Vapers beware ( fiberglass?? Really?????

[FallenRawToast]

With silica or with the ceramic used in the new BVC coils, really the key to both is to keep them wet.

As long as you are keeping them juiced up, there is no reason you should be inhaling any fine particles.

 

[dice57]

Yeah, and if you stay between the lines, and are a defensive driver, tis purrfectly safe to commute to work and back, but accidents happen.

 

[James Wilson]

This all kinda reminds me of when I used to hear people say there was fiberglass in menthol analogs. lol. It never stopped me from picking up a menthol when I needed a cig or just really wanted a menthol. I would say on something like this though if it really bothers you then look into the subject harder. Back when i first that about menthol analogs it wasn't so easy to look up the information as it is these days. Many times someone hears one thing, they spread it to another without confirming and before you know it someone has blown it out of proportion.

 

[DFYLR]

There are going to be risks associated with vaping. No way around that. Safer alternative does not mean "zero chance of harm". You could rebuild your BVC with cotton, if you want to make it hit like a clogged cigalike. I tried that but decided the whole "ruptured eyeball blood vessel" look just wasn't working for me.
I mean, it still works, just not like the standards. Or you could get an rda.
OR you could go back to analogs.
DON'T ANYBODY DO THAT. Please.

 

[Chuklz]

Yikes! Sticking to cotton

 

[Rickajho]

Wow. Only three pages and I'm totally lost on which baseless internet rumor we are talking about.

 

[XXYGuy]

Hello,

Well you can do a test, you can get some organic cotton and torch it, see if it catches fire. You can get some silica wick and torch it, see if it catches fire. In my experiment the silica did not catch fire but the cotton did. So if combustion causes hazardous gasses to be produced, then the cotton is a bad choice if you're regularly going to get it so hot it catches fire. Silica is glass, and I can't heat it up so much that it melts, so I figure something that easily burns is a worse choice than something that doesn't change one little bit when overheated.

 

[stevegmu]

yeah, sure. seeing that stuff turn granulate was enough for me. The youtube I watched, it was all over his fingertips....no thanks. You'd have to have quite a screen to filter that out, we are talking hepa-filter grade screens.

I'm one of those people who don't do high temp vaping (I think risks go up) or silica (anymore) or diacetlys (anymore) or heavily flavored juices. I started diluting my juices just a "tad" to save $$ and after about 10 days I was totally used to less flavoring, which then allowed me to try unflavored for at least 1/2 the time now.

We can all customize our vape to whatever we want it to be. If you are risk adverse, you can do like I do, if you aren't, then enjoy whatever YOU enjoy.

No point arguing about that kinda stuff, some people salt their food, others don't; some people take 81mg aspirin a day, some don't, some people believe in vitamin supplements, others don't.

I do not want vaping to take away from me what cigarettes did, so I opt to be extra-careful. I am also older and had more years to do *damage* to my lungs, so I baby them now. I believe all effects of what we do are cumulative, like sun damage, it doesn't show up til years later.

What I really don't understand is how some simply don't care...

 

[SpidaFly]

Concern over silica is actually the sole reason I got into rebuilding. Reduced cost and customizability came as added benefits (well, "reduced cost" WAS a benefit until I realized how many amazing toys there are out there )

100% organic cotton for me, and keep those wicks wet!

 

[maine vapah]

obviously vaping is not good for you no matter what the case you are putting something into your lungs that does not belong there but as im sure most of us started this journey to get away from cigs and its working i dont cough anymore i dont wake up with my lungs hurting i dont stink and i dont get winded so for me i understand there are risks but you cant tell me its not better than cigs

 

[holimakaru]

Wow. Only three pages and I'm totally lost on which baseless internet rumor we are talking about.

Fiberglass don't break down small enough to become imbedded in your lungs like asbestos. I was told this by a lung expert doctor I went to after some questionable xrays at work. Cost me $350 back in '74 to find out that the xray machine at work was too small for fat guys like me. That and technicians who were too inept to accurately read xrays.

