Trying to decide which DNA box(Hanna or vaporshark mod or protovapor,need some HELP in sorting through info.

[stoprealones]

I definitely prefer a smaller box mod with built in battery.
I looked at the vaporshark,Hanna, and another one. Out of the three I really liked the vaporshark as I know the batt is built in,but I also know that there have been some problems with them,yet many people also express loving them. They also only have 1200 mah batt in them,and I'm not certain if you can use it as a passthru while vaping. If you can,do could you use a battery pack for this?
The Hanna mod is quite expensive,but if its worth it,I will get it. Can this be used as a passthrough,as well? Is the battery built in it? I can't believe I can't sort through some very basic questions,but I'm not understanding about this device.I would be looking at the v3 standard. If it is built in,how does it work? If not built in,how does that work? Do you send it back to them to change battery?Also, does this have short protection in it? Lastly, what is the approximate wait time on this device?
Then I finally looked at the protovape as it appears to also be a good,reliable device.They are very clear on their site as to what is what,but the form factor is an issue. If I knew that it was light weight that might make a difference.
I've been battling with cigarettes for a very long time,on and off the ecigs.There has only been one device that kept me off cigs the longest and that was the Darwin with the dna board in it.
Any info. out there would be most appreciated......

 

[Miata GT]

Someone with more direct knowledge is bound to chime in with more info. The Hana mini model has a built in battery and I believe both are "pass though" of sorts. People have reported that the battery appears to be replaceable but would need to break the solder connection to replace.

 

[ruet]

If I were going to buy a DNA device today it would be a Protovapor XPV. The Hana would be a close second. The vapor shark would not be a consideration.

 

[stoprealones]

Thanks,Miata, for chiming in-hopefully some experts on this will also help me sort through it, so that I at least can make a more informed decision. I really think a dna 20 would work for me as I don't vape high wattage,but we'll see what happens.

 

[^Top-Shelf^]

+1 for the Hana Mini, battery is user serviceable "has a connector and not soldered"

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ziSJh3cTjSs

 

[suspectK]

I'm stoked to get a hana mini now. I just found out the battery pack is removable without soldering, and they sell battery packs for it...

I'm going with the hana for the way it looks..I like the protovapor, but I'm feeling the hana with a clear wrap on it more.

 

[stoprealones]

If I were going to buy a DNA device today it would be a Protovapor XPV. The Hana would be a close second. The vapor shark would not be a consideration.

Hey Ruet, Would you happen to know the weight of the XPV?I have a provari,and its too heavy for my comfort level.

Thanks for the feedback

 

[stoprealones]

I'm stoked to get a hana mini now. I just found out the battery pack is removable without soldering, and they sell battery packs for it...

I'm going with the hana for the way it looks..I like the protovapor, but I'm feeling the hana with a clear wrap on it more.

Hi Suspect-
I have no clue what a battery pack is,could you explain this to me? So, does it come with built in battery,then when it dies,you buy another battery pack? not sure what you're saying. I guess I'm very dense when it comes to the hanna technology.

 

[^Top-Shelf^]

Hey Ruet, Would you happen to know the weight of the XPV?I have a provari,and its too heavy for my comfort level.

Thanks for the feedback

Weighs in at 8oz

 

[ruet]

I don't know exactly but I can't figure it would weigh much more than an 18650 battery. perhaps 25-33% more. You have the battery, aluminum chassis, DNA board, buttons, 510 connector and the top and bottom caps.

 

[stoprealones]

+1 for the Hana Mini, battery is user serviceable "has a connector and not soldered"

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ziSJh3cTjSs

Thanks for the link,Top Shelf; it helped a bit,but he really didn't go into too much detail about how the battery process works. I saw what looked like two strands of what might be called batteries,but again it's unclear to me how this works.Now,from what I understand the mini has this battery or battery pack built in,but what about the regular,is that built in? He also didn't go into how the battery is removed or what would be done next. I think I'll browse a few other vids to see if I can glean anymore info. on the mysterious hana mod.

 

[stoprealones]

Weighs in at 8oz

hmmmm,that's pretty heavy.......have to go pick something up that weighs that and see,but it seems a bit much to lug around. I like small and light,but build and functionality are also equally important. Thanks for the info.

