Vapelicious?

[Mr.Mann]

Good Morning!
@ Mr.Mann, Congratulations! She's adorable! Saw the pic on another thread. So true that something so small can cause daily 180 degree changes in everything.
@ Faylool, wouldn't it be great if everyone would quit their day job to help us out. Actually, not really great for them.

I understand the frustration of the wait, and the reason we do. It's kinda reflected in this country as a custom tailor vs Walmart off the rack imports. In terms of quality, this is Vapelicious vs Aroma. The difference tho is the pricing. Here the custom/quality is less expensive than Walmart. So, should he quit his day job and astronomically raise his prices?

Ethan is one person. He custom mixes the WTA, nic and the flavoring you described , tests it, bottles it labels it for hundreds of ppl that order in the first few hours he opens the site. Then there are hundreds of emails to answer from new ppl and customers. And Fay, you don't like the way he "plays" it? Seriously?

If I was Ethan, I'd say, sorry folks, I'm just gonna "play" for a few friends, I can't clone myself and I can't make the posters understand that I do the best I can with what I've got. Go pay more for less at Aroma.

But thank God, I'm not Ethan. He truly wants to use what he knows so well to actually help people who need WTA in a flavor equally enjoyable. I've talked to him several times about just having ready to sell bottles of the most popular juices ready to go. Know what his answer is??
THIS- Some of the best flavoring doesn't have a long shelf life. He doesn't know how long the quality of the taste would last. So, should he not care about that? Or should he spend his time and product, mixing up batches to sit on a shelf for months and test it at intervals.

Or should he not sleep so he can answer the hundreds of emails to those he's already told they'll have it as soon as he can humanly make it?
He's not a slick business wheeler-dealer. He's a genuinely nice, honest guy who has a wealth of knowledge about tobacco, nicotine, and WTA, combined with a gift for flavoring. He doesn't price gouge, he could get more money and have a few select customers.
He's trying to help as many ppl as he can. He looks at different ways to do that.

So back @ Mr.Mann, that is why I wait for it. And probably why most do. Some will miss out because of those on this forum that want to make him out to be a criminal or con artist for not getting their orders as quickly as they hoped. That's a shame.

And then there the Walmart of the forum, who so badly wants to be the only vendor in this industry with no completion, that they encourage the negative press while doing nothing to offer more.

Just my 2 cents/sense.

Thanks for the compliment (on the baby!) I am typing with one hand while the baby is in my left arm and the wife gets some much needed out-of-the-house time.

Look, I didn't get it before, but after having his WTA, I do get it. I know he is awesome to talk to, and I think he gets caught up in trying to please too many people whilst no taking into consideration what that would entail. I say he should post on his site that "you will get it when it's done, and if you can't handle that, then don't buy." People buy mods like that all the time. Problems arise when dates are given, or in my case, when the order was reported to have been made but never sent. Here's the kicker: I still get it, because his WTA is so effing righteous that, well, he is unparalleled (or at least his chemist is) in that respect. Being in such high demand for totally viable reasons makes it what it is.

 

[redrose]

Thanks for the compliment (on the baby!) I am typing with one hand while the baby is in my left arm and the wife gets some much needed out-of-the-house time.

Look, I didn't get it before, but after having his WTA, I do get it. I know he is awesome to talk to, and I think he gets caught up in trying to please too many people whilst no taking into consideration what that would entail. I say he should post on his site that "you will get it when it's done, and if you can't handle that, then don't buy." People buy mods like that all the time. Problems arise when dates are given, or in my case, when the order was reported to have been made but never sent. Here's the kicker: I still get it, because his WTA is so effing righteous that, well, he is unparalleled (or at least his chemist is) in that respect. Being in such high demand for totally viable reasons makes it what it is.

I completely concur. I think each time he opens, he initiates new ordering processes that he counts on to be reliable. When they don't work out of the gate, he gets bogged down in fixing it. And like at any vendor, there are a few orders that just fall thru every crack. He does offer refunds when that happens, but nobody wants refunds, they just want the joose. Understood.

Until it's seamless, he should absolutely post a clearer statement about wait times. I love, "you will get it when it's done, and if you can't handle that, then don't buy." LOL!

