US shipping cutoff dates - USPS, Fedex & UPS

[pt91]

Not sure What's Up with mL_Finger. Maybe I Don't even want to know.

But I just did a Test FT Order and things seemed Normal.

And then there is this...

Notice--the US vape shipping methods are temporarily normal: FastTech Forums

In the last few days FT has become "calmer". I have made 5 orders in the last few weeks and the ones in the middle had the One thing that was delayed a few days. CS send me notes asking if I wanted a GF so they could ship the rest of the order. They were hurrying to get things out. The last few days I was the one that was suggesting changes if something was delayed. My last order was yesterday and is moving as usual.
Hopefully it stays this way but I am not counting on it.
Already I probably had enough hardware for many years but after all my panic orders recently I better live to be 100! The only parts I wish I had more of are rta orings/gaskets (they should ship with replacement glass).
I think this is round 3 or 4 of the end of days for vaping but I haven't been in a vape shop in many years and enjoy my specific things I can only get online.

 

[zoiDman]

Why? They seem to do more harm than good. All I have seen the FDA do is to block life saving methods and force super expensive solutions that doesn't really work.

Just Curious...

But have you ever Lived or done an Extended Stay in a another country?

Like maybe in Central America?

 

[Territoo]

I anticipate that we will be able to order from FT under the radar, but I'm not one to rely solely on that. I believe that if i can't make another order of hardware or nicotine, that I'm good for at least 20 years. If I'm still alive then, I'll worry about what I'm going to do then. Perhaps vaping will be totally illegal by then, perhaps it will be legal to buy and ship by then. Each of us has done as much or as little preparation for this time as s/he has felt necessary and now it is time when those preparations or lack thereof will matter.

 

[BillW50]

Just Curious...

But have you ever Lived or done an Extended Stay in a another country?

Like maybe in Central America?

In Europe and the far east. And a few trips into Mexico and Canada. Why do you ask?

 

[YoursTruli]

Its all about the money. Nothing to do with regulations or saving the children or about the health of a nation... from the first time they tried to stop the importation of vaping products at the port and failed their little government heads went snap and they have been sitting up and paying attention, watching closely ever since.
Watching the growth of the market not just here but around the world, watching the direction it took, watching it grow enough to disrupt important government cash flow, watching the steps other governments took to stop it and how that worked out for them, watching and planning an end game that would be effective, seriously effective, effective enough to stop it in its tracks without government blame, no half measures... And they learned a lot... No blaming the government because well they didn't ban it or make it illegal, how to stop a black market before it begins, how to start a tobacco money flow again without taking blame.

 

[nightingale33]

I've never been able to buy any vaping supplies locally. I always got everything online and researched it all here. We did have one vape shop nearby... that I set foot in once, about 5 years ago, and everything was twice as expensive as online with less than half the selection. I am quite sure they are out of business after the past year, if they weren't already.

I haven't bought anything that wasn't shipped or delivered, or picked up without contact at the back of a store, in a year. Not just vape stuff, ANYTHING. So "go buy it in person/locally" is a joke. I had no idea this was happening either, late to the party ordering supplies, I didn't expect to have to cram 1-2 years of shopping into a weekend.

don't forget to submit feedback for the vape mail ban to the USPS, setup by CASAA and the ECF thread for same.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

My $200 order of FT "filters" went through today. I did have to buy a gift certificate to purchase with though. Seems like a decent idea since PayPal doesn't have a record of what "filters" I ordered.

 

[zoiDman]

In Europe and the far east. And a few trips into Mexico and Canada. Why do you ask?

The Reason I asked was it is Rare for me to find someone who has Lived someplace where there Isn't really an "FDA" that thinks we Don't Need an FDA. Or that all the FDA does are the Negative Things you mentioned.

Don't get me Wrong. The FDA Isn't exactly on my Christmas Card list. But I have been places where Food & Drug Regulations are sometimes Catch as Catch Can. And it is Different.

Sometimes Very Different.

 

[BillW50]

Don't get me wrong zoiDman, the general idea of the FDA is a good thing. But when you have people from the FDA exchanging employees with Big Pharma and having the BP and BT actually funding the FDA, well you get nothing good.

 

[GaryInTexas]

Many Federal agencies start off with good and noble intentions but quickly spread beyond the horizon of their intended purpose. A very cost efficient and likely much safer alternative to smoking is being crushed like a bug.

 

[zoiDman]

Don't get me wrong zoiDman, the general idea of the FDA is a good thing. But when you have people from the FDA exchanging employees with Big Pharma and having the BP and BT actually funding the FDA, well you get nothing good.

The FDA Needs a Complete Top-to-Bottom Modernization. And It Needs to Become an Independent Agency again.

