Vaping around my 2 year old

[AndriaD]

Here's a question... how the heck are we going to convince the ANTZ that vaping isn't hazardous, if vapers don't seem to believe it?

Andria

 

[Ryedan]

Like I said, regardless of responses I will not vape in front of my son nor was I looking for a reason to. By "natural" I did not mean something that grows. Perhaps that was not the right word. I do not consider anything safe unless it is vital for my survival. That's a better way to put it. Pizza, soda, gum, etc etc etc are not considered safe to me because I do not NEED it. vaping is not safe, smoking is not safe, the face wash I use is not safe. That being said, I keep it all away from my son and was having a hard time finding solid results as to the health effects of second hand vapor and that was my primary focus of this post which is why I mentioned that I keep it away. My apologies if my wording was not the best.

I hear ya Joray. To my knowledge there is no indication today that second hand vapor could be harmful to anyone. Having said that I would not blow vapor in anyone's face.

I don't vape in front of my grandsons. Not because I think it might harm them physically, it's just not something I want them to possibly think of as a cool thing to be doing because grandpa does it.

 

[Rixsta]

I wouldn't especially if your liquid has nicotine. I saw some study that says some amount of nicotine is released into the air. Open your window a little in the car even if it's just you vaping. Far safer than smoking but not risk free.

I would love to see a link to this BS study, what a load of rubbish this is and even if some was released it would be so small, an ant won't be affected lol

 

[Rixsta]

Here's a question... how the heck are we going to convince the ANTZ that vaping isn't hazardous, if vapers don't seem to believe it?

Andria

here here, and uneducated vapers don't help either.

 

[David Wolf]

I would love to see a link to this BS study, what a load of rubbish this is and even if some was released it would be so small, an ant won't be affected lol

haha I knew someone would challenge this. Tell you what you search for it and if you can't find the study I will try later I'm not doing your homework I'm sure it's a small amount but common sense should tell you that's no "if" that some amount of Nic would be released in that cloud lol

 

[Joray12]

I don't think it's a matter or vapor being harmless. I think it's a matter of a less harmful alternate than smoke and something like that should not be banned. Here is a (so far) healthier system that MAY keep cigarettes out of teens hands and may help smokers quit after years of struggling with it. It may just save some lives along the way as well. The government and organizations hate it because it isn't a money maker for them. There's no other reason to ban something that is healthier than smoking(the leading cause of death in the USA).

 

[Completely Average]

If you're vaping with your 2 year old son in the car in Texas you can get fined and be required to take a parenting class.

 

[Completely Average]

I would love to see a link to this BS study, what a load of rubbish this is and even if some was released it would be so small, an ant won't be affected lol

What do you think happens to the nicotine in your vapor? Do you think it all just magically disappears the instant you inhale it? What if you don't inhale the vapor and simply draw it in to your mouth and then blow it out? Does the nicotine magically disappear then?

Before you call it a BS study you should make sure you can explain in scientifically sound terms what you believe happens to the nicotine that we all know is in the vapor if you want to claim that there is no nicotine in second hand vapor. Everyone knows and accepts that nicotine is in the vapor when you inhale, and you exhale the same vapor, surely you don't believe that 100% of the nicotine is absorbed into your lungs. I'll point out that a 24mg juice has the same amount of nicotine in a single ml that is in a full pack of full flavored cigarettes, yet I know people who can vape 5ml per day of 24mg juice but would get nic-sick if they tried to smoke even 2 packs of cigarettes in a single day. Clearly you aren't absorbing 100% of the nicotine, so what happens to the rest of it?

And for the record...

Vapor from e-cigs contains less nicotine, toxins than tobacco: study - NY Daily News

Study performed by the Department of Health Behavior at the Roswell Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo, New York. Overall the study could be considered pro-vaping as it said nicotine levels in secondhand vapor is lower than tobacco smoke and that secondhand vapor contains far less particulate matter than tobacco smoke and that many toxins in tobacco smoke are not present in ecig vapor at all. It concludes that while ecig vapor is not entirely safe, it is a much safer alternative for both the user and secondhand exposure.

 

[nyiddle]

I wouldn't, not because of the fear of second-hand vapor, but because they'd potentially think it's cool.

Also:

If you're vaping with your 2 year old son in the car in Texas you can get fined and be required to take a parenting class.

There are about 10 or more states that have a law like this in effect (I remember the one going into effect about a year ago in Oregon).

 

[skoony]

What do you think happens to the nicotine in your vapor? Do you think it all just magically disappears the instant you inhale it? What if you don't inhale the vapor and simply draw it in to your mouth and then blow it out? Does the nicotine magically disappear then?

Before you call it a BS study you should make sure you can explain in scientifically sound terms what you believe happens to the nicotine that we all know is in the vapor if you want to claim that there is no nicotine in second hand vapor. Everyone knows and accepts that nicotine is in the vapor when you inhale, and you exhale the same vapor, surely you don't believe that 100% of the nicotine is absorbed into your lungs. I'll point out that a 24mg juice has the same amount of nicotine in a single ml that is in a full pack of full flavored cigarettes, yet I know people who can vape 5ml per day of 24mg juice but would get nic-sick if they tried to smoke even 2 packs of cigarettes in a single day. Clearly you aren't absorbing 100% of the nicotine, so what happens to the rest of it?