It looks like he will take custom orders for a few more days, then close down for a bit. He plans on re-opening with tested for shelf-life ready to go flavors. For the love of this community that can't make the switch with just nic, I pray it goes well. I spent enuf years just being able to buy only the same crappy juice with a different label. WTA users shouldn't have to suffer twice.
And competition is a good thing, no?
For the WTA part there's just no comparison. Vapelicious is a far superior product.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I spent enuf years just being able to buy only the same crappy juice with a different label. .

That looks eerily close to 9 out of 10 "Turkish" tobaccos. Made, err, bottled right here in the good ol' U.S of A!

 

[It's Only Me]

Interesting conversation, thanks. Guess I'll be patient for some good stuff.

Site says 'processing' and my bank charged so I'm getting there. I think I understand better.

Besides, I have enough juice on hand to kill a horse.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Interesting conversation, thanks. Guess I'll be patient for some good stuff.

Site says 'processing' and my bank charged so I'm getting there. I think I understand better.

Besides, I have enough juice on hand to kill a horse.

Any word yet?

 

[Berylanna]

I really REALLY wanted strong juice because I mix it with Legend for flavor, and I also heard wonderful things about Vapelicious flavors!

But I sent a charge for $120, and NOTHING. When I email him, sometimes he replies that he'll look into it, more-often nada.

The order was August 12.

I've just sent yet another email to all 3 of the addresses I have tried in the past, complete with (AGAIN) a copy of the credit card receipt.

Not so much with the hope.

If the problem is his computer system, GET HELP! I can only fix Unix computers, and only in the OS, so I probably couldn't be much help but if someone is a chemist whatinell is he doing wasting all that time on computer stuff? "I'm a doctor, Jim, not a fill in the blank!"

 

[It's Only Me]

Any word yet?

Nothing yet.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I really REALLY wanted strong juice because I mix it with Legend for flavor, and I also heard wonderful things about Vapelicious flavors!

But I sent a charge for $120, and NOTHING. When I email him, sometimes he replies that he'll look into it, more-often nada.

The order was August 12.

I've just sent yet another email to all 3 of the addresses I have tried in the past, complete with (AGAIN) a copy of the credit card receipt.

Not so much with the hope.

If the problem is his computer system, GET HELP! I can only fix Unix computers, and only in the OS, so I probably couldn't be much help but if someone is a chemist whatinell is he doing wasting all that time on computer stuff? "I'm a doctor, Jim, not a fill in the blank!"

Nothing yet.

This is what I don't get. I mean, I know the guy has a lot of customers, and I can appreciate that. I know he has another job and I can respect that. I know he has to wait for his "chemist" (or whatever) to do the extraction and it is a painfully slow processs. Once again, these things I acknowledge are worth acknowledging. However, if there is no way of keeping up with ALL of your customers in a basic fashion, and as far back as August?! Well, that is not respectable, it's a big problem (great product or not).

I will say this again: his WTA is awesome and I think he is a good guy personally--I emphasize "think." Is he or his WTA worth 8+ months at $120? HELL NO! Berylanna, I remember you in a thread awhile back and I can't believe that your order never came--well, maybe I can. If what you say is accurate, and I have no reason to believe it's not, that is grounds for some kind of legal action.

Taken from his current site: "I have been having some issues with the email system and my software which is supposed to help me manage all my emails. Please give me a few more days, at least over this weekend to the 18th, to sort through this all and get back to you."

I desperately hope that after the 18th, we will see some progress. I, for one, will keep checking in with you all 'cause I went through the same thing (though, not 8 months! Yikes.) and it was quite lonely not hearing from someone who has your money and is a digital ghost (and my order was barley $20). At that time he said he, "screwed up [my] order and several other peoples' in the same batch somehow with the shipping weight" though I never saw my order. It can't always be technical issues, can it?

 

[Faylool]

It's usually like this. If someone starts stringing you along get out. If you any WTA with a dripper RBA (RDA ok ok ) you'll get noticably stronger results.

 

[AnthonyB]

Ethan Huff is a criminal as far as I am concerned. DO NOT DEAL WITH ETHAN HUFF UNLESS YOU WANT TO RISK LOSING YOUR MONEY. If you insist on sending him money in advance for his supposed WTA juices then make sure you do it through Paypal and take note of the maximum length of time you have to make a merchandise dispute application with them.

