Uwell Crown

[Rixsta]

Got the Crown today. Initially I got super excited because the Starre coils fit! The tank had a floating pin to accommodate and the base fit flush on the Sig with its own floating pin to accommodate........ahhhh BUT the coil was too tall for it to all screw together. So close to heaven. On with the notes using a .25 DVC coil.

A. juice holes are smaller than Starre/Maganus, less cotton shorter coil *BUT* the juice holes are buried very low in the tank which will be a benefit over the Starre Pro.
B. Air flow about equal to the Arctic, but not as good as the Starre/Maganus. This is just my opinion, but pretty sure I'm right
C. Cloud production 100% on par with the same juice/wattage in the Starre apples to apples 70/30 juice.
D. Flavor probably better than the Arctic same juice/wattage apples to apples 70/30 juice.
E. Top filling, well my this is my 1st time and it was pretty cool. No info on leaking as this is all too new.
F. .25 coil reading .3 to .2 depending on wattage in the Sigelei 150
G. Build quality, heavy, very well made like a Kanger/Arctic
H. Tank design is solid and IF it fell over the glass is semi protected by a protruding ring on top side and I really like this feature.
I. Air temperature at very high wattage (70-90) feels barely warm. I am shocked at how not warm it is. Now @ 120, it jumps to hot.
J. Coil heat up time takes longer than Starre/Maganus/Artic @70-80 meaning you don't get that instant on feeling, but we are talking a micro second.
K. I want to point out the top of the tank and refill itself was a breeze and the tip of my glass dropper fit perfect in the slot, the chimney sets high enough above the filling slots so that a little sloppy filling will not get in the chimney. Also no juice squeezed out as I tight top or bottom.
H. Power is REALLY needed IMO i.e. at least 80-90 watts to really get this tank to sing.[/B] So this may mean a less efficient coil and will mean increased ejuice consumption.

This tank in the photo was full 10 minutes ago. I took it quickly to 120 watts very, but I had to test the claim and it did it with no dry hits.

My thought on the top fill is I may not want to fill this tank sitting on my Sig so I will probably un-screw it off to fill. I just see me knocking over the box with the top off the tank and making a mess or juice dripping down and getting in my box/silicone sleeve and then needing to wipe it down. Just a me thing, but of course I will try just to see how that goes.

**FINAL THOUGHTS** Like Jerry Springer, if it was a blind fold test @ 70 watts I don't think I could tell a huge difference between this and the Arctic. Maybe, perhaps the non Crown tanks may even produce more vaping at low wattage (60-70). If you handed me my Maganus blind folded I could only notice that the air flow would be more, flavor slightly more muted in this 60-70 watt range.

One thing this tank made me appreciate was when I went to unscrew it off my Sig was my good ole Maganus locking airflow ring. The Crown ring just spins so it was a little more effort to reach grab its lowest point and get it to turn the base only to dismount. Though I guess that is NOT a major issue because you don't need to do that as much with top fill!

I'd say this is a great start to a tank line, I look forward to more testing. Also I want to mention it came with 3 coils and a spare glass. You need to have serious power on the .25 coil and I have not tested anything else

Great review, enjoyed reading that. Thank you.
I'll be sticking with my Starre though for now, I feel buying the crown would be unnecessary.

 

[sd3614]

Great review, enjoyed reading that. Thank you.
I'll be sticking with my Starre though for now, I feel buying the crown would be unnecessary.

I don't blame you, having the V2 Maganus (same thing) I can say I love it and it rocks. It also does better in the 60-70 watt range which most people will prefer. Cheers buddy

 

[Mr.Mann]

I don't blame you, having the V2 Maganus (same thing) I can say I love it and it rocks. It also does better in the 60-70 watt range which most people will prefer. Cheers buddy

Being as frank as possible, how consistently good are the Starre coils? Like, out of 10 coils, how may are bunk vs. correct? I know they are great when they are, but I don't know about when they are not (never having bought any for myself, but having used one recently).

