Ok so im about 2 weeks off the ciggs thanks to my mvp 2.0 and my aspire nautilus mini and a few other nice tanks and ive been searching and searching trying to make sure ive made the right choice. Well at first i knew i did and then i ran across a forum talking about fiberglass in the wicking material. So i started reading and dam i can not believe this. This totally scares the s*** out of me. I mean there are no scientific tests but theres people out there saying they are getting shards of glass even on the exhale so WE must be inhaling this stuff. Also i guarantee you not many of us vapers know about this and if we all did we would be looking for an alternative wick. Which i thought was cotton but you can also find bad things about it plus to me the stock coils with the stock wicks taste a little better to me anyways. There should be a way to make a wick thats truly safe and if enough people wanted this the companies would work their butts off to make it. I just want some SCIENTIFIC experiment saying that the fiberglass wick does not pose a threat. Which im sure in 10 years we will. Im not sure about everyone else but im not for being the guinea pigg. I just believe everyone should know this risk before they decide this is safer that real ciggs. I think there is a easy way around this with all the technology i just wish someone would come up with it.
Vapers beware ( fiberglass?? Really?????
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I won't use them; seems many don't care, though. Taste and clouds are what really matter, not safety...
Edit: ignore me, I didn't realize we were talking about the Nautilus or BVC coils. That'll teach me!
The "fiberglass" you're talking about is the stock wick with that comes with most coils; we just call it silica.
I'm not materials science expert by any means; maybe there's a difference between silica and fiberglass.
I don't use it because it doesn't wick as well as other materials, not necessarily safety concerns. I think the theory is that only dry wicks really give off particulates in the vapor, and we don't like dry hits anyway, right? Again, not an expert, that's just the main reasoning I've heard.
The "fiberglass" you're talking about is the stock wick with that comes with most coils; we just call it silica.
I'm not materials science expert by any means; maybe there's a difference between silica and fiberglass.
I don't use it because it doesn't wick as well as other materials, not necessarily safety concerns. I think the theory is that only dry wicks really give off particulates in the vapor, and we don't like dry hits anyway, right? Again, not an expert, that's just the main reasoning I've heard.
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This keeps me from trying as well...but, I'm perfectly happy with where I'm at in my vaping journey, and I have all the suplies minus ejuice to keep me going for a while. I know that's a factor also.
No, the BVC material is different than silica, turns granulate and has a screen to prevent the particles from being inhaled...
For some strange reason I cant seem to concentrate on a thread when I see your avi in a post! LOL anyway now that I am finished thinking outloud. I am pretty sure its hard for soaking wet silica to become airborne into the microparticles that would cause any damage to the lungs then again I am no respiratory doctor either. Silica also has a seriously high heat resistance so It is not like you are vaporizing silica and inhaling it that way either. One thing i can assure you of though is that Every cigg you have ever smoked is much more harmful.
If anything, the models with the problems people talk about might be defective? I'm sure they're not all going to be like that, though it does concern me if it is.
I don't use silica for the exact same reasons. Silica, if over cooked/dry hitted, can produce needle fibers and impale the lungs, yeah, am a risk taker, sure, heck, have been know to jump off cliffs and fly like a bird, but frak, had wings on me back.
Hmm, next you'll hear someone professing the wicking potential of asbestos or something.
Just cause one can don't mean it's necessarily an intelligent action being taken
or something like that.
Vape long and prosper.
Hmm, next you'll hear someone professing the wicking potential of asbestos or something.
Just cause one can don't mean it's necessarily an intelligent action being taken
or something like that.Vape long and prosper.
I solely use ... cotton as of now although I have an iterest in the rayon after all the reading ive done.
There's a long detailed thread about the wicking material on reddit problem is just like everything in the vaping world there is no definitive answers for the safety of anything.
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"News - The Safety of our BVC Coils Aspire - News - The Safety of our BVC Coils
Over the past few months, the subject of our Bottom Vertical Coils has become a growing topic of interest among our customer community. Specifically, the questions of what is the material that you use in the construction of your BVC coils? or are they healthy to the user?, have been asked numerous times. So here for the benefit of all, is the low down on our BVC coils.