I put in an order 15 months ago and paid for it. I never got it and Ethan stopped responding to my emails.

I will tell you my story. I was excited about his WTA juices and during the first couple of email conversations, I must say, Ethan was enthusiastic, helpful and really seemed to care about what I required in terms of flavors. After the first couple of conversations with Ethan he gained my respect and trust to an extent as a attentive vendor with a quality product and I really wanted the WTA juices. So as a result I paid him through Paypal on February 2012. I transferred $180 to him. Initially he was very reluctant to receive my payment through Paypal, because apparently, he had problems with Paypal before. So it is evident he has had other complaints by consumers who paid him on Paypal who must have launched a merchandise dispute with them.

I too launched a merchandise dispute but I missed the cut off for the maximum time allowable to raise a dispute. But here is an excerpt of my dispute application with Paypal. -

On ## February #### I contacted Ethan Huff regarding electronic cigarettes for sale. He runs an electronic cigarette business and has an online site for his business.
A product list of items I had purchased was finalised with Mr Huff and he advised me of a price. Initially he wanted me to pay through other online intermediaries however I was unable to utilise the web sites. Mr Huff was hesitant to use Paypal and explained that he had problems with receiving payments through Paypal, however he was willing to accept payment from me.
On ## February #### Mr Huff issued me with a payment order advice from Paypal and I paid an amount \$###.## USA. This was payment for a variety of electronic cig accessories.

Mr Huff had advised me that delivery may take a few weeks as he was waiting for some important parts. At the time of payment I had asked Mr Huff to provide me with an invoice and documentation relating to shipping. None was forthcoming. After a few weeks nothing was sent to me and I checked again with Mr Huff the progress of my order. I sent him emails enquiring about the progress of my order on several occasions.
On Mar # I enquired as to whether my order went out and Mr Huff claimed it had. He was unable to advise me which date it went out and I got no documentation confirming shipment despite numerous requests for it.
I did not receive the order and Mr Huff claimed that there must have been an incident with the shipping. He said he would ship it again. I told him I would make arrangements to share costs with him, however I suspect the first order never went out at all.
On April # I asked Mr Huff is the order had gone out again and he told me once again he was waiting for crucial parts.
I sent follow up emails on May # and May ##. I had no response to my email on May ##.
On June ## I sent an email to Mr Huff enqiring once again if the order was either sent or nearing completion. I advised him that if he didn't respond to my email in # days I would start a payment dispute with Paypal'. I had no further responses from Ethan Huff despite numerous follow up emails.

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[AnthonyB]

What's up, Fay? I read you clearly.

The biggest gripe I had/have with the guy is NOT the wait times per se, but the fact that he will tell you one thing and do another. I am sure he means well, but a man's word MUST carry weight! The wait time is reasonable if he tells you it will be that, informs you if something goes wrong, or if it was standard practice. Once again, it is what it is and I do get why some people wait. But, to tell me that my order was already sent out--even though it was supposedly sent back--that implies that, of course, my order was COMPLETE! So, why after it was complete would it still exceed over a month to go out again?

Yes very good summation and you are spot on correct. The reason you've waited over a month is because Ethan lied about sending it out. The same thing happened to me *15 months ago*. I had been waiting about a month and checked with Ethan to see what happened. He told me the order must have gotten lost in the mail or incorrectly posted so he said he would send it again. I never received it. After months of waiting and sending him emails unanswered I just gave up.

For all the talk of his great WTA juices and mixing skills it doesn't change the fact that he is a criminal. He stole my money and it appears from this thread he has stolen money from others. It's not that he allowed me to send him my money that makes him a criminal, it's that he never refunded my money back when he knew full well that he would not be able to provide me with my order.

 

[Faylool]

Hopefully more people will come out of the woodwork re this kind of thing. I suspected as much. Anybody else?

 

[carrotcake]

They aren't the same thing? https://vapelicious.com/product/all-custom-flavors/

I guess there is http://www.vapealiciousjuice.com/Blueberries-N-Cream_p_9.html
MMmmmmmm

Wish I could help but I have had 5 of their juices ordered and haven't received them yet. As a matter of fact it's been exactly a month now in waiting. Did you folks have to wait this long? Sent a couple of e-mails and only one was answered about 2 weeks ago. Getting a little worried.