 

[Mr.Mann]

@sd3614,

I ask that question above becasue I have always wanted a Starre (especially now since the look is more clean; I couldn't stand the look of the old one), but The Crown has been the best for me with regard to consistent heads (> %80). That is the biggest deal for me (and hopefully soon I will have an RBA head for the Crown). Out of the 5 or 6 subohm clearos I had (and they were all "good" ones), the heads were normally about 60% good (if that). And if there is no RBA head, it's just a crapshoot.

So I know that The Starre really wears the crown, ultimately, in terms of performance, but how about the heads' consistency?

 

[sd3614]

Being as frank as possible, how consistently good are the Starre coils? Like, out of 10 coils, how may are bunk vs. correct? I know they are great when they are, but I don't know about when they are not (never having bought any for myself, but having used one recently).

Oh, I wish I could tell you but even my Starre/Maganus (and Arctic) is super new to me. My 1st coil lasted 2 weeks and probably 15 5ML tanks tops. It did not die it just became unable to handle power and wick and once 40 watts was all she could handle well I pulled it out. I put in the second one and it all was back to business as usual.

I spent 90 days on Kanger OCC coil & the 7ML Subtank Plus's... (also I use Subtank Nano's and Ego One's for Stealth at work) and all does a pretty good job... then I wanted to step things up when I got my Sig 150 so I got the Maganus and the Arctic based on much reading.

I just sold new in the box and un-opened a Subtank Mini, Herakles, Atlantis 2. I saw absolutely no reason to even bother because the Maganus and Arctic was good enough for me (larger tanks also). The Crown just re-confirmed for me that the Starre/Maganus is a good value (so is the Artic) but at a "just warm" 90 watt vape and barely warm 70 watte vape this Crown is pretty darn impressive. I'm now 3 tanks in on it. The Crown is *NOT* going to tear me away from the other 2 tanks just yet, I like all of them thus far. I'm counting tanks on the Crown to see how it goes.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Oh, I wish I could tell you but even my Starre/Maganus (and Arctic) is super new to me. My 1st coil lasted 2 weeks and probably 15 5ML tanks. It did not die it just became unable to handle power and wick and once 40 watts was all she could handle well I pulled it out. I put in the second one and it all was back to business as usual.

I spent 90 days on Kanger OCC coil & Subtank Plus Tanks... (also I use Subtank Nano and Ego One's for Stealth at work)... then I got the Maganus and the Arctic based on much reading.

I just sold new in the box and un-opened a Subtank Mini, Herakles, Atlantis 2. I saw absolutely no reason to even bother because the Maganus and Arctic was good enough for me (larger tanks also). The Crown just re-confirmed for me that the Starre/Maganus is a good value (so is the Artic) but @ 90 watts the Crown so far is pretty darn impressive. I'm now 3 tanks in on it.

Thanks for the details! One ting I love about The Crown is it seems to bring out incredibly bright notes in the liquids. The flavor is just really clear. I was at my favorite liquid shop today and the workers there tried my Crown with the liquid they sell. They were shocked! I told them the Crown does for liquid what Bose speakers do for music! LOL

But I agree with you though, I sold off all the others ones too (the same ones you sold, plus a few others). Now all I have is two Crowns, but the next one will be a Starre (v2). The Arctic I had sucked so badly it wasn't even funny! It was GREAT for 2 days and then all the heads were terrible. My cousin got one and he said the first few coils were bad, but all of the sudden he hasn't gotten a bad one in a loooooong time. I think HorizonTech went through a rough patch with early, overwhelming popularity of the Arctic and wasn't able to keep up the QC. My understanding is that they are back on the right track. The Arctic was great when it was. Sorry for rambling...

