UK: E-Cigarettes "...can cause more harm than smoking."

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...rm-smoking-experts-say.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Ok, granted: this is from a British tabloid, hardly well-regarded for their journalistic integrity. But note the headline, then try to find it in the body of text. It ain't there. Who do we attribute it to?

"Experts." Nameless, faceless.

Presumably, Elisabeth Pott bases her claim of "acute respiratory system irritation" on the agenda-laden Athens study in which measurable, if insignificant airway restriction was observed. But run that through the ANTZ propaganda apparatus and it becomes acute—and taking the headline into account, cigarettes cause no such effect.

 

[Ken62]

Do a google search for "can cause more harm than smoking."

Not only do we get an uninformed jackwad spouting off untested nonsense, we get pages and pages of media parrots reporting these "facts".

Disgraceful

 

[Petrodus]

One of the Comments ...

Which experts? Dr Elisabeth Pott,? Basically saying cigarette smoke is better for you than e-cigarette vapour? What a load of rubbish. The Propylene glycol is the stuff disco fog machines use and is licensed for indoor use. I have never seen people burst out coughing from them. According to these experts if cigarette smoke would be better, imagine a disco fog machine using smoke from a fire. Everyone would be on the floor in coughing fits. Please back up your claims, which experts think smoking is cigarettes is less harmful than e-cigarettes. An analogy would be breathing in steam vapour from a kettle as opposed to smoke from a fire. You dont have to try to know which one is more dangerous. Experts, really???

 

[Petrodus]

A Comment from Germany

In all Countries the same. We have here in Germany the same Problems.
With stupid Journalism. Fight for your right to vape.
All the best for my vaping friends all over the World
keep fighting for a better life.

 

[TennDave]

I've commented- actually more than once!

 

[Petrodus]

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[Kurt]

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Genius!

I wonder if they are going to get sued by GSK for this. Thanks for linking this, Petrodus!

 

[tommy2bad]

Lazy, stupid, inaccurate – the Mail on Sunday on e-cigarettes « Clive Bates blog

Wonder how this will go?
The Daily Mail is owned by a consortium of whom pharma companies are major shareholders.
Who pays the piper.....

 

[Gluggler]

There is something you can do about it - complain to the Press Complaints Commission (which oversees British newspapers)

Details on how to do it here - Complain the the PCC about the Mail on Sunday - easy to do

 

[TennDave]

Well, I clicked for the article and it doesn't exist anymore. I wonder if it was taken down?

 

[Petrodus]

Well, I clicked for the article and it doesn't exist anymore. I wonder if it was taken down?

Yeah ... the article in the original post is no longer on-line.
Found this article with the same title
Click Here

 

[tommy2bad]

Yes taken down following complaints to the press complaints commission.
If the complaints are successful the Mail will have to print a retraction and correcting article.

 

[River]

Heh, dailymail.... let me guess, ancient aliens sold batboy a pv.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

EDIT Already posted

 

[jtpjc]

Daily Mail apologises:

http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/a...e-story.html?awt_l=AbRE.&awt_m=JYCr1NEJkU8Eb4

 

[Kurt]

Daily Mail apologises:

http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/a...e-story.html?awt_l=AbRE.&awt_m=JYCr1NEJkU8Eb4

Oh, snap! This may be a first. Good on the DM for correcting this! Now if we could get other publishers from printing lame articles in the first place.

 

[Berylanna]

I've been hoping someone would turn one of these articles or quotes around. Like "FDA says Cigarettes are Mostly Harmless" --
if they have been given evidence that e-cigs are mostly harmless and they say that ecigs are not a safe alternative to smoking, then hasn't the FDA said cigarettes are probably nearly harmless? Who else is saying this stuff?

How about a headline "American Lung Association Says Smoking is Almost Harmless" -- does anybody have proof they have mailed studies to the ALA showing the near-harmlessness if e-cigs? 'Cause if so, the following statement from the ALA at

E-cigarettes: Another Option to Help You Quit Smoking? - American Lung Association

If e-cigarettes sound too good to be true, that's because they probably are. With a dearth of rigorous studies on their safety and effectiveness, experts are increasingly concerned that e-cigarettes may do little to help you stop smoking -- and may actually do more harm than good.

.....amounts to saying combustible cigarettes 'may actually' be harmless.

 

[Vaptor]

Wouldn't surprise me if they come up with a new study that smoking is not really that bad in desperation to keep up the tobacco sales.

 

[Vocalek]

I've been hoping someone would turn one of these articles or quotes around. Like "FDA says Cigarettes are Mostly Harmless" --
if they have been given evidence that e-cigs are mostly harmless and they say that ecigs are not a safe alternative to smoking, then hasn't the FDA said cigarettes are probably nearly harmless? Who else is saying this stuff?

How about a headline "American Lung Association Says Smoking is Almost Harmless" -- does anybody have proof they have mailed studies to the ALA showing the near-harmlessness if e-cigs? 'Cause if so, the following statement from the ALA at

E-cigarettes: Another Option to Help You Quit Smoking? - American Lung Association


.....amounts to saying combustible cigarettes 'may actually' be harmless.

Hmmm.... This is encouraging (maybe). I clicked the link and got a "Page Not Found" result.

 

[Vocalek]

Are my eyes deceiving me?

I did a search on "e-cigarettes" on the American Lung Association web site. This was one of the results.

The Addiction That Defies Reason - American Lung Association

E-Cigarette Controversy

Electronic cigarettes, or e-cigarettes, deliver a puff of vapor formed from liquid nicotine and aerosol mist, but no tar, formaldehyde, carbon monoxide, or other harmful chemicals in cigarettes. Some smokers rely on e-cigarettes, or “vaping,” to cut down on or quit smoking.

E-cigarette detractors argue that vaping actually diminishes people’s motivation to quit smoking, and that only nicotine gum and patches should be used as stop-smoking aids. The Food and Drug Administration’s attempt to have e-cigarettes labeled as drug-delivery devices failed last year, but the agency continues to warn that their safely has not been verified, and that they may entice young people to smoke.

E-cigarette proponents maintain that these devices may in some cases accomplish what no amount of hectoring, taxing, frightening images of people smoking through a tracheotomy, or banishing from public places can do: help people quit.

E-cigarettes worked for Darrin Gold, 41, a southern California real estate agent who happened upon an electronic cigarette kit at 7-11 almost a year ago when he stopped in to replenish his cigarette supply as had been his intractable habit for 27 years.

It appears that the above text may be from a news story in the LosAlamitos-SealBeachPatch. The fact that it isn't anti-ecigarette must have escaped the ALA editors.