EDIT: I want to be clear that I'm talking about Vapelicious (the one with WTA), not a very respected vendor on this site called Vape~A~Licious Juice.

 

[carrotcake]

I was about to order from both vapelicious and aroma. Should I hold on the vapelicious? Is Aroma delivering?

 

[Mr.Mann]

They aren't the same thing? https://vapelicious.com/product/all-custom-flavors/

I guess there is Blueberries N Cream
MMmmmmmm

The two vendors names were the source of a dispute. Vap-a-licious is a registered ECF members that sells regular nic juice and Vapelicious is a WTA vendor that is the source of so many issues in this thread.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I was about to order from both vapelicious and aroma. Should I hold on the vapelicious? Is Aroma delivering?

Aroma has no/none/zilch issues with shipping or disappearing considering they are here on ECF. If you are on ECF, you'd never be able to get away with disappearing!

 

[Double777]

Just received my Aroma WTA Ejuice, emailed tracking #, but I also ordered from vapelicious wta and got an email about the wait time. If I'm willing to wait or cancel the order.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I just saw this posted on Ethan's site from today (so he is out there somewhere):


"Closed Until 18th – Filling Orders

April 5, 2013 Ethan News 0 Comments
Ordering has been closed and I am working on fulfilling orders. Please use the contact form if you have any questions. I will have some updates once I am through the orders and figure out a plan for re-opening.

The main idea is to switch to only selling things pre-mixed because letting people order whatever they want custom takes way too long now that demand is so great. I will have to make some changes to the website to have each flavor on an individual product, so the website will be down for some time after this weekend or orders are all filled.

At some point, I am going to add a form to submit your email to get a coupon code to thank everyone who has ordered recently for their patience. Watch for the next blog post, the 18th for reopening is tentative. Thanks!"

I hope this thread stays open because people need to know what's up and see in one visible place what is to be expected. This is too pervasive to simply be in the "negative reviews" forum.

p.s. Notice the caveat about the "18th" being "tentative!"

 

[redrose]

First, I really feel badly for those who didn't get their orders. I would be ...... as well. I personally believe he, and his intent, is honorable. He has customers worldwide, who keep ordering. I do not think the few who post never getting an order or a refund is the norm, and I would be shocked if "many more came out of the woodwork" who actually never received an order or got their money back.

He also cannot respond here, and that leaves the conversation one-sided. I don't think it's right to declare him a criminal based on a few orders. Almost everyone has posted in one place or another of having received their orders and have been extremely happy with what they received.

Faylool, didn't you resolve yours one way or another? You have your money, correct? Suspicious is a feeling, not a fact.

I suggest waiting until he re-opens with ready to go, and then judge him as you would any other vendor. I have never been on his site when there isn't a posting from him about wait times, even if it is actually longer. And I have seen posts like these for every vendor who does custom orders. The ones here that are extreme deserve further information.

So I'll make an offer. If you contact me with your order details, I will ask him about them, and I will post the status.

 

[Mr.Mann]

First, I really feel badly for those who didn't get their orders. I would be ...... as well. I personally believe he, and his intent, is honorable. He has customers worldwide, who keep ordering. I do not think the few who post never getting an order is the norm, and I would be shocked if "many more came out of the woodwork" who actually never received an order.

He also cannot respond here, and that leaves the conversation one-sided. I don't think it's right to declare him a criminal based on a few orders. Almost everyone has posted in one place or another of having received their orders and have been extremely happy with what they received.

Faylool, didn't you resolve yours one way or another? You have your money, correct? Suspicious is a feeling, not a fact.

I suggest waiting until he re-opens with ready to go, and then judge him as you would any other vendor. I have never been on his site when there isn't a posting from him about wait times, even if it is actually longer. And I have seen posts like these for every vendor who does custom orders. The ones here that are extreme deserve further information.

So I'll make an offer. If you contact me with your order details, I will ask him about them, and I will post the status.

Last night I actually had posted that maybe redrose may be able to help, but I deleted it because I thought that was not for me to suggest. That is cool of you.