 

[stoprealones]

I sure hope I get some more answers about the Hanna mod as I would have to read for weeks to probably get the info. I need. I really would like to know essentially about the battery aspects of each ,the mini and the standard. I'll watch some more vids in the morning to see if I can learn more.
I also would love to hear some comparisons on the weight of the XPV and how people who own them experience vaping on this device for long periods.
Thanks Again to all those who chimed in this evening,hope more do...
I'd reallyl like to make a decison by tomorrow sometime

 

[suspectK]

Hi Suspect-
I have no clue what a battery pack is,could you explain this to me? So, does it come with built in battery,then when it dies,you buy another battery pack? not sure what you're saying. I guess I'm very dense when it comes to the hanna technology.

A battery pack is more than one battery, typically two with mods, and they're typically lithium polymer batteries. They can be in series(doubles voltage) or parallel (doubles capacity/mAh rating). The poly-litho batteries offer high continuous ratings paired up with high capacities, and they are in a smaller package.

Batteries typically last about a year. I'd be surprised if you get much longer than that with a battery built in.. from most not being able to let battery drain all the way. So 300-500 charges per battery (single or pack).

Edit- check out the specific threads for them. Happy users on both sides. Any issues get taken care of.
Hana mini is 1100mAh.. battery pack($15.. I'm sure you could figure out an upgrade, but I would wait for warranty to end). Full size is an 18650.. only 30Amp available is sony (2100mAh)..I guess efest has a 35Amp...meh. I notice major sagging in the new efests I own..I don't think I'll buy the 35Amp. My sony's work wonderfully.

 

[stoprealones]

A battery pack is more than one battery, typically two with mods, and they're typically lithium polymer batteries. They can be in series(doubles voltage) or parallel (doubles capacity/mAh rating). The poly-litho batteries offer high continuous ratings paired up with high capacities, and they are in a smaller package.

Batteries typically last about a year. I'd be surprised if you get much longer than that with a battery built in.. from most not being able to let battery drain all the way. So 300-500 charges per battery (single or pack).

Edit- check out the specific threads for them. Happy users on both sides. Any issues get taken care of.
Hana mini is 1100mAh.. battery pack($15.. I'm sure you could figure out an upgrade, but I would wait for warranty to end). Full size is an 18650.. only 30Amp available is sony (2100mAh)..I guess efest has a 35Amp...meh. I notice major sagging in the new efests I own..I don't think I'll buy the 35Amp. My sony's work wonderfully.

You're right on the built in batt.-only lasted for one year before having to send it back in. I've been reading much more on the boards and also watching some vids to get an up close presentation of the various devices. Your descriptions,explanation gives me even more info. I really hate the fact that the hana mini is only 1100 mah,but,correct me if I'm wrong,the poly-litho batteries last a bit longer a charge than others? From looking at it all,I think the Hana might be the most solid of the three I mentioned. I wish there were more choices that offered higher mah capacity yet the smaller size. I did also see the opusD,but it only offers a 3month warranty. One more question- with the hana 1100 batt. for a chronic vaporer,how long will the charge last approx.?
Thanks Again for your feedback

 

[stoprealones]

One other thing that has been going through my mind is do I really need a dna 20 or 30 chip in my device based on my present vaping style? I never go above at most 13watts and don't vape lower than a 1.5ohm coil head. If I vape a regulated wattage device,does the dna 20 or 30 offer someone like myself a better quality of vape or would any regulated wattage device do the same based on my vaping style?

 

[suspectK]

Oh the hana v3 mini is 1200mAh*, but I would say a full hour of operation is a good ballpark guess... if you could hold the button down and not let go for a straight hour.

You wouldn't be able to go below 10.7Watts with a 1.5ohm coil. The dna has a minimum voltage of 4Volts.

I recommend finding someone that uses mechanicals. There can be a good bit of voltage drop from some devices, but see if you can try a ~0.6ohm coil. Some love it. Some find it too hot. I use 0.7 ohm coils at the most on everything, but I want that first pull I get from a full battery on every pull. That's why I'm getting into high powered boards.

