TW Screwdriver MKII-Old Things are New Again

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tinstar15

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Way back when e-cigs were still a relatively new gizmo on the market, a guy named Trog introduced one of the first "mods". It provided a substantially longer battery life compared to the existing e-cig batteries of the time (the eGo wasn't born yet). It would become known as the Screwdriver or SD Mark I, and so named because it's appearance is that of a regular screwdriver. The original was considered to be an excellent mod. The original switch proved twitchy to one degree or another. Then came the mechanical switch model, the SD MKII. For a time, they were considered by some as the holy grail of e-cig battery systems.

DSE manufactured the 905 model with 4 different versions (if memory serves), which was the next evolution of the SD mod. There were reports of various problems with the system, hence the version updates.

Well, that was then and this is now. Variable voltage, self-feeding, larger capacity mods of all shapes and sizes are available now from several makers. Why choose the SD when compared next to these ?

Simple answer, the price. At least that was one factor that led me to pick two of them up.

The order was placed during TW's yo-yo promotion. I got them both for an insanely low price at the time. The items shipped promptly and were well packaged.

I picked up one SD MKII in black, the other in silver.

The other factor for me, was that I had a half dozen 18350 batteries which have been sitting relatively unused since I retired my DSE601 e-pipes. I figured since I had a stack of 18350s I would be ahead of the game. I was partially mistaken.

The SD MKII does use 18350 batteries. Unfortunately the 601 batteries are slightly different from the SD batteries. The SD batteries have the plastic label/coating covering a good portion of the -terminal. 601 batteries do not. When a 601 battery is used in the silver SD, it completes the circuit and activates the atomizer. Oddly enough, this didn't happen with the black SD. Upon examination, the black SD had a black powder coat finish on the inside as well. This was apparently sufficient enough to prevent the battery from activating the circuit.

I took a section of black electrical tape and applied it, sticky side out, to one of the 601 batteries. I then inserted it into the lower half of the silver SD body. I then removed the battery and pressed the tape to fully adhere it to the interior of the body. It completely lined the battery shelf area and prevented any - terminal contact with the body unless the button was depressed.

So far I have used the device for a few days and have found it to be as reliable as any other mod. The device is a native 901 atty style. I, personally, do not prefer this atty. I prefer 510s and other 510 based attys. I use the device with a stainless 901 to 510 adapter. On the silver SD, it looks completely normal. The polished exterior of the SD matched perfectly to the silver adapter and to the chrome colored Boge attys with Super T drip tip that I use. The black SD is being used with a 901 to 510 adapter and modified (shortened) eGo cartos.

Both the black and silver SD's have performed as they should, lasting roughly 10 hours of use per battery. The 18350s provided by TW and the generic 18350s from my 601 are all rated at 900mah. I have not checked the device with a meter at this time, but it has functioned as well as my other mods. The button is smooth and light, easily and comfortably activated. It settles nicely into the hand and use is perfectly natural to me, as most of the mods I use are bottom buttons.

If you are on the fence, debating whether or not to pick one up, I would say "Go for it". It is one of the least expensive mods on the market now, and when combined with the savings from the "yo-yo promo" that TW is currently running, it is really a good deal.

Downsides are (to me) the 901 atty being the devices preferred atty and the relatively difficult nature of the batterys used. The 18350s are not as commonly available as 14500s or 18500s or just about any other rechargeable battery. They can be found for cheap at various sites that carry 601s or from TW (currently out of stock). The 601 style batteries require insulating the interior of the device, but it can't be seen from the outside of the device and doesn't really require all that much effort. Another downside is that a separate cap is required to cover the button to keep it from pocket firing. The cap is provided with some kits, but not with the "body only" version sold on TWs site. The cap can be attached to one of the lanyard holes in the SD's body. It dangles when attached and used, but this doesn't really bother me much.

Hope someone finds this useful, Happy Holidays.

Tinstar:vapor:
 
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MuddyWaterMan

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Found it very helpful. I should have mine in a few days (yo-yo madness) and was still unsure as there are a lot of mixed reviews. I am currently using my 808's and my Steampunk Sparkplug with Vapornine cartomizers and bought this to take it's place so all good reviews are nice to hear. Can't wait to put it through some tests! Thanks for the post.
 