We use a ceramic fiber which is placed around the heating coil during its construction, which has undergone and passed rigorous SGS certification, and is both nontoxic and heat resistant. This ceramic material is, of course, exclusively researched and developed by the Aspire Company, and is only accessible by our manufacturing company, Shenzhen Eigate Technology Co., Ltd.
We at Aspire value our customers safety and concern, and welcome these questions to help assure you of our levels of safety and consideration. But, although we work hard to guarantee the safety of our products, we cannot guarantee the quality or indeed the safety of the many counterfeit companies who work to imitate our products and materials. Because of this, BVC coils obtained from fake/non-authentic suppliers/manufacturers may be toxic and/or may not be able to endure the high temperatures of the original. So we urge you to please buy smart and buy safe, keep authentic and stay healthy."
Over the past few months, the subject of our Bottom Vertical Coils has become a growing topic of interest among our customer community. Specifically, the questions of what is the material that you use in the construction of your BVC coils? or are they healthy to the user?, have been asked numerous times. So here for the benefit of all, is the low down on our BVC coils.
We use a ceramic fiber which is placed around the heating coil during its construction, which has undergone and passed rigorous SGS certification, and is both nontoxic and heat resistant. This ceramic material is, of course, exclusively researched and developed by the Aspire Company, and is only accessible by our manufacturing company, Shenzhen Eigate Technology Co., Ltd.
We at Aspire value our customers safety and concern, and welcome these questions to help assure you of our levels of safety and consideration. But, although we work hard to guarantee the safety of our products, we cannot guarantee the quality or indeed the safety of the many counterfeit companies who work to imitate our products and materials. Because of this, BVC coils obtained from fake/non-authentic suppliers/manufacturers may be toxic and/or may not be able to endure the high temperatures of the original. So we urge you to please buy smart and buy safe, keep authentic and stay healthy."
Well I'm relieved now. A PRC faceless company cares about my health and says they are safe...
Well im happy to hear that about the BVC coil because that's my favorite and after 3 hours of looking for kgd cotton i finally purchase 80 pads from Japan. I don't think there is any in the us.. haha if it is its way overpriced so i think . Ill continue to use my cotton wicks in my protank3 and the aspire bvc until my japanese cotton arrives. And im glad to know im not the only one concerned and like i said im not saying that we are ingesting silica i would just like to be sure before i vape away. Someone should do a study that's way more experienced than i am and post the results. Happy night vapers!!
yeah, sure.
seeing that stuff turn granulate was enough for me. The youtube I watched, it was all over his fingertips....no thanks. You'd have to have quite a screen to filter that out, we are talking hepa-filter grade screens.I'm one of those people who don't do high temp vaping (I think risks go up) or silica (anymore) or diacetlys (anymore) or heavily flavored juices. I started diluting my juices just a "tad" to save $$ and after about 10 days I was totally used to less flavoring, which then allowed me to try unflavored for at least 1/2 the time now.
We can all customize our vape to whatever we want it to be. If you are risk adverse, you can do like I do, if you aren't, then enjoy whatever YOU enjoy.
No point arguing about that kinda stuff, some people salt their food, others don't; some people take 81mg aspirin a day, some don't, some people believe in vitamin supplements, others don't.
I do not want vaping to take away from me what cigarettes did, so I opt to be extra-careful. I am also older and had more years to do *damage* to my lungs, so I baby them now.
I believe all effects of what we do are cumulative, like sun damage, it doesn't show up til years later.
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I've been using Japanese organic cotton exclusively. I've found that after using an RDA - the Nautilus doesn't cut it for me anymore. Has an almost metallic taste to the vapor....pretty unpleasant.
How flirty.
I like it. Lightens the air a bit in here.She/he does have a neat avatar.
well, rayon does out wick ... cotton
and wicks on the same level as Ramie fiber. Degummed Hemp fiber wicks damn fine too, and gives a nutty accent to ones vape. Frak, once one can consistently build and wick, any changeable is, umm, a pif item
Though their quality has jumped up in the last year, but not ever gonna buy one. I went from cotton>>degummed hemp fiber>>ramie fiber. Have tried rayon, tis ok, pretty decent actually, though ramie is rot resistant and heat proof, a more durable fiber that won't flash bang on ya if vaped dry and hit with high power a tad to long
. Just saying
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