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Great chart! This site has been so helpful with everything about e-cig's, I don't think I could have succeded without it. So much to learn, but the answers are here, and if not; their are so many wonderful members willing to help! Good things happen here!
Yeah, I know...I wasn't suggesting you change the chart or anything. Just my 2 cents for ppl reading the thread who might be interested in ordering that way. Of course, if you're not sure if you're gonna like a flavor or not 8oz. is a lot of liquid to burn through.
I didn't make the spreadsheet for me, I made it for all the people who aren't quite so organized. I've already found a juice supplier whose product I like and whose prices I don't mind paying. Other people might not have found their brand yet, and with so many choices, it can be hard to know where to start. Quality is too subjective for meaningful ratings and flavor options are too difficult to keep track of. If you don't have any other benchmarks to go by, price always works. Hopefully people can use this to narrow down their options to shops they can afford.
I've already found a juice supplier whose product I like and whose prices I don't mind paying. Other people might not have found their brand yet, and with so many choices, it can be hard to know where to start. Quality is too subjective for meaningful ratings and flavor options are too difficult to keep track of. If you don't have any other benchmarks to go by, price always works. Hopefully people can use this to narrow down their options to shops they can afford.
That chart is FULL O WIN. I've only tried 2 vendors so far so this helps GREATLY!!
Added new supplier - Vapor Renu
At ~$.24/ml for 30ml bottles, these guys are the cheapest US mixing shop around. I think the current price is a grand opening sale, so I'll update the chart if they go up later.
At ~$.24/ml for 30ml bottles, these guys are the cheapest US mixing shop around. I think the current price is a grand opening sale, so I'll update the chart if they go up later.
Thank you so much candre23 - I just now found your original post with the comprehensive list and you absolutley saved me one HUGE headache. I'd been scrambling all over the internet looking and comparing companies, their prices, products and shipping costs and was getting totally fruatrated. This helps me considerably, Thank You!
Updated with DAT's Vapor.
Please note that the prices I have posted for DAT's are the base prices for 0mg and 8mg nic. Prices for higher nic juice are slightly higher. As far as I know, DAT's is the only shop that charges by nic content.
Please note that the prices I have posted for DAT's are the base prices for 0mg and 8mg nic. Prices for higher nic juice are slightly higher. As far as I know, DAT's is the only shop that charges by nic content.
Updated Alien Visions cost/ml to reflect their new lower prices (thanks Don).
I would like to keep the chart accurate, so if you happen to come across a price change (a permanent change, not just a temporary sale), please post it here. Suppliers: feel free to PM me with updated price changes if you don't want to post in this thread because it might be misconstrued as "promotion".
I would like to keep the chart accurate, so if you happen to come across a price change (a permanent change, not just a temporary sale), please post it here. Suppliers: feel free to PM me with updated price changes if you don't want to post in this thread because it might be misconstrued as "promotion".
holy smokes! this is awesome! thanks so much for your time involved with this, I just wanted you to know, its a great tool to have/use and I will indeed use it.
For those vendors that are browsing, take a look at it and see what you can do about where you stand, kthnx.
Timothy
www.txpowdercoating.com
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Nice list. Thanks for the effort in putting it together.
I did notice that valuevapor was missing. Just purchased a few 30ml bottles for 8.99 each. Around .30/ml I believe............
Again, thanks for the work on this!
I did notice that valuevapor was missing. Just purchased a few 30ml bottles for 8.99 each. Around .30/ml I believe............
Again, thanks for the work on this!
Indeed, a great resource, to which I refer in my answers to e-liquid questions in the ATV forum.
Never one to shy away from looking a gift horse in the mouth...
Through no fault of yours, the $.50 price for Tasty Vapor is misleadingly high. In fact, TV juice is (or, at least, can be) the least expensive out there, but the way they sell it makes it difficult to get a handle on.
The $.50/ml is accurate for their $15 30-ml nicotine "E-Liquid," but not for their $15 120-ml 0mg "Doublers." Used solo, those Doublers are $.0125 (call it $.13) / ml. Since they are intended to be used to cut the nicotine E-Liquid (e.g., 48mg) in the same flavor, some combination is appropriate. So, for someone who vapes at ~10mg: 30 ml of 48mg + 120 ml of 0mg = 150 ml of 9.6mg; cost $30 or $.20/ml.
The cost for someone who vapes at higher nicotine levels will, of course be higher. [But, those who vape at 0mg (which I do for non-tobacco flavors) make out like bandits.]
I'm not sure what the average vaper's nicotine level is. 16mg perhaps? At that level, the cost is $.25/ml: $45 / (60 ml of 48mg + 120 ml of 0mg). Still better than virtually all others.
How you represent all that on your chart ... I don't know. To me, $.25 seems about right; and certainly closer to the reality than $.50.
Never one to shy away from looking a gift horse in the mouth...
Through no fault of yours, the $.50 price for Tasty Vapor is misleadingly high. In fact, TV juice is (or, at least, can be) the least expensive out there, but the way they sell it makes it difficult to get a handle on.
The $.50/ml is accurate for their $15 30-ml nicotine "E-Liquid," but not for their $15 120-ml 0mg "Doublers." Used solo, those Doublers are $.0125 (call it $.13) / ml. Since they are intended to be used to cut the nicotine E-Liquid (e.g., 48mg) in the same flavor, some combination is appropriate. So, for someone who vapes at ~10mg: 30 ml of 48mg + 120 ml of 0mg = 150 ml of 9.6mg; cost $30 or $.20/ml.
The cost for someone who vapes at higher nicotine levels will, of course be higher. [But, those who vape at 0mg (which I do for non-tobacco flavors) make out like bandits.]
I'm not sure what the average vaper's nicotine level is. 16mg perhaps? At that level, the cost is $.25/ml: $45 / (60 ml of 48mg + 120 ml of 0mg). Still better than virtually all others.
How you represent all that on your chart ... I don't know. To me, $.25 seems about right; and certainly closer to the reality than $.50.
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You might look at VaporJunction.com, Alabama, $7.00 flat rate
$7.00?? Get otta' here
$7.00?? Get otta' here
While TV is certainly a good deal if you're willing to do some mixing yourself, it's squarely in the realm of DIY. You need to buy multiple bottles, plus empty bottles, then measure and mix. If you're willing to go that route, you can certainly save some money with TV. You can save even more by mixing the flavors yourself, as anybody in the DIY forum can attest. But if I were to include all the DIY options from all the sites out there, the chart would be a mile long. I wanted to keep it as simple as possible while still being useful. Many people (most, I would think) just want to buy a bottle of ready-to-vape juice and not have to deal with mixing and whatnot. This list is for those people. And if those people want to buy pre-mixed juice from TV, it costs $.50/ml.
If I were into DIY and wanted to make a list for DIY stuff, I would make a separate list just for that. But I prefer my juice premixed, so that's what my list contains. If anybody out there would like to do the legwork and make a similar sortable list for DIY materials, I'm sure plenty of people would appreciate it. Socrata is free to use, so it wouldn't cost anything but time.
Added Vapor Junction.
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