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I've had mine since october and i like it alot, i do have two complaints, one is that in order for mine to work optimally i have to clean it around once a week, done so with an alcohol pad. works great. the other is the switch constantly screws itself off. I've lost two switches and two springs this way. I would have glued it in place but then you can't clean the bottom which is sometimes necessary on my weekly cleaning this is not me being .... its just how my unit works i think. I did remedy the problem with a 15 cent nut from the hardware store which screws on tight and does not move with out the use of an analogue screwdriver and a 99cent spring. I just didn't want to pay TW 6 bucks a month for a new spring a switch. other than that great product and pv
 

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I have returned to using my SD MKI (with the newer switch) regularly during the day at work. It's light, uses 16340 batts, reliable, and has a 510 connection. I have a black, "copper", and SS one. I actually dropped the SS one on my gravel drive and cringed at the damage. The SD is a classic design and fits my hand very nicely. I have a MKII also, but prefer the MKI because it is native 510 and is slimmer in size.
 

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A lot of interesting points made. I haven't had trouble with the button unscrewing since I used a very small amount of Lock-tite thread locker on mine as soon as I received it. Shortly after getting my first mods, I decided to use small amounts of lock-tite on anything that I didn't want coming loose. By way of example, I put a small dot of lock-tite on the bottom threads of my friend's Icon to keep it from unscrewing from the main housing when turning the locking ring on the switch. It still comes off without tools when necessary. It just requires a smidge more effort.

I put the same tiny dot of lock-tite on the SD's switch screw, let it dry overnight, then screwed it back together. It won't come loose unless I use a real screwdriver and a small rubber jar opener pad to hold the button.

An interesting little discovery, the SD is not a sealed battery unit. It doesn't flood if you accidentally flood your atty while dripping, but it can get a little juice into it after a while. I found it easy to clean out with a kleenex or q-tip though. I really flooded one atty of mine which is notorious for allowing juice to flow through it like a hose. I found a really tiny dot of juice on the interior while cleaning it up. A few seconds with a piece of napkin took care of it. Just something to keep in mind if you're a dripper.

I did check on the 18350's from Madvapes (an excellent supplier BTW) but saw a comment on them indicating that they were too long to fit in someone else's SD MKII. As I'm well stocked on 601 batts, I didn't really see much reason to order any.

This brings up another point. The TW site says that the batteries they carry are safe. Now I'm no expert, but I don't think these cells are protected. I say this since every site that carries protected 18350s say that they are about a 1/4" longer than unprotected cells. If protected cells are longer and, according to the review on MV that they are too long to fit the SD, these must be unprotected. I don't know if this is a big safety issue or not.

I did find that the bodies of the SD MKII are aluminum. The silvers are chrome plated and the black ones are hard powder coated finish. Both finishes are well executed and I am very pleased with their appearances.

I should have put these in the original post, but they slipped my mind. For beginners in the Mod world who are looking for an inexpensive first mod, I think these will do the trick. They don't have to spend a hundred or so just to find out if it will be for them.

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Nice review!

I use my MK2 nearly all time and like you use 510 attys (of the low resistance type :2cool:)

I have had the button come loose a couple of times but always noticed in time to tighten, so nice tip to put a drop of lock-tite on!

I still have a couple of old ones from trog in my collection ha-ha!

I think the batteries are meant to be a safer chemistry rather than a protection circuit? As you say the normal protected ones have a little extra bit on the bottom which contains the protection circuit thingamajig (technical term!)

I lost my cap to stop the button being pressed within hours, as I didn`t want the cord hanging around getting in the way all the time, so my own fault! Now I just have to be careful as have had hot pocket syndrome before and it isn`t pleasant!:-x
 

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OK so I got may MKII in and so far pretty happy! I ordered some adapters to run my 808 cartos on it as I just can't seem to get the vapor production I want with the attys. Also might try my mega tornado carto on it when I get home in a week! 2.5 ml cartowith a 6-8 hour battery? Heaven I say!


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I did find out that if you take a 901 to 901/808 carto adapter (small short one) and attach the 901 to 510 adapter, it makes a closer fit with unmodified XL eGo cartos. Once the adapters are all together, the carto will fit with a small gap. I used a thin delrin washer I found in my misc junk pile in the garage to fill the gap. Got the adapters from Madvapes.
 

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re: losing the button

If you unscrew the two halves of the body and look down inside the lower half, you'll see that the internal bolt of the button mechanism has a slot for a regular screwdriver. Stick one down there, then hold the black button on the outside (the thing you press) with pliers or your teeth or whatever and tighten it. No more lost button.

re: cleaning

I've found after awhile some sort of gunk collects on the bolt head of the button mechanism. I'm not sure what it is. I once thought it was some sort of battery leakage (possibly being caused by using a 510LR). Now I'm thinking it's liquid leaking through (from direct dripping) and possibly being cooked onto the bolt by the battery. Anyhow, after anything from a few days to a few weeks, my SDMKII stops getting a reliable connection. Cleaning it inside and out with alcohol doesn't do anything. But disassembling it and physically scraping the bolt-head with a knife/screwdriver until it is shiny does.
 
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