I would say go ahead and get one... but that is so if you get into higher powered vaping..but if you can try a mechanical, and don't like it, I would look into the semovar. I wish a dna tube was made like the semovar. I can't think of a better built tube mod..

Edit-poly-litho batteries seem to function better in all ranges, less sagging with low or high current outputs, and I trust their mAh rating.

 

[stoprealones]

Oh the hana v3 mini is 1200mAh*, but I would say a full hour of operation is a good ballpark guess... if you could hold the button down and not let go for a straight hour.

You wouldn't be able to go below 10.7Watts with a 1.5ohm coil. The dna has a minimum voltage of 4Volts.

I recommend finding someone that uses mechanicals. There can be a good bit of voltage drop from some devices, but see if you can try a ~0.6ohm coil. Some love it. Some find it too hot. I use 0.7 ohm coils at the most on everything, but I want that first pull I get from a full battery on every pull. That's why I'm getting into high powered boards.

I would say go ahead and get one... but that is so if you get into higher powered vaping..but if you can try a mechanical, and don't like it, I would look into the semovar. I wish a dna tube was made like the semovar. I can't think of a better built tube mod..

Edit-poly-litho batteries seem to function better in all ranges, less sagging with low or high current outputs, and I trust their mAh rating.

I've never liked the too hot experience,and I have tried it.I only owned one mechanical and that was a REO. I loved it,but when I tried even a 2ohm atty on that,I almost died-my whole throat burned up.It took almost a week to recover from it. I generally vape using up to a 2.4ohm head. I read the specs on the hana,and I know nothing over 3.0ohm can be used. I'm just not sold on the 1200 mah on the hanna.........hmm,wish there were more choices,and I'm sure there will be.I would still like to know if the DNA 20 or 30 offer something that's unique to someone like me with my vaping style or would any regulated wattage device accomplish the same goal?
I really love regulated variable wattage vaping and maybe specifically because of the dna 20 experience; I need to probably keep looking or wait a bit to find one that fits my needs as effectively as possible or if I purchase the hana,be prepared to purchase an additional battery pack to use the usb on my person all day-LOL.
It sounds like you found your niche,and that's the crux of successful vaping and staying clear of the cancer sticks. I only hope one day I will find mine,too. I know I will,because I won't stop trying until I get there.Until then,I have to continue my search.
I remember reading this long detailed blog using all the math possible as to why regulated wattage vaping is the best,and I do believe that,since that was the only time I ever quit successfully for the longest period of time or was it specifically the dna 20 regulated wattage experience. I just don't know if it was the dna 20 that was the key there or just the mere fact I was using a regulated variable wattage vaping device.........hmmmmm,would love to know that answer.
So far,the hana has my vote for best build quality from what I've seen in the vids and the opus for its ergonomics and probably build quality,but I couldn't buy a device where the seller won't warranty it for more than 3 months. There have to be more options out there,so if you know of any or learn of any others,please let me know.
Thanks so much for your input; it's been really helpful

 

[rith]

I'd go shark low cost same watt outputs


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[suspectK]

The full hana uses an 18650. Since you won't be using over 20watts, you can use a higher capacity than the sony's available in 2100mAh and 30Amp continuous rating. It is slightly larger. There are side by side pictures on their website and some reviews.

Vaporshark is 1100mAh.. and 22mm atomizers hang over the side.

The protovapor has a mini and full like the hana, but I think the hana is the only one other than the zen with a removable 18mm battery. The zen has 350, 500(or490?), and 650 tubes for different batteries. I could only use the 650 since I'll be above 20watts most of the time.. and I think that looks weird.

I don't know what you mean by the math and regulation. Ohms law? Regulation gives consistent voltage all the way through the battery's charge (with the better mods), from using a boost regulator that pulls more current from battery to give you that constant voltage.

That's weird a 2ohm atomizer is hot for you... I'm not sure about voltage drop on reo, but that's only about 8watts on a full battery. With electrical transmission, higher voltages are used instead of higher currents in transmission lines due to the amount of voltage loss from the heat in using higher currents. I need to brush up on my subatomic and electrical theory, but wattage is work, not necessarily just heat.. can't explain it more specific than that.. I couldn't go back to school this year on account of a newborn in September.