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DeviLFisH

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A brief preview of upcoming reviews and demos including my Sedansa Diva 3 week update and re-review, and first impressions of the Janty Kissbox Batch 4.
And, introducing my Smoke Scale and Puff Counter. ;) (Smoke Scale and Puff Counter (r) TM and (c) Leaford) ;)

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:oops:I envy u ..

u got the most best e cigarette out there

ya and tips how to get most out of ur penstyle !

to get more vapour and constant
 

trog100

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M8, I have enjoyed watching some of your videos, but think they board with crazy geometric patterns maybe wont do the job correctly, it may be hard to tell with light conditions, angles of exhalation etc.... What about blowing into a glass jar to look at the smoke, then you will have it captured and have a better look ?

not a bad idea that.. also dont inhale.. lung absorption is another variable that needs to be gotten rid of...

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Just one point abotu tryign to judge cartridge length/time- Two poitns actually- new atomizers will go logner, and two, I've had cartridges go for 430 full puffs (5 second inhales), but htey were quite dry at the end, and I suspect it didn't do my atomizers any good by smoking hte cartridges until they were that dry- but hte thing is, the cartridges were still producing very good to good vapor even at 400 puffs. Then, as hte atomizers prepriming wore off, the cartridges didn't last nearly that long anymore, and I would say they now average abotu from 25- to 300/325 somewhere around there. Soem cartridges for soem reason only last abotu 150 to 200 or so full puffs while others fro mthe same batch will go quite a bit longer if I want to push hte isse- which I don't care to do anymore- preferign to change carts when taste diminishes.

Just a heads up about pushign carts to the end- the atomizer might suffer because of it. And yes, I agree with D- the videos are great, and we all really appreciate what you've done.
 

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naz.. i drip or simply top up all mine.. whilst accepting some carts can deliver the goods.. its in such an inconsistent and unreliable way i simple never use them as intended.. they dont all come with same amount of liquid in them.. this can vary by over 50%..

syringing the buggers confirms this.. some hold roughly what they should some only half what they should.. some give up most of what they hold some give up long before this..

a 901 cart gives up 60% of what it holds at best.. this i find good but the carts are to small to be cost effective.. it seems small carts give up more of their contents than larger ones..

another test for leaford.. how much is left in the cart before the smoke drops off too much.. how much wastage is there..

as an example.. its possible to get ten drops of liquid into a 901 cart... when the wool is new and bone dry.. after a single use its not possible to get any more than 6 drops in.. this dosnt matter how the cart is filled its simply down to the fact 4 drops are left in the cart never to come out..

with an njoy cart price.. let me work it out... he he he

20 drops equals 1 milliliter... assuming the cart to be 100% full. (often they are not) this equals 25 cents per drop.. or 1 dollar per 4 drops...

u know the dollar aint worth much any more but wasting one very time a cart is used is of some relevance..

forgive me for taking the piss.. or at least seeming like i am.. but sometimes i cant help it.. he he he

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dont forget the "how hard to draw factor".. your how many five second puffs is spot on for battery run time ..

keep up the good work

trog
I'm having trouble finding a vacuum pressure gauge which is sensitive enough. Everything I can find has a range of 0 to 30 INch Hg. Whattever an Hg is. Sucking by mouth, I can barely get the needle up to 5 in hg, and there are no indicators between 0 and 5, that's all one range on the dial. SO, I need a 0-5 in hg gauge.
 

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What about blowing into a glass jar to look at the smoke, then you will have it captured and have a better look ?
I thought about that and/or a platic bag, but It would still just be a visual judgement on the volume and density, and this stuff dissapates too fast, so you wouldn't have any more time to view it. Best to stick to real world conditions.

not a bad idea that.. also dont inhale.. lung absorption is another variable that needs to be gotten rid of...

trog
To the contrary, judging the smoke AFTER normal inhalation is part of the process. In real life we DO inhale, so not to inhale under testing conditions would give skewed relults.


Just one point abotu tryign to judge cartridge length/time-...
Yeah, if you push a cart you can get more out of it. Also, you can fuss with the cart, like squishing ti down and pulling it back up, or turning the wool around, etc etc etc. I'm interested in normal use without fussing or trying to drag the last drop out. When the smoke drops below what I consider acceptable the cart is dead for testing purposes.