 

[sd3614]

Thanks for the details! One ting I love about The Crown is it seems to bring out incredibly bright notes in the liquids. The flavor is just really clear. I was at my favorite liquid shop today and the workers there tried my Crown with the liquid they sell. They were shocked! I told them the Crown does for liquid what Bose speakers do for music! LOL

But I agree with you though, I sold off all the others ones too. Now all I have is two Crowns, but the next one will be a Starre (v2). The Arctic I had sucked so badly it wan't even funny! It was GREAT for 2 days and then all the heads were terrible. My cousin got one and he said the first few coils were bad, but all fo the sudden he hasn't gotten a bad one in a loooooong time. I think HorizonTech went through a rough patch with that overwhelming popularity the Arctic got so soon and wasn't able to keep up the QC. My understanding is that they are back on the right track. The Arctic was great when it was. Sorry for rambling...

If any of these 3 go next assuming the Crown coils hold up well, I would give up the Arctic 1st, even though build quality is better than the Maganus. Your right on the flavor of the Crown, after a few tanks and realizing I'm at 80-90 watts and the flavor is bright and vape is not steaming like you would think. People are going to be shocked when they experience it. Almost to good to be true, so these coils better hold up! Also even though I like my Maganus I'm disappointed to see the Starre Pro has those juice holes so high as someone else mentioned BUT I know the coils will be cheaper than Crown.

I would go for a Starre in a heartbeat @$23 on Ebay with free shipping if you want to try one. It has become my work horse tank replacing most of my Subtank Plus's these last weeks and I have 5 of those suckers. I will admit the new Kanger coil is bringing a new life to them at 55 watts (main reason I let a new Black Subtank Mini move on plus I bet the darn thing will leak anyway like my Plus's).

I stand by Starre/Maganus at 60-70 watts (I also use .25's with mine) as it does a very VERY solid job and flavor is still there. The Crown has more flavor but is just "starts" getting going at at 60-70 with the .25 coils and you have to like a warmer vape to play there with either.

 

[Mr.Mann]

If any of these 3 go next assuming the Crown coils hold up well, I would give up the Arctic 1st, even though build quality is better than the Maganus. Your right on the flavor of the Crown, after a few tanks and realizing I'm at 80-90 watts and the flavor is bright and vape is just barely warm I am thinking people are going to be shocked when they experience it. Almost to good to be true, so these coils better hold up! Also even though I like my Maganus I'm disappointed to see the Starre Pro has those juice holes so high as someone else mentioned BUT I know the coils will be cheaper than Crown.

I would go for a Starre in a heartbeat @$23 on Ebay with free shipping if you want to try one. It has became my work horse tank replacing most of my Subtank Plus's these last weeks and I have 5 of those suckers. I will admit the new Kanger coil is bringing a new life to them at 55 watts (main reason I let a new Black Subtank Mini move on plus I bet the darn thing will leak anyway like my Plus's).

Yeah, the guy at the vape shop saw the wattage I had it at and remarked that is was just barely warm, but not hot at all! He was seriously dumbfounded.

Welp, hope all works out well for you. Cheers, bud.

 

[Rixsta]

I am also on my second coil, looking at the 2 x 5 packs I have, they all look really well made, my first lasted 25 days, my second still going strong, I stand by what I have been shot down for saying on here, they are still the best pre built coils on the market, they are just plain awesome.. It's more than that though, it's the zero issues too, no leaks, comes apart easy, easy to clean, it's just a tank that works really well, day in, day out.
Anyway..
Hope you don't mind me posting this here but as we are discussing the Crown and the Starre and we touched on the Starre Pro with higher juice holes I thought you maybe interested to see this. The holes are definitely higher but are these the actual coil juice holes, I see no cotton, maybe the coil sits lower down?? I really have no idea.
One thing is for sure, man is this a good looking tank, much improved in the looks and machining department. I should have mine in a matter of days so I'll definitely be putting a thread up about it..That AFC better make those clicking noises, or I'm going to be a very unhappy chappy

 

[sd3614]

Nice! Looks good, I think the Juice hole thing is just guessing right now all things being fair. Looking at this pic (the best one I have seen) it appears those holes line up with the bottom of the "usable" glass cavity so all initial thoughts could be just confusion. Thanks for posting that pic.I'm keeping an eye peeled for them in the U.S. I also feel my 1st Freemax coil lasted a long time and they are impressive and huge no doubt. I knew when I saw the Crown it would not have the same air flow as Maganus.

