Uuuug... Another plastic bottle question

[avpx1]

Well, I just found 3 liters of 100 mg Throat-Hit Nic from Vapers Tek purchased in 2016. Of course they are still in their original plastic bottles. Uuuuug! The bottles are a not a hard plastic but instead pliable and appear to block light as they are a very dark brown color and on the bottom is stamped PETE 1.
What do you folks think? Keep em or chuck em?
It is a lot of NIC, at least for me... hate to check em, but if you think it's the way to go then so be it.

Thanks

 

[Storm52]

How was it stored?

 

[Katya]

Vaperstek sold Chemnovatic, very good nic. What's the color of the nic? Very dark brown indicates at least 10% oxidation--or more. It won't kill you. Is it still vapeable?

 

[avpx1]

It was stored in my kitchen freezer of all places. Not even in a dedicated freezer but at least kept in a frozen state. I'll grab a thermometer and see what the freezer is set to. I haven't opened any of the bottles but I'll open one and take a look at the color and then mix a little up as an unflavored juice and try a vape on it and report back. More to come.

 

[Katya]

It was stored in my kitchen freezer of all places. Not even in a dedicated freezer but at least kept in a frozen state. I'll grab a thermometer and see what the freezer is set to. I haven't opened any of the bottles but I'll open one and take a look at the color and then mix a little up as an unflavored juice and try a vape on it and report back. More to come.

If it was stored in the freezer you're most likely OK. Keep us posted.

 

[Storm52]

If pop the tops, take the extra step to decant to Amber or brown glass bottles.

 

[avpx1]

As a note... I just found 2 more. Wow 5 liters! I must have been on a tare about prepping at the time. Also a bit embarrassing in that I obviously only clean the bottom of my freezer every 5 years.
But upon inspection all the bottles are concaved as if they were vacuum packed so hats off to Vapers Tek.

 

[JCinFLA]

Nic base in PG or VG will contract in a freezer...not expand like water does when frozen. That's likely why the plastic bottles are sort of concave now.

One thing you need to know is to WAIT until each bottle fully comes to room temperature before you open it. Otherwise, condensation will form in it! Once they're at room temperature, then you should decant the nic base into glass bottles with polycone lined caps and poke them back in the freezer. Depending on what size bottles you break it down to...you'll want to leave a smaller bottle (maybe 60-120mL) out of the freezer to use as a "working" bottle if you plan to DIY fairly soon.

 

[zoiDman]

As a note... I just found 2 more. Wow 5 liters! I must have been on a tare about prepping at the time. Also a bit embarrassing in that I obviously only clean the bottom of my freezer every 5 years.
But upon inspection all the bottles are concaved as if they were vacuum packed so hats off to Vapers Tek.

Damn... How many Bags of Fish Sticks or Stouffer's Lasagna does it take to Hide 5 Liters of Nicotine Base.

 

[Izan]

Well, I just found 3 liters of 100 mg Throat-Hit Nic from Vapers Tek purchased in 2016. Of course they are still in their original plastic bottles. Uuuuug! The bottles are a not a hard plastic but instead pliable and appear to block light as they are a very dark brown color and on the bottom is stamped PETE 1.
What do you folks think? Keep em or chuck em?
It is a lot of NIC, at least for me... hate to check em, but if you think it's the way to go then so be it.

Thanks

Hola,
I have been using the same TH nic (FEB2016) stored in the factory (PETE1) bottles since 2016. ($25.00 per was an insane value!)
Two liters went into a kitchen freezer, one was opened and has been in use for the last five years, the second was opened around the beginning of 2021.

The working bottle is allowed to come to room temp before use.
After use, the air is squeezed out and the bottle capped, wrapped and returned to the freezer.

I mix using 100ml of nicotine per batch and noticed little difference between the last 100ml in the first liter and the first 100ml in the "fresh", second.

Perhaps the second liter is a bit smoother having not been exposed to air and light twice a year.

IMO, the nicotine tastes and smells and acts as expected.
It has not changed nor degraded that I can observe.
I'm gonna use it up.

HTH
I

 

[avpx1]

Hola,
I have been using the same TH nic (FEB2016) stored in the factory (PETE1) bottles since 2016. ($25.00 per was an insane value!)
Two liters went into a kitchen freezer, one was opened and has been in use for the last five years, the second was opened around the beginning of 2021.

The working bottle is allowed to come to room temp before use.
After use, the air is squeezed out and the bottle capped, wrapped and returned to the freezer.

I mix using 100ml of nicotine per batch and noticed little difference between the last 100ml in the first liter and the first 100ml in the "fresh", second.

