cigarettes and not very sure how long one 5 pack of cartridges will last me...

In my experience 1 cartomizer lasts almost as long as 1 pack would, maybe a little less. I believe right now with the kits they are sending 10 cartomizers instead of the 5. I think Mark posted that somewhere.

 

[DaShiVa]

Yeah a carto is about 15 cigarettes, imho.
However, There's a couple of things to consider.
1) The nicotine rating of a cigarette (If you are aware of it, or are in a country that requires it to be labeled) is the amount their machines estimate are absorbed by a smoker, and is freebase nicotine. (Their machines, so I have heard, are tweaked to make this amount seem lower than the real-life average smoker). Conversely, the nicotine rating on cartomizers/juice is the total amount in the juice, which is going to be more than what you absorb.
2) You won't (after the first carto or 2) feel ill from vaping like you will from smoking (unless using very high nic amounts) which means that (especially if you lower your nic level) combined with the ability to smoke anywhere, and take a single puff, or 15 at a time, tend to spread your vaping out, meaning that where you might smoke a whole cigarette in 3 minutes (like I used to) you'll vape the equivalent amount over 15m.
However, where you have a cigarette every hour, you will vape every half hour, or, eventually, basically nonstop (nonstop of a drag on it every few minutes, not nonstop every breath is vaping)
In any event, the end result is that you will probably end up vaping more than you smoke, as you will have nothing to limit you. No 'inside' restrictions, no 'starting to feel ill' restrictions, and the knowledge that it's not as bad for you or those around you (most of us think/feel) as smoking is.

I think if you keep your juice nicotine levels high, and force yourself to vape less, you can lower the amount you vape to that of what you used to smoke (or even less) But I don't, and I am happier than I was when smoking about tenfold.

 

[plantlvr]

I like the manuals and the pt manual, but I do have a Xlong auto that rocks! Try them both, but if you do prefer the manuals, try the Xlong auto when you can!

 

[Pav]

I've never tried the VK autos, but did use M401 autos so I can't attest to the equivilancy in sensitivity of both, but I can say that if the VK auto is as sensitive as the M401 auto then be prepared for it to go off if there is loud noise or vibrations. If you're around loud music or driving with a sunroof open it can drain the battery fast. This is a dealbreaker for me when it comes to autos so I never bothered with the VK auto. The manual is the way to go imo.

Also, I've never experienced any carpal tunnel type symptoms squeezing the manual button. It doesn't take that much force to activate it.

 

[Raven1]

Prefer the auto batts, just wish they were more reliable with less fiddle factor. They get stuck way too easily and I'm often having to do the pin-insert trick to get them back to normal.

 

[DaShiVa]

Does anyone have/know of a diagram of the auto switch mechanism in the V4L autos?
I'm thinking knowing it in detail may make it easier for me to figure out a way to clean it I'd be comfortable with.

 

[Pawpaw]

I've never tried the VK autos, but did use M401 autos so I can't attest to the equivilancy in sensitivity of both, but I can say that if the VK auto is as sensitive as the M401 auto then be prepared for it to go off if there is loud noise or vibrations. If you're around loud music or driving with a sunroof open it can drain the battery fast. This is a dealbreaker for me when it comes to autos so I never bothered with the VK auto. The manual is the way to go imo.

Also, I've never experienced any carpal tunnel type symptoms squeezing the manual button. It doesn't take that much force to activate it.

The VK autos are not activated by sound. They work off the suction when you draw on the carto.

You don't want to get them too close to magnets, though.

 

[FadedLine]

I like them all. When they are both fully charged I don't notice any difference in performance.