My Maganus/Starre V2 is not going anywhere anytime soon, easier to fill than the Arctic also.

 

[Rixsta]

Nice! Looks good, I think the Juice hole thing is just guessing right now all things being fair. Looking at this pic (the best one I have seen) it appears those holes line up with the bottom of the "usable" glass cavity so all initial thoughts could be just confusion. Thanks for posting that pic.I'm keeping an eye peeled for them in the U.S. I also feel my 1st Freemax coil lasted a long time and they are impressive and huge no doubt. I knew when I saw the Crown it would not have the same air flow as Maganus.

My Maganus/Starre V2 is not going anywhere anytime soon, easier to fill than the Arctic also.

Sorry for off topic again but further to the above discussion, just to clear up the juice holes being to far up on the Starre Pro tank, this is not the case as you can see in this picture..The holes are on the bottom of the tank, not 3ml up.

 

[sd3614]

/\/\/\/\/\ << Nice pic Rixta, looks promising.

So I am half way through the 7th tank on the Crown (approx 30ML). I'm pushing this coil. The 1st tank was 120 watts with no dry hits. All tanks since I am holding it at 90 watts. When the tank is under half full I have to be careful on a long pull with the tank/mod tilted. Can get a touch of a dry hit this way. Keeping it up and down seems fine as the tanks gets lower.

That's it for now.

 

[lovemytank]

I forget, maybe 5 Crown coils around 8 days at 4 tanks per day, just had to switch one at 5 days. Bummer. Rixsta, new tank yet?

 

[sd3614]

I forget, maybe 5 Crown coils around 8 days at 4 tanks per day, just had to switch one at 5 days. Bummer. Rixsta, new tank yet?

Are you saying you have been through 5 Crown coils, each lasting around 8 days each? Each coil seeing 4 tanks per day (18-20ML) and then they die, or just start burning. Just want to make sure I get it. That would sound like 120-140 ML per tank.

Also if you don't mind me asking what average wattage do you run and what juice/brand/flavor style?

Thanks!

 

[lovemytank]

The Crown coils taste incredible until bam, they dont. If I pull extra hard then I can get half a tank more but the taste sags. I vape between 45-80w depending on juice, this last coil was 60w-ish blue berry vanilla cake DIY.

 

[sd3614]

The Crown coils taste incredible until bam, they dont. If I pull extra hard then I can get half a tank more but the taste sags. I vape between 45-80w depending on juice, this last coil was 60w-ish blue berry vanilla cake DIY.

Gotcha, well I am still on coil one tank 10 maybe 11. The 1st tank 120 watts the whole way, 2-9 90 watts & flavor was world class (world of clero's I have used). The last tanks I can see it stepping down on flavor and I am needing to bring wattage down to 65-75 to avoid burnt hits. All said though that is about 40ml. Flavor is still respectable and I inspected the coil today and it all looked amazingly clean.

I have a hard time tossing a coil that may be muting on the flavor some after that much use but still chucking clouds. When I switch over to a reasonably new arctic coil what may seem muted on the UWELL seems on par with the Arctic (so maybe I got spoiled?). No leaks and my number one pet peeve after being spoiled on the maganus would be a locking pin on the air flow valve to help unscrew the whole tank off the mod.

 

[lovemytank]

The Crown sure is amazing on flavor, just got 16 coils today yeah....until the starre pro comes in. Endless....

 

[sd3614]

The Crown sure is amazing on flavor, just got 16 coils today yeah....until the starre pro comes in. Endless....

Best flavor of any Clearo I have used. I'm finding each coils is lasting me about 50ML. Rocking some MTV Twinkie right now, so rich. I'm going to keep 2 of them and sell of the 2 that came from cigg lobby that took too long to get here. Fastech was quicker which is pretty sad.

 

[Mr.Mann]

It's here, and it's expensive (for now).

