Vapers beware ( fiberglass?? Really?????

[Warpigs]

hmm, i don't use the type of tank, but I hope mine doesn't have fiberglass. Does not say anything about it in the description 5mL PBC Tanks.

 

[Davey59]

Delete double.

 

[Davey59]

It really seems shocking how some vapers simply don't care. The mantra that at least it's better than smoking is a joke. At least some are willing to be guinea pigs...

Really, you are here, have a mod in your avatar, what do you use for wick?

 

[K_Tech]

Wow. Only three pages and I'm totally lost on which baseless internet rumor we are talking about.

Sometimes I wish Reddit would just be quiet for a few days.

I seriously want to see video proof of someone exhaling a vape with particles of "fiberglass" in it.

 

[twall]

Sometimes I wish Reddit would just be quiet for a few days.

I seriously want to see video proof of someone exhaling a vape with particles of "fiberglass" in it.

I must say, when I see some of these vaping "scares", it appears to start on Reddit.

Be it diacetyl (which no one seems to know conclusively what the exact problem with it is, or what PPM is considered 'safe') or fiberglass in the wick, fear seems to fester on Reddit like black mold.

I refuse to be afraid.

 

[gandymarsh]

I used to do a lot of insulating with fiberglass, roofs and walls. Of course, I (almost) always wore a dust mask but I'm sure I inhaled some fibers.

The tiny amount that might come from vaping doesn't worry me much. I've inhaled lots of stuff in my life that's probably worse.

I do think cotton wicks much better than silica so I use it for rebuilding and I keep it wet.

 

[VannyPak]

I used to do a lot of insulating with fiberglass, roofs and walls. Of course, I (almost) always wore a dust mask but I'm sure I inhaled some fibers.

The tiny amount that might come from vaping doesn't worry me much. I've inhaled lots of stuff in my life that's probably worse.

I do think cotton wicks much better than silica so I use it for rebuilding and I keep it wet.

Amen. I used to work in a fiberglass plant breathing in those fibers and smoking a pack a day. I survived just fine so this doesn't really bother me.

 

[twall]

After all, people - these are VAPORIZERS, not crack pipes. We are not using butane flame to vape. Some of the stuff people get so worked up over only atomize at MUCH higher temp than your average clearo is going to ever get to, no matter how bad you think your regulated device is. There are a lot of threads warning against using creamy/buttery flavors in a sub-ohm RBA that may very well get the diacetyl to atomize. However, the 'safe' level of atomized diacetyl is still yet to be determined. Even by OSHA, in the microwave popcorn plants. Since diacetyl is a butter flavor (even used in real butter) used in those plants, thus the name 'popcorn lung'. But they still can't for sure determine if it is just diacetyl or other chemicals in conjunction with it that causes the problem. So cool your heels, and don't tell the world the sky is falling.

If your wick is wet, I don't see how any fiberglass particles would ever even make it up the pipe, considering condensation which lines it within like 3 vapes, and remains until you clean it out. So, even if there WAS particulate matter that is signifigant enough to cause problems, it would have to atomize off a wet coil, get past a condensation-laden pipe through the tip, them get past your moist mouth and throat, and then lodge itself in your lungs in a large enough quantity to cause damage. Now, I am no professional on this subject, but that seems to be an awful lot for a fluffy asbestos-like particulate to overcome. Even more to be "exhaled".

Don't get scared over everything you read on the Interwebz.

 

[maine vapah]

It really seems shocking how some vapers simply don't care. The mantra that at least it's better than smoking is a joke. At least some are willing to be guinea pigs...

i prefer lab rats

 

[Coldrake]

Personally, I don't have a problem with the ceramic wick. But then I don't cut my atomizer open, tear it apart and crumble it between my fingers before I vape with it.

Some people just want to believe the lowest common denominator on the slightest whim without getting any actual facts.

Many times someone hears one thing, they spread it to another without confirming and before you know it someone has blown it out of proportion.

Yup. "Time to put the SvoëMesto KayFun-Russian rumors to rest".

 

[Ryedan]

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That SGS Certificate is interesting. Lots of chemical testing, but nothing on particles unless I missed it. If I'm correct, it's all smoke and mirrors.

 

[Ryedan]

Hello,

Well you can do a test, you can get some organic cotton and torch it, see if it catches fire. You can get some silica wick and torch it, see if it catches fire. In my experiment the silica did not catch fire but the cotton did. So if combustion causes hazardous gasses to be produced, then the cotton is a bad choice if you're regularly going to get it so hot it catches fire. Silica is glass, and I can't heat it up so much that it melts, so I figure something that easily burns is a worse choice than something that doesn't change one little bit when overheated.

My wicks do not combust. Neither cotton or rayon. Even at up to 30 watts on the coil.

IMO if your wicks are burning you're doing something wrong and should figure out how to fix it

 

[stevegmu]

Really, you are here, have a mod in your avatar, what do you use for wick?

I see. As I vape, it means I don't care what coils, wicks, wicking material, tanks, e-liquid... are made out of, or if they are harmful. Safer than smoking, so who cares... I really don't care what others use, dangerous or not. I'm not out so save anyone. Vape away. I just find it shocking so many who have quit smoking simply don't care what they are inhaling...

I prefer carto tanks, but like a good Alpaca wick in a Kayfun from time to time...

 

[dice57]

obviously vaping is not good for you no matter what the case you are putting something into your lungs that does not belong there but as im sure most of us started this journey to get away from cigs and its working i dont cough anymore i dont wake up with my lungs hurting i dont stink and i dont get winded so for me i understand there are risks but you cant tell me its not better than cigs

Heck, just the act of breathing is a case of putting unwanted gasses and chemicals into our lungs. Feel when one mixes their own juice and knows exactly what they are vaping, it's much more safe than breathing outside in many cities. Just saying

 

[Davey59]

Personally, I don't have a problem with the ceramic wick. But then I don't cut my atomizer open, tear it apart and crumble it between my fingers before I vape with it.

Some people just want to believe the lowest common denominator on the slightest whim without getting any actual facts.


Yup. "Time to put the SvoëMesto KayFun-Russian rumors to rest".

Worth more than a like, a reposted quote. Couldn't agree more. Very interesting bit on the Kayfun, thanks.

 

[Coldrake]

Heck, just the act of breathing is a case of putting unwanted gasses and chemicals into our lungs. Feel when one mixes their own juice and knows exactly what they are vaping, it's much more safe than breathing outside in many cities. Just saying

World Health Organization: Outdoor Air Pollution Causes Cancer

 

[Coldrake]

Worth more than a like, a reposted quote. Couldn't agree more. Very interesting bit on the Kayfun, thanks.

Thanks, and you're welcome.

 

[Warpigs]

If I had to choose vapeing and getting some fiberglass in my lungs compared to the thousands of chemicals/toxins in cig's. Well that's a no brainer. VAPE!

 

[Auntie Mame]

I see nothing wrong with being concerned about what it is. Having said that, unless someone with some real knowledge about fiberglass and similar materials says, Yes, this is fiberglass then all we have is a rumor. There are YouTube videos on how to rebuild them using japanese cotton, you can certainly still purchase the old duel coils-there are alternatives for those who are concerned enough to make a change but don't want to give up their nautilus.

Maybe we need out own Urban Legend/Vape thread- it could be a place to post the "rumors" and then add any info until someone actually proves it or disproves it. It could be a great source of information or a good laugh.

 

[stevegmu]

If particulates were of no concern, why, then, did Aspire place a screen in the BVCs?