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Red Bull gives you wings. Caffeine is addictive, but its not cutting into payouts from the tobacco settlement, nor is it generating sin tax revenue.
They can't give me the "nicotine is addictive" angle. BS. Kids these days could potentially benefit from the effects of nicotine! Enhanced mood, stronger mental attention, increased metabolism. Meanwhile, little Timmy can slam 52 Monster energy big chugs and nobody bats an eye.
Let 'em vape. We're goin to hell anyway.
I don' really care.
It's not something high on my list of things to think about.
I guess they could be doing worse things, thing's that might negatively affect me for example.
It's not something high on my list of things to think about.
I guess they could be doing worse things, thing's that might negatively affect me for example.
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Hell, I was sneaking cigarettes at 12 years old. You could go into the corner store and buy 3 for five cents (1958). Kids will try things that's just how it is.
I can think of a lot worse things they could be trying.....and probably will if they haven't already 
I'm not in favor of the Guberment being involved in anything if that is what you are asking. Beyond that, I do not advocate that non smokers vape. In regard to nicotine, I wish I was not addicted to it. I don't like being tethered to anything. I do share my opinions with adolescents and then they do what the will. I am not so ignorant that I feel I should have control over their lives.
I used to participate rigorously in these type of threads. It has become an endless topic that I know it will come again at least once a month in any given forum I am a member of... In the end, vape is just an addition to endless stupid things kids will try to determine their individuality as an adult.
Underage vaping - I don't care. If the parent (if one or more parent is around and involved with the children) are unable or unwilling to teach their children then passing a law may or, most likely, may not change behavior. Government is not a parent although there is an uncomfortable number of people who would make it so. Almost all of the societal ills that we we want to legislate out of existence are, at the core, parental failures - not societal failure but rather individual parental failure.
If they think it's cooler than smoking..Then that's a good thing..
I ranked this post both funny and true.
I am a realist, so I don't care. Not in the sense of if it should be legalized or not (although I don't much care about that either.) My kiddo was smoking and asked to vape at 17. I let him. As far as I'm concerned, if a teen is adult enough to admit to smoking illegally and to ask for a harm reduction product, they should get it. The majority of older smokers started before 18 because it was so culturally in place it was easy to do.
Perhaps one day vaping can be the same, is my hope. My realistic self also says that the teen stealing a juul to go suck on it with their friends is not great, but better than smoking.
I don't think that should impact ANY legislation about vaping because a given subset of teens IN ANY generation is going to BREAK ALL THE RULES and that includes vaping. It should be roundly ignored.
I also told my kid if he was dumb with his vape and got caught doing anything dumb, l would "participate" with him, in the sense of whatever Juvenile Stuff/Laws/treatment they could dish out but I would not be best pleased and he should use his vape responsibly.
Which as far as I know he did. I had the distinct displeasure of participating in Juvenile (and adult) services with him to knock some sense into his slightly conduct disordered skill. It was TOTALLY worth it and as a rule breaking teen myself I certainly have a certain amount of sympathy AND a night in jail, 90 months probation and expunging and adult felony was GOOD for his little soul.
I am proud to report he went to a bar last night, and used a Lyft driver to get home.
He got in trouble for driving at18 on 16 hits of acid, so to quote an old slogan, "We've come a long way, baby."
Sometimes rule breaking teens need to BREAK some RULES, I for sure did, and I for sure wound up with consequences, not legal ones but ones that sucked nonetheless.
So I don't much care about vaping, ,but society will do what it will do. It's unfortunate that the rule breakers get USED so everyone gets consequences, but if that's the society you got and you don't want it RISE UP AND VOTE AND NOT FOR ......s. Etc.
Anna
Perhaps one day vaping can be the same, is my hope. My realistic self also says that the teen stealing a juul to go suck on it with their friends is not great, but better than smoking.
I don't think that should impact ANY legislation about vaping because a given subset of teens IN ANY generation is going to BREAK ALL THE RULES and that includes vaping. It should be roundly ignored.
I also told my kid if he was dumb with his vape and got caught doing anything dumb, l would "participate" with him, in the sense of whatever Juvenile Stuff/Laws/treatment they could dish out but I would not be best pleased and he should use his vape responsibly.
Which as far as I know he did. I had the distinct displeasure of participating in Juvenile (and adult) services with him to knock some sense into his slightly conduct disordered skill. It was TOTALLY worth it and as a rule breaking teen myself I certainly have a certain amount of sympathy AND a night in jail, 90 months probation and expunging and adult felony was GOOD for his little soul.
I am proud to report he went to a bar last night, and used a Lyft driver to get home.
He got in trouble for driving at18 on 16 hits of acid, so to quote an old slogan, "We've come a long way, baby."
Sometimes rule breaking teens need to BREAK some RULES, I for sure did, and I for sure wound up with consequences, not legal ones but ones that sucked nonetheless.
So I don't much care about vaping, ,but society will do what it will do. It's unfortunate that the rule breakers get USED so everyone gets consequences, but if that's the society you got and you don't want it RISE UP AND VOTE AND NOT FOR ......s. Etc.
Anna
I would prefer they vape instead of smoke. I would rather they didn't do either, but that's not going to happen is it? I think we should still make it hard for them to have unfettered access to vaping, but less so than cigarettes. Not sure how to accomplish that.
Mixed feeling. I smoked cigs regularly from 10 and 1/2 years old (yep you read that correctly) so if someone is going to go down that road then I'm for vaping vs analogs.
In a perfect world, they'd wait until they were legal before making those decisions. HOWEVER - we all know that there is a certain segment of folks (I was one of them) that is going to do "stuff' at a young age.
So I'd rather have my young kid vape than smoke analogs.
In a perfect world, they'd wait until they were legal before making those decisions. HOWEVER - we all know that there is a certain segment of folks (I was one of them) that is going to do "stuff' at a young age.
So I'd rather have my young kid vape than smoke analogs.
I'm with Chellie as far as starting to smoke at a young age - smoked my first when I was 6 or 7 by the time I was about the same age, 10-1/2 I was buying them regularly. I did a lot of things before I should have and now I look back at what an idiot I was. Young people don't listen so what can you do, I'd prefer to see them vaping without nicotine and if they are doing it because their friends are doing it, maybe there is a better chance of that. With the hammering of anti everything I'm somewhat surprised that kids would want to vape.
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