 

[David1975]

Not to throw gas no the fire, but if silica scares you (does me BTW).... check out the concerns with brass (chromed or otherwise) and copper when used in the construction of atty's. Give you a hint... brass contains lead.

 

[dragonflie]

obviously vaping is not good for you no matter what the case you are putting something into your lungs that does not belong there but as im sure most of us started this journey to get away from cigs and its working i dont cough anymore i dont wake up with my lungs hurting i dont stink and i dont get winded so for me i understand there are risks but you cant tell me its not better than cigs

Pretty much my thoughts too. Except I do go a bit further with my thinking.

When I can go outside and breathe air that's not got any car exhaust fumes in it, I might worry more about the vapor. When I can afford to eat nothing but organic foods that are all made from scratch, I might worry more about the vapor.

Even most non nic users ingest dozens of unnatural chemicals every day, or pop a Tylenol sometimes (TERRIBLE for your liver BTW, and there is scientific evidence to back that up, despite being approved for sale ). Some of us need prescription medications, and ALL of them will come with some sort of disclaimer that the prescribing doctor has determined that the benefits outweigh the risk. We all expose ourselves to things every day that we take for granted aren't truly safe despite being 'legal.' Unless you live in a bubble off the grid raising your own protein and growing your own organic food, and riding a bike only where there's no cars allowed, you spend every day exposed to multiple chemicals that can cause harm.

I don't really see vaping any different. Putting anything foreign into your lungs isn't good for them. But for me it's way better for them than cigarettes. My lung function has exponentially improved.

I hope at least some of this made sense... I normally express myself very well but woke up in the middle of the night and am not very coherent LOL

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[twall]

Diacetyl and WTA in your juice, fiberglass in your wick, lead in your atty. Almost like I've traded one bad habit for an only slightly less bad habit.

But, I breathe better, too - like so many others have stated. Plus, also lost my ever-present cough. Don't miss that one bit. I'll probably be sorry when I get zombie lung (or whatever nickname it has this week) and start coughing up insulation, but until then....I'm gonna keep enjoying my vaping, and my flavors. Which are all either buttery or creamy. So it's probably 80% diacetyl and snake venom, watered down with petroleum distilates, and given nicotine just for the kick.

I'm sure it's unsafe as hell. Because it made quitting smoking just a little too easy.

 

[DFYLR]

Zombie lung! Is that a condition caused by vaping where your lungs stop working, then start working again only to start consuming your own brains?
Somebody call the FDA! THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!!!

 

[TFL!]

This thread has some info on silica.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ilica-wicks-if-anyone-interested-dangers.html
There was a big thread on this board sometime ago on it. but can't find it now.

 

[Davey59]

I remember reading someplace the Marlboro filters were worse than all others for particulates too.

I am not the least bit concerned. Not even slightly.

I would think that an organic that can catch on fire would be far worse for you to breath. I also think I could come up with a very long list of things eaten and inhaled that might actually be worth worrying about. But I won't and I don't.

I think we have people moving into camps for the divide. We have the loss of tax revenue people. We have the selling an addictive drug with almost guaranteed profits for life worried their party is over guys. And we have the busy body control freaks just ...... someone may have their cake and eat it too. All with motives to spread fear.

 

[eratikmind]

Personally, in the full spirit of harm reduction, I make 90% of the juices that I vape and only use cotton, now. This affords me peace of mind. I will continue to adjust my own vaping equation, as required.

 

[stevegmu]

It really seems shocking how some vapers simply don't care. The mantra that at least it's better than smoking is a joke. At least some are willing to be guinea pigs...

 

[Siochanai]

I tend to avoid scilica. I have been using organic cotton to wick and it is working great in my dripper. A buddy of mine used organic cotton in his kraken tank and it worked really well. The op post is the reason I avoid it. Not necessarily fiber glass but i did here on the youtube vine that the wrong type of scilica or scilica which is overheated can give off harmful particles. I think crystalized scilica wicks was the major concern.