Upper power limit (for avoiding burnt coils / wicks)

[Imfallen_Angel]

Well, the one dna mod I have, if I set it to 420 degrees, it GOES there (or it seems like it) after one slow priming puff. It's certainly possible I didn't set it up correctly, but I have had that experience if I leave my temperatures too high. So, IDK. It's probably me, not my mod, but setting it up in the right TC and using that ceiling didn't work, at least on that mod. I should probably try it in another mod to see if it's across the board and etc.

Anna

What I'm saying is that the number itself is pretty meaningless, you're telling your mod to cut off at the point that you are setting (using that number), but that cut-off is a TRC value according to the coil that you placed in your tank.

If you were to put another deck with a totally different build, what your settings are for one build, will not work for another build, simply because the parameters have changed.

The number is simply an easier way to do the settings as people understand degrees, but if you'd be doing the settings by the amount of curvature for the TRC value (which is what you actually are doing), most people would scratch their heads and be completely confused.

 

[vapdivrr]

I'm grateful that getting a good vape for me is more interesting than just dropping in random builds that might or might not deliver and I'll use whatever tools I can to help getting there.

to many variables imo, even the way someone draws. The only and best way is trial and error and that's what rebuilding is all about and part of the fun imo....vaping is, should be a basic means to stop smoking and should only take a couple months to find what works, not some rocket science way to get to another galaxy. That's my opinion anyways and who am I to say what works for you, but I think sometimes people can over think things a bit to much. I guess what really matters is whatever gets you not thinking or smoking is the right thing and just go for it, good luck



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[ScottP]

What I'm saying is that the number itself is pretty meaningless, you're telling your mod to cut off at the point that you are setting (using that number), but that cut-off is a TRC value according to the coil that you placed in your tank.

If you were to put another deck with a totally different build, what your settings are for one build, will not work for another build, simply because the parameters have changed.

The number is simply an easier way to do the settings as people understand degrees, but if you'd be doing the settings by the amount of curvature for the TRC value (which is what you actually are doing), most people would scratch their heads and be completely confused.

That's not quite accurate. As long as you use the same wire, the TCR will be the same. Even using different wires you then only have to change the material for settings.

For instance I currently have a 3mm 26ga SS316L coil in each of 4 different toppers. One each of Serpent SMM tank, Smok TF-RTA tank, Hadaly dripper, Entheon dripper. I do not change 1 single setting when swapping between these despite the fact there is some resistance difference between them due to deck resistance and number of wraps etc. If I were to put 2mm or 4mm coil in one of them, I still wouldn't need to change a single setting. If I switched to Titanium, the ONLY setting I would need to change is from the mod using SS to using Titanium as the material.

I should point out that these results are with the DNA 75C board, and that other boards may not do TC as accurately as a DNA board.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

That's not quite accurate. As long as you use the same wire, the TCR will be the same. Even using different wires you then only have to change the material for settings.

For instance I currently have a 3mm 26ga SS316L coil in each of 4 different toppers. One each of Serpent SMM tank, Smok TF-RTA tank, Hadaly dripper, Entheon dripper. I do not change 1 single setting when swapping between these despite the fact there is some resistance difference between them due to deck resistance and number of wraps etc. If I were to put 2mm or 4mm coil in one of them, I still wouldn't need to change a single setting. If I switched to Titanium, the ONLY setting I would need to change is from the mod using SS to using Titanium as the material.

I should point out that these results are with the DNA 75C board, and that other boards may not do TC as accurately as a DNA board.

If you are building identical coils, and the tanks are very similar, the adjustments are going to be minor.

My point is more about that the "temperature" is an illusion, what one is setting is the cut-off point of the TRC's value, set according to the metal's value at the level that ones prefer.

And 2 or 4 mm won't matter if you're using the same type, length and gauge of wire.. but change the metal mass and you will have to re-balance your settings as your resistance will be different, unless you're not locking your resistance and fly on the measured ratio change.

 

[ScottP]

If you are building identical coils, and the tanks are very similar, the adjustments are going to be minor.

My point is more about that the "temperature" is an illusion, what one is setting is the cut-off point of the TRC's value, set according to the metal's value at the level that ones prefer.

And 2 or 4 mm won't matter if you're using the same type, length and gauge of wire.. but change the metal mass and you will have to re-balance your settings as your resistance will be different, unless you're not locking your resistance and fly on the measured ratio change.

No you won't. That's the whole point of TC. I could take 2 Serpent SMM tanks and put that single strand coil in one and take three strands of the same wire and twist it to make a 3 strand twisted wire coil essentially TRIPLING the mass and I wouldn't have to change a single setting when switching back and forth. The mod in TC mode adjusts the wattage automatically for you. The only thing you MIGHT need to change would be the max initial wattage, if you had it set too low. But once you set it for the higher coil, you can leave it switching back and will never need to adjust it again.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

No you won't. That's the whole point of TC. I could take 2 Serpent SMM tanks and put that single strand coil in one and take three strands of the same wire and twist it to make a 3 strand twisted wire coil essentially TRIPLING the mass and I wouldn't have to change a single setting when switching back and forth. The mod in TC mode adjusts the wattage automatically for you. The only thing you MIGHT need to change would be the max initial wattage, if you had it set too low. But once you set it for the higher coil, you can leave it switching back and will never need to adjust it again.

ok well, you're going back to this and I refuse to debate this moot point, that is not the point I was making whatsoever... so just never mind.