Vaper with cats be careful.

[Sinkhole]

Just thought I'd share this if any one didn't know. Propylene Glycol can be dangerous to cats. So keep your e-supplies away from your furry companions. I put down my rig and wont touch it my cat enters the room.
Here is a quote from Wikipedia.

Propylene glycol was once a common ingredient in soft moist cat food. According to the FDA "It was known for some time that propylene glycol caused Heinz Body formation in the red blood cells of cats (small clumps of proteins seen in the cells when viewed under the microscope), but it could not be shown to cause overt anemia or other clinical effects. However, recent reports in the veterinary literature of scientifically sound studies have shown that propylene glycol reduces the red blood cell survival time, renders red blood cells more susceptible to oxidative damage, and has other adverse effects in cats consuming the substance at levels found in soft-moist food.^[11] In light of this new data, CVM amended the regulations to expressly prohibit the use of propylene glycol in cat foods."^[12]

 

[hawley]

Wonder if the amount of PG in e-juice is of a level that could cause any concern?

 

[Sinkhole]

I'm not sure, so I'm keeping out reach of my cat. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Leatherneck]

Looks like I'm getting 100% VG from now on.

 

[bugler]

If it was once put in cat food, I'd imagine it won't kill them immediately and in small doses. Not saying it's safe, just saying I'd imagine the nicotine would be a more immediately fatal problem...

 

[Trick]

If it was once put in cat food, I'd imagine it won't kill them immediately and in small doses. Not saying it's safe, just saying I'd imagine the nicotine would be a more immediately fatal problem...

Beat me to it -- but yeah, if this was a common cat food ingredient until 1996, it's nothing at all worth panicking over. In 1996 I had a 22-year-old cat that probably ate it every day.

 

[Sinkhole]

I would agree with you there. But my cat and dog are like my children, since I don't have kids and will take what ever means necessary to protect them from ill affects of things I do.

 

[cactus71]

Just be safe and keep all non- dog, cat, kid (yeah I meant a baby goat) friendly stuff tucked securely away or attended - no worries then.

 

[vsummer1]

Well, most of my PG has nic in it so I pretty much keep it where I keep it, in my tanks and bottles. I surely don't put it out for them to be eating in their food.

Quite frankly, my dogs and cat aren't really interested in it. Of course, I haven't tried bacon flavored....

 

[coffeencigs]

thank you for that info. i'm still a newbie, but from my limited experience, i prefer 100% VG anyway, so looks like i'm staying with that.

 

[MF DOOM]

Listen, if it isn't safe for ME, it never garners a second thought.

DOOD MY CAT!

 

[bugler]

And definitely put it way up before you go on vacation. Cats love to piss on their owners favorite things when they feel abandoned or betrayed! Vindictive little critters...

 

[vsummer1]

And definitely put it way up before you go on vacation. Cats love to piss on their owners favorite things when they feel abandoned or betrayed! Vindictive little critters...

They are just marking it making sure no one uses it but THEIR people. Though I think my cat is a vindictive little critter... bless his heart.

 

[worthatry]

So will inhaling it via second hand do the same damage to a cat as eating it? If it's just eating it I would think the nicotine would have a more adverse and immediate effect than the PG so be careful with any juice and any pet or child in that aspect.

 

[vsummer1]

So will inhaling it via second hand do the same damage to a cat as eating it? If it's just eating it I would think the nicotine would have a more adverse and immediate effect than the PG so be careful with any juice and any pet or child in that aspect.

As was stated before, many cats ate it daily and lived a long life. I doubt the small amount my cat would get from exhalation of my vapor could possibly equal the level cats used to eat.

Just don't buy catfood flavor and let the cat eat it, it has nicotine in it.

 

[Jacques34]

mmmm....my wife's cats have been irritating me for a while now....lol

 

[Dino Dave]

Thanks for the info. I have 3 cats myself and never even thought of this.

 

[mostlyclassics]

So will inhaling it via second hand do the same damage to a cat as eating it? If it's just eating it I would think the nicotine would have a more adverse and immediate effect than the PG so be careful with any juice and any pet or child in that aspect.

Our vet has a small PG fog machine which she fires up in her operating room whenever she slices'n'dices dogs and cats. She also says the tiny amount of PG floating around in the air from my vaping doesn't do anything bad to cats -- it's way below the threshold concentration for that.

This is also anecdotal evidence, but one of our former cats, who ate a lot of PG-laced cat food, was a huge pipe tobacco fan. She'd lie on my scanner and I'd blow her smoke rings, which she'd snork right up. She died at age 21 when her kidneys threw snake-eyes. Over the years she got a considerable dose of Vitamin-N.

 

[Dino Dave]

Are you serious? What does the pg fog machine do?

 

[mostlyclassics]

Are you serious? What does the pg fog machine do?

PG is a good germicide. They used to pump PG into hospital ORs via the ventilation system, until micropore filters became affordable. Hospitals found the micropore filters were more cost-effective because you just change them periodically, instead of having to swab the condensed PG out of ventilation systems and every surface in the ORs quite often. Also, if you're much over age 25 and were born in a hospital, then very likely the first breaths of air you drew on this earth were laced with PG.

Our vet's office is in a building with steam heat and radiators, so the PG fog machine was much more cost-effective for her.