Trying to decide which DNA box(Hanna or vaporshark mod or protovapor,need some HELP in sorting through info.

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I'd go shark low cost same watt outputs



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The thing about the shark that concerns me is that I saw a vid on youtube that showed the internals,and it was a major concern.I understand with this new revision,there is a chance that they also will clean up the internal structural setup. It is tempting because of the price point,but I'm also concerned about the safety with what I saw on that video.
 

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The thing about the shark that concerns me is that I saw a vid on youtube that showed the internals,and it was a major concern.I understand with this new revision,there is a chance that they also will clean up the internal structural setup. It is tempting because of the price point,but I'm also concerned about the safety with what I saw on that video.

Show me the video. I would get the shark because it is about 100 less with the same watts but battery life not sure but I have heard good things about te version 1 shark !


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The full hana uses an 18650. Since you won't be using over 20watts, you can use a higher capacity than the sony's available in 2100mAh and 30Amp continuous rating. It is slightly larger. There are side by side pictures on their website and some reviews.

Vaporshark is 1100mAh.. and 22mm atomizers hang over the side.

The protovapor has a mini and full like the hana, but I think the hana is the only one other than the zen with a removable 18mm battery. The zen has 350, 500(or490?), and 650 tubes for different batteries. I could only use the 650 since I'll be above 20watts most of the time.. and I think that looks weird.

I don't know what you mean by the math and regulation. Ohms law? Regulation gives consistent voltage all the way through the battery's charge (with the better mods), from using a boost regulator that pulls more current from battery to give you that constant voltage.

That's weird a 2ohm atomizer is hot for you... I'm not sure about voltage drop on reo, but that's only about 8watts on a full battery. With electrical transmission, higher voltages are used instead of higher currents in transmission lines due to the amount of voltage loss from the heat in using higher currents. I need to brush up on my subatomic and electrical theory, but wattage is work, not necessarily just heat.. can't explain it more specific than that.. I couldn't go back to school this year on account of a newborn in September.:)

I have no clue why that thing burned me,and I didn't care to know,but it surely did. When I told my friend about it,he could hardly believe me either. Maybe it was the way that I was vaping it. I had never used a bottom feeder before,so maybe that had something to do with it.
I'll look for that article about the wattage article.All I can do is use that cheat sheet for figuring out wattage,voltage,and resistance. Now, I no longer have to do even that as the new devices all do it for you. I really have no real concept of what's going on with the devices,I just know that the dna whatever it was at the time in the darwin helped me stay off cigs,and I would like another device that will duplicate that experience.
I don't know I can even get the hana as there don't seem to be any around. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying about the battery with the hana. Are you talking about the full size hana? Would that last longer than the mini? I thought that it wouldn't because of the battery it uses. Did I miss something?
I was also looking at the opus d as an opportunity came up for me to get one. What do you think of this device? I don't know much about it other than it has the dna 20 and is a very small box mod,which I really like. I also know it is well made,has internal batt,and is 1500 mah.
BTW, congrats on your new baby coming. Is this your first? :)
 

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stoprealones:12403744 said:
I don't know I can even get the hana as there don't seem to be any around. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying about the battery with the hana. Are you talking about the full size hana? Would that last longer than the mini? I thought that it wouldn't because of the battery it uses. Did I miss something?
I was also looking at the opus d as an opportunity came up for me to get one. What do you think of this device? I don't know much about it other than it has the dna 20 and is a very small box mod,which I really like. I also know it is well made,has internal batt,and is 1500 mah.
BTW, congrats on your new baby coming. Is this your first? :)

The full size uses an 18650 battery. The 30 amp ones available are Sony at 2100mAh...I hope that rumor is true on the updated battery pack.. that's a no brainer. That also shows you that the poly-litho batteries seem to be evolving faster than other battery chemistries. The v3 just came out around the new year.

You'll have to check the authorized dealer part of the hana site to find one. They should be getting in stock in the upcoming week(s).

Don't know much at all on the opus d.

And yes, she's my first, born last September Friday the 13th. She's tons of fun.
 

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Show me the video. I would get the shark because it is about 100 less with the same watts but battery life not sure but I have heard good things about te version 1 shark !

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I am going to retract my statement. I cannot find any video that showed the inside; it might have just been a pic on the boards,but because I can't find it,I will not make the statement about it. I apologize for this. I looked at a bunch of youtube vids and could not find anything that showed the inside of it. I actually saw some very postitive reviews other than some minor things that were corrected by the company immediately. I also saw that the company would send a new device so that the person didn't have to wait for their device to be fixed. I just wish it,too,had a higher mah batt.
 

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The full size uses an 18650 battery. The 30 amp ones available are Sony at 2100mAh...I hope that rumor is true on the updated battery pack.. that's a no brainer. That also shows you that the poly-litho batteries seem to be evolving faster than other battery chemistries. The v3 just came out around the new year.

You'll have to check the authorized dealer part of the hana site to find one. They should be getting in stock in the upcoming week(s).

Don't know much at all on the opus d.

And yes, she's my first, born last September Friday the 13th. She's tons of fun.