It also Needs to get out of the Tobacco Regulation business. And a New Agency under HSS should be Formed to Regulate Nicotine Products. Where Peer Reviewed Science, Innovation and THR are the Primary Goals.

 

[Territoo]

If one doesn't think that the FDA doesn't have a role in our society, just Google the drug thalidomide. Look up the practices of the meat industry of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. But like any government entity, it became too big and overregugalted. Trump showed that with Operation Warp Speed. Take out a lot of the regulations, things that normally take years, got done in months. Theres no reason, using the same data that the UK does, that the FDA can't study and conclude that vaping is 95% safer than smoking. They are under political pressure, both from BT and BP, not to do so. People will often move from the FDA to high paying jobs in BP. BT lobby has all the politicians in their pockets. Big tech and the media are "owned" by the liberal politicians. But you can't say that we don't need an FDA, just a much smaller one.

 

[Bronze]

The FDA Needs a Complete Top-to-Bottom Modernization. And It Needs to Become an Independent Agency again.

It also Needs to get out of the Tobacco Regulation business. And a New Agency under HSS should be Formed to Regulate Nicotine Products. Where Peer Reviewed Science, Innovation and THR are the Primary Goals.

There was talk by some that we should headquarter these govt agencies out of DC. Decentralized them and move them out in the middle of the country. I’d be for that.

 

[CAAB]

An interesting video on some of the alternative delivery service companies and methods being employed for B2C and B2B plus some other shipping related FAQ.

 

[zoiDman]

There was talk by some that we should headquarter these govt agencies out of DC. Decentralized them and move them out in the middle of the country. I’d be for that.

In Todays Day and Age, Location really Doesn't Matter.

What Matters is the Concept that the People who Want to Make Money from a Drug/Product are the Ones who are Funding and Preparing the Studies that are Submitted to the FDA to say if a Drug or Product is Safe and or Effective. And that the FDA is Partially Funded thru these same OEM via Fees.

So the People who Fund you are Also the People who do the Studies who also want to make a Profits selling it. Can't see where that Isn't a Circle Jerk of Conflicts of Interests.

 

[Bronze]

In Todays Day and Age, Location really Doesn't Matter.

What Matters is the Concept that the People who Want to Make Money from a Drug/Product are the Ones who are Funding and Preparing the Studies that are Submitted to the FDA to say if a Drug or Product is Safe and or Effective. And that the FDA is Partially Funded thru these same OEM via Fees.

So the People who Fund you are Also the People who do the Studies who also want to make a Profits selling it. Can't see where that Isn't a Circle Jerk of Conflicts of Interests.

I’m still for getting them out of DC. There’s a reason why six of the top 10 wealthiest counties in the nation surround Washington DC. Or some such ridiculous number.

 

[zoiDman]

I’m still for getting them out of DC. There’s a reason why six of the top 10 wealthiest counties in the nation surround Washington DC. Or some such ridiculous number.

I'd rather see the FDA stay in 4th Federal Court District.

Verses someplace like the 9th District. LOL

 

[Bronze]

I'd rather see the FDA stay in 4th Federal Court District.

Verses someplace like the 9th District. LOL

How about getting everything out of the 9th? Go for it all while we’re dreaming

 

[Territoo]

In Todays Day and Age, Location really Doesn't Matter.

What Matters is the Concept that the People who Want to Make Money from a Drug/Product are the Ones who are Funding and Preparing the Studies that are Submitted to the FDA to say if a Drug or Product is Safe and or Effective. And that the FDA is Partially Funded thru these same OEM via Fees.

So the People who Fund you are Also the People who do the Studies who also want to make a Profits selling it. Can't see where that Isn't a Circle Jerk of Conflicts of Interests.

Nobody publisher scientific research for knowledge sake anymore. All research is privately funded and monopolized for profit. The old time medical journals only publish political junk science, with some sort of agenda. The AMA is so liberal that only 20% of all US physicians belong to it, yet they speak as if they are the sole voice of the medical community.

 

[Hunter19877]

This is definitely going to effect us insanely. But I wouldn't fret to much. Especially to the people who know how to make their own e liquid.
But the reason I say this is because a eightvape already emailed me saying they've secured new shipping and will continue doing business. So that's great even tho that site has nothing I like lol but this means there's hope.
I mean it's whatever. My entire goal when I started vaping was stop smoking cigarettes and eventually stop vaping as well. So it is what it is. But I'm still ...... off about it all.
Well, I spent over $700 on E-Liquid this last month. I have 55 120ml bottles of Don Juan Reserve by Kings Crest, 35 Killer Kustard by Vapetasia, and 20 Boss Reserve by Cuttwood. I have something like 30 spools of various coil wire, and about 300 feet of cotton from Amazon. So I think i should be good for quite a while.
But really man. I hope they figure this crap out. And realize that vaping isn't HER0IN!