RBA COIL FOR CROWN SUB OHM TANK BY UWELL

 

[Mr.Mann]

The Crown coils taste incredible until bam, they dont. If I pull extra hard then I can get half a tank more but the taste sags. I vape between 45-80w depending on juice, this last coil was 60w-ish blue berry vanilla cake DIY.

Check out that post I made from another thread. I've added a couple new points...

Regarding the coils and how *I* get the most life out of them. A few tips I've learned after having this tank awhile:

• #1. Use MAX VG, but more importantly, use %90 VG or more. As @sd3614 alluded to -- and I've learned -- the coils wick too efficiently to be running a thinned out liquid. It needs a dense(er) viscosity or else you will flood the coils and get that out-of-the-blue burnt hit. 70% VG is actually not thick enough for optimal performance and no "MAX VG" means anything until you know how much VG it actually has (after all, it could have 35% PG flavoring!!!).
• Do NOT get liquid inside of the coils! Do not get overzealous with saturating the coils for a priming. Take your time and just soak the cotton from the outside liquid-feeds or the top of the coil head. If you over-saturate it from the top (of the coil head or even the tank itself and it runs down the center), twist a thin piece of tissue and run it down the middle of the coil and soak up some of the extra liquid. You can check to see if you over-saturated it by dry-pulling and checking for gurgles.
• Refill your tank *before* the liquid gets to or below the "crown". I don't know why that works becasue the fill holes are lower and it should be all good, but it does work wonders for me. My theory is that with vaping and the occasional tilting of the mod, some parts of the liquid-feed are not getting fed well enough during a pull. Dunno exactly though.
• When using the top-fill to refill (which I imagine EVERYONE does), try and stop your fill just shy of the of fill-slots. If you fill it too high and are touching the fill-slots, or even worse, above the slots, you'll get hella spit-back and it'll mess up the vape
• If you empty out a tank and even immediately refill it, do not vape it right away. Wait a minute or two and if you are using a regulated device, back it off the wattage for a *few* pulls (as low as 1/3 lower) before cranking it back up. But only for a few pulls is what I've found necessary if in a rush (but I prefer to take my time with it).
• If you use a regulated device and you start to get wonky hits (those hits where the coils sizzles after you hit it and tastes kinda burnt, back it off the wattage by about 1/3 and vape your way back up over the course of maybe half a tank). If the coil is *not* truly spent -- and you know it shouldn't be -- it will get its performance back.
• If your coil starts acting wonky, do not try and power your way through that. Essentially "re-prime it," but without the soaking of the cotton part.
• Breaking-in the coils is best at low wattages (of course), using short, hard-ish pulls. Do not take long drags even at lower wattages. These coils are great because with a little care, you can break them in successfully in about 5-10 minutes (or just about a 1/5 of a tank!!). Even with the .25Ω heads, I might begin at 25 watts and creep up 3-5 watts with about 3-5 quick pulls at each range until I get to my desired power. Though sometimes I really take my time breaking-in Crown heads because the vape is never actually nasty tasting (like a few other tanks).
• Getting extraordinarily good life out for the coils is, if you have a hard hitting mechanical mod (*not* a hybrid-style), use your Crown on that! I have a fantastic mechanical mod and my coils last 2x as long (at least). I think becasue the power being delivered to it backs off ever so slightly with each successive pull, it doesn't stress the coils out. Since my mech is so efficient (JKuro Mod), I barely notice any difference in vape (aside from the life of the coils) as I do vaping it at a mid-high range on a regulated device (~70 watts). If you like to blast the coils with 85+ watts, this won't work for you so much.
• If using a mech, I'd suggest breaking-in the coils when your battery is low
• Optional but recommended: once every few days to a week, take out your coil and use a twisted napkin/paper towel to remove some build-up. You won't be able to get it all off, nor should you compromise the coils to do so, but you can keep it at bay.

p.s. If you disagree with anything I've said, we can agree to disagree. These tips I've learned are what have worked for me, saved me money and provided me with a much longer life of one coil. Hopefully this helps someone out there. Vape on. Vape well.