But cartridgtes vary too much between themselves, and don't vary enough from brand to brand, to really play into device reviews. The only significant difference between a Njoy cartridge and a Janty cartridge (excluding the HD carts) is how it fits in the device. Cartridge life info is something I may as well collect while I'm counting, but it's not a very important measurement to me when reviewing the e-cigs. It's more useful when cosidering the difference between a mini and a pen than between two pens.
 

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Leaford you seem like a pretty upfront guy and dont seem affilatiated to anything.

You have tried so many many devices that you must have a very good bearings to what actual works the best..

With most comparisons, people tend to find a default product to comapre against, what is your best product over the long run ?

Can you use this as a comparative product to evaluate others against, given price etc..

As I dont feel an exhalation amount means that much, any decent product should give more than enough smoke, my DSE901 seems to be more that potent enough at most times, though it can be a little random...

To me what is more important is:

Consistancy of exhalation

Quality of inhalation

Battery life

Atomiser Life

Cost

I think you were doing very well with your first bench marks, I feel the chalk marked board maybe wont be so beneficial...

Anyways your videos are excellent, most others on you tube just seem like sales medium, you seem to be genuine in attempting to evaluate these devices, keep up the good work :)
 

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Leaford you seem like a pretty upfront guy and dont seem affilatiated to anything.

You have tried so many many devices that you must have a very good bearings to what actual works the best..

With most comparisons, people tend to find a default product to comapre against, what is your best product over the long run ?

Can you use this as a comparative product to evaluate others against, given price etc..

As I dont feel an exhalation amount means that much, any decent product should give more than enough smoke, my DSE901 seems to be more that potent enough at most times, though it can be a little random...

To me what is more important is:

Consistancy of exhalation

Quality of inhalation

Battery life

Atomiser Life

Cost

I think you were doing very well with your first bench marks, I feel the chalk marked board maybe wont be so beneficial...

Anyways your videos are excellent, most others on you tube just seem like sales medium, you seem to be genuine in attempting to evaluate these devices, keep up the good work :)
:confused:sorry what u mean here?
 

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:confused:sorry what u mean here?

I mean that maybe it isnt necesary for him to use such means to express exhalation, he is used to using so many products that simply the review process he previously said he was about to introduce would be ample..

Through my little use so far, I imagine it would be very hard to do what he is planning to do, the devices seem a little random and do not give out a standard exhalation time after time.. An in use over given time period as he is doing with his sedansa is probably a better real use review method!
 

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I mean that maybe it isnt necesary for him to use such means to express exhalation, he is used to using so many products that simply the review process he previously said he was about to introduce would be ample..

Through my little use so far, I imagine it would be very hard to do what he is planning to do, the devices seem a little random and do not give out a standard exhalation time after time.. An in use over given time period as he is doing with his sedansa is probably a better real use review method!

I not sure :oops: but personally I feel each different types of design/model of e cigarette got their own pro and cons here.

for example like classic penstyle vs dsc 901 .

for a hardcore smoker.

from what I gather and viewing fellow smokers in here mention.

classic penstyle battery last abit longer , cart wise some claim one cart can last one whole day , whereas some hardcore claim two cart per day.

whereas 901 , those normal average smokers claim battery and cart can also last for one day .."this depend how often he smoke , the timing of the day to smoke is it the same when he smoke real cigarette?" if one day he smoke only 10 sticks this is possible.

but 901 look more like ciggs ....
next vapour wise I not sure ..presently I only own penstyle
from what I saw on youtube /videos ppl demo 901 , the vapour is roughly the same what I got from my classic penstyle.

but I feel 901 not easily get hot on atomiser..I like the design there is one small hole on it atomiser

whereas penstyle don;t have .
 

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trying not to be too .... here leaford but visually judging the smoke production of the device should be done without the variable of lung abortion.. we need to see the the amount of smoke the device actually produces to be of value not the very variable amount thats left after some or all of its has been absorbed by the lungs..

the fact we all inhale has no bearing on this.. how long we hold it in our lungs does have a direct bearing on the visible smoke on the exhale.. the longer the vapour is held in the lungs the less there is visible on the exhale..

why include this variable when u dont have to..

but its u doing the testing not me so its your choice.. i am just making comment.. as i said keep up the good work

as for the "how hard to draw" factor your own subjective judgment would be okay by me.. i place a high value on the easy draw.. i hate having to suck with the power of ten elephants to get results..

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