Perhaps the second liter is a bit smoother having not been exposed to air and light twice a year.

IMO, the nicotine tastes and smells and acts as expected.
It has not changed nor degraded that I can observe.
I'm gonna use it up.

HTH
I

That's great to hear! Hoping I have a similar experience.

I just ordered argon gas and Boston round glass bottles. Arriving in 2 days. I'm going to wait until they arrive and then open up the NIC and decant. I'll report back to you all on what I find.

 

[DaveP]

Hola,
I have been using the same TH nic (FEB2016) stored in the factory (PETE1) bottles since 2016. ($25.00 per was an insane value!)
Two liters went into a kitchen freezer, one was opened and has been in use for the last five years, the second was opened around the beginning of 2021.

The working bottle is allowed to come to room temp before use.
After use, the air is squeezed out and the bottle capped, wrapped and returned to the freezer.

I mix using 100ml of nicotine per batch and noticed little difference between the last 100ml in the first liter and the first 100ml in the "fresh", second.

Perhaps the second liter is a bit smoother having not been exposed to air and light twice a year.

IMO, the nicotine tastes and smells and acts as expected.
It has not changed nor degraded that I can observe.
I'm gonna use it up.

HTH
I

I had one 6 oz bottle stored in a back corner of the fridge that I forgot about after bottling all my 100ml nic base in glass and freezing it all. The one in the fridge turned an a nice pale orange tint over time, but flavor wasn't affected as far as I could tell. I vaped it early on and enjoyed it.

 

[Taberu]

I also have boston rounds and argon coming in a few days as well.

Should I boil the bottles & caps before decanting? Or use straight from the box?

I'm worried the caps might melt/crack and/or water might get stuck inside the cap's cones.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I'm worried the caps might melt/crack and/or water might get stuck inside the cap's cones.

If you are careful, the polycone inserts in the caps can be taken out of the caps. If you are not careful, the little post inside the cap that holds the cone in will snap and it will never hold the cone in after that.

I didn't wash my caps, I just washed my bottles. No need for sterilization IMHO.

 

[Rossum]

I didn't wash my caps, I just washed my bottles.

A few good rinses with hot water is all I do to clean my bottles and caps.

No need for sterilization IMHO.

Agreed, because a mixture of VG, PG, and nicotine isn't particularly conducive to the growth of microbes. In fact, it's anti-microbial.

The only reason to do anything more than a good rinse is if you have flavoring residues that just won't come out. That's a problem I've never had with the flavorings I use, but I have had flavor remenants that were very hard to get rid of in some pre-owned squonk mods that I purchased.

 

[avpx1]

Hi All,
OK, I've finally opened up one of the bottles now that my bostons and argon arrived.
Below are the pictures. I suppose the Vapers Tek NIC looks clear enough. It is tinted compared against freshly opened NIC from MFS purchased in 2016. The MFS NIC was promptly rebottled and has been in a dedicated freezer since day 1 so it has the advantage of having been properly stored.
I've made a batch of unflavored from both the MFS and Vapors Tek NIC. Ratio:20\80, Strength:3mg with 2% EM added to make it palatable for me. I honestly can't really taste a difference other than the Vapers Tek seems to be smoother. Actually a bit more enjoyable. Both are vaped in identical RTAs with new identical coils at the same wattage.
If it somehow went bad I'm not sure I would know how the taste would change. I'm guessing it would taste like tobacco?
I guess my new concern is that being stored in plastic, albeit Pete 1 bottles, that maybe there has been chemicals leached from the plastic.
Any thoughts on this?
Pictures

Vapers Tek NIC Purchased 2016 stored in original plastic bottle in kitchen freezer:

MFS NIC Purchased 2016 rebottled to boston rounds, stored in dedicated freezer:

 

[avpx1]

Below is a picture of the Vapers Tek taken outside which for some reason didn't make to the above post...

 

[Katya]

If it somehow went bad I'm not sure I would know how the taste would change. I'm guessing it would taste like tobacco?

Bad means oxidized. Oxidation = discoloration. Bad nic is brown(ish). You're good! Congratulations!

 

[Katya]

I guess my new concern is that being stored in plastic, albeit Pete 1 bottles, that maybe there has been chemicals leached from the plastic.
Any thoughts on this?

Nope. No idea. Sorry.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I guess my new concern is that being stored in plastic, albeit Pete 1 bottles, that maybe there has been chemicals leached from the plastic.
Any thoughts on this?

If it doesn't taste funny when vaped or make you feel sick, only other way to tell is to get it analyzed.