Babies change lives and are a gift from God to teach and love,and they will end up teaching you,too. You have been blessed!
I will go to the site and see if I can glean some more info.and begin stalking.........LOL
 

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My next purchase will be a higher end tank. I've watched lots of vids on rebuilding and recoiling,so it's time to take the leap. I've been recoiling a ton on the aero tank,protank,etc,but i've never built one of the higher end tanks. If you have a suggestion,it sounds like you're well versed on what's out there.
 

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I like my clones of lite+'s, but I plan on buying a rose and kayfun4 when they come out. Rose has a thread on rebuildable atomizers section in the assorted pv topics forum. I haven't seen anything on kayfun4 since a couple of months ago on it being released sometime in the spring.

I would look into the vacuum tanks like the kayfun lite+ or russian91%. I would also get a dripper, something like the igo-l.
 

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I've heard about the russian 91,but after watching the video,I really can't see myself there yet,if ever. I just can picture myslef using a needle nose to fill or alen wrench. What about the Nautilus;I've heard good things about these,and they're very easy to use. I also heard wonderful things on the Kayfun lite,but I think that would be a lot like the russian 91. In time, I will try those as I get more accustomed to this stuff.I do want to get and an igo-L ,too,for sure. I like those :)
Okay,now I learned that having the full size hana using a ultra fire 5000 or A&W 2900 would give me more time than even the built in improved batt.,if they do that. Can you give me your thoughts on this. I just have no clue about batteries,and need some right now for my provari as the efests I bought don't work well in it.
 

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All the parts make it look a lot more complicated than it is. 91 is the same as lite+. Air control for 91 is allen screw on side. Lite+ is with a flat head screw on bottom. You just wick, place wick on deck over juice channels (there's a lot of back and forth with covering them or just laying wick beside them. I've had the best wicking with 50/50-100% vg by covering them.), screw on evaporation chamber, make sure wick didn't get moved from juice wells, put on the chimney then the rest of the tank, and fill from fill screw on the bottom of base. The extra steps are with it.

The nautalis is practically a protank.. just looks different, plus airflow control.

If you're going to stick with lower power levels, the aw's would be fine. I avoid batteries that aren't from big name companies like Panasonic, Sony, Sanyo/Samsung, etc..aw's are tested cells from those companies.
 
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All the parts make it look a lot more complicated than it is. 91 is the same as lite+. Air control for 91 is allen screw on side. Lite+ is with a flat head screw on bottom. You just wick, place wick on deck over juice channels (there's a lot of back and forth with covering them or just laying wick beside them. I've had the best wicking with 50/50-100% vg by covering them.), screw on evaporation chamber, make sure wick didn't get moved from juice wells, put on the chimney then the rest of the tank, and fill from fill screw on the bottom of base. The extra steps are with it.

The nautalis is practically a protank.. just looks different, plus airflow control.

If you're going to stick with lower power levels, the aw's would be fine. I avoid batteries that aren't from big name companies like Panasonic, Sony, Sanyo/Samsung, etc..aw's are tested cells from those companies.

Really,the nautilus you would compare to a protank? huh..........I think I need to do some more reading. I just don't like the idea of having to to use an allen wrench. I guess if the flavor is that improved maybe I should consider it.
As far as batts. Any particular one(s) you could recommend that last the longest for my provari or z max?
Also, when I called about ordering the hana mini the guy I spoke to was trying to talk me into the regular size and using A&W 2900 and said I'd get a lot more hours out of it even if hana did raise the mah to 2000. I guess that would make sense. I thought there only certain batts you could use. I know you mentioned something about sony batts.I'll need to read that again.
 

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I don't know exactly but I can't figure it would weigh much more than an 18650 battery. perhaps 25-33% more. You have the battery, aluminum chassis, DNA board, buttons, 510 connector and the top and bottom caps.

Ruet,
Sorry I missed your posting. About the XPV, I didn't consider it any longer after I viewed this video:
Protovapor XPV DNA 20 review - YouTube

It may be nothing for many people,but I just couldn't deal with ahving to take the unit apart like he did.
 

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I haven't adjusted my airflow on any of my kayfun systems. I've played around with them, but I always end up back where it was. So you won't be messing with an hex wrench much at all if you go with a 91 version. Some take out airflow screws, but I've found I don't get a good vacuum to allow new liquid to reach wick doing that, not to mention the whistle from essentially creating a woodwind instrument.

The sony's are 2100mAh with 30Amp continuous. AW 2900 are 2900mAh with10Amp continuous.. so I'd you use those, I wouldn't go above 15Watts.
 

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Ruet,
Sorry I missed your posting. About the XPV, I didn't consider it any longer after I viewed this video:
Protovapor XPV DNA 20 review - YouTube

It may be nothing for many people,but I just couldn't deal with ahving to take the unit apart like he did.

But the creator did say this:

Please keep in mind that the issue I had with my 510 has happened to only a few that I have talked to, and the majority have not had problems. Do not try to install a new O ring unless you have this issue. Don't let it disuade you from getting this awesome mod. Get this over the Vaporshark!

That being said, I understand your apprehension. In the end you have to come to your own conclusion based on the information you have available.
 
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