And for the record...

Vapor from e-cigs contains less nicotine, toxins than tobacco: study - NY Daily News

Study performed by the Department of Health Behavior at the Roswell Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo, New York. Overall the study could be considered pro-vaping as it said nicotine levels in secondhand vapor is lower than tobacco smoke and that secondhand vapor contains far less particulate matter than tobacco smoke and that many toxins in tobacco smoke are not present in ecig vapor at all. It concludes that while ecig vapor is not entirely safe, it is a much safer alternative for both the user and secondhand exposure.

no one is saying there is no nicotine in second hand vapor.
the amount is so small as to be barely detectable and of no concern of
it causing any health related issues. do you think a child is a nicotine magnet
or something. do the molecules of nicotine tear themselves away from the vapor
and penetrate into the deepest recesses of the child's body causing
irreversible brain damage?
want something to worry about? if the child's mother ate tomato's or
potato's during pregnancy,the child was born with nicotine in its system
already.
having said that i think it is up to the parent to make these kinds of
choices.
regards
mike

 

[zoiDman]

no one is saying there is no nicotine in second hand vapor.
the amount is so small as to be barely detectable and of no concern of
it causing any health related issues. do you think a child is a nicotine magnet
or something. do the molecules of nicotine tear themselves away from the vapor
and penetrate into the deepest recesses of the child's body causing
irreversible brain damage?
want something to worry about? if the child's mother ate tomato's or
potato's during pregnancy,the child was born with nicotine in its system
already.
having said that i think it is up to the parent to make these kinds of
choices.
regards
mike

Isn't Everything that a Vaper Inhales (Nicotine, Da/AP Flavorings, Non Da/AP Flavorings, Sweeteners, Colorants, PG and VG) also Exhaled only in Lesser Levels?

 

[Msand]

If your worried about nicotine. Then do not vape in-front of your child, also do not allow them to eat vegetables!

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[Virtuous Vaping Vampire]

what do yo think about this?

Airway test reveals e-cigarette vapor produces similar result as air | EurekAlert! Science News

 

[zoiDman]

If your worried about nicotine. Then do not vape in-front of your child, also do not allow them to eat vegetables!

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I wonder if the Nicotine Levels found in Fruits and Vegetables is the Same found in from 2nd Hand Vape in an Enclosed Car?

And if the Effects (either Good or Bad) are the same when you Eat Something vs. when you Inhale Something into your Lungs?

 

[Suryia]

Honestly, you shouldn't be doing it around the young ones at all. At the end of the day, we still dont really understand what the risks are yet. It could turn out to be harmless, but why use your kids as lab rats? There just have not been enough studies to determine one way or the other. Aside from the possible health effects, it also looks very bad from the perspective of a non-vapor, and it is unfair to give vaping an image of not caring for those around them. Basically, you will make us ALL look bad, whether it is warranted or not.

 

[Suryia]

Here's a question... how the heck are we going to convince the ANTZ that vaping isn't hazardous, if vapers don't seem to believe it?

Andria

Image plays a big part in it as well. It doesn't matter if it is safe or not. Ill give you an example: a pregnant woman goes to a liquor store and picks up a bottle of Vodka for her husband. Does it matter to an outsider whether or not she is in fact the one drinking it? Nope, because that is what they will assume.

 

[mare ze dotes]

Honestly, you shouldn't be doing it around the young ones at all. At the end of the day, we still dont really understand what the risks are yet. It could turn out to be harmless, but why use your kids as lab rats? There just have not been enough studies to determine one way or the other. Aside from the possible health effects, it also looks very bad from the perspective of a non-vapor, and it is unfair to give vaping an image of not caring for those around them. Basically, you will make us ALL look bad, whether it is warranted or not.

I agree with this for the most part. I have found that some eliquids will irritate my lungs and if they are capable of that, they may irritate others. Having said that, It does not bug my husband at all. Yet when the wee ones come to visit, I don't want to expose them.

 

[AndriaD]

Image plays a big part in it as well. It doesn't matter if it is safe or not. Ill give you an example: a pregnant woman goes to a liquor store and picks up a bottle of Vodka for her husband. Does it matter to an outsider whether or not she is in fact the one drinking it? Nope, because that is what they will assume.

Assuming that she in fact CARES what total strangers think. I smoked when I was pregnant... which sometimes meant hanging outside the OBGYN's office to puff a ..... What strangers who saw me thought of that is completely irrelevant to me; they don't have to live in my body, I do.

I've never understood changing one's behavior to suit onlooking strangers, and never will.

Andria

 

[Suryia]

Assuming that she in fact CARES what total strangers think. I smoked when I was pregnant... which sometimes meant hanging outside the OBGYN's office to puff a ..... What strangers who saw me thought of that is completely irrelevant to me; they don't have to live in my body, I do.

I've never understood changing one's behavior to suit onlooking strangers, and never will.

Andria

People like you are going to be the ones to ruin it for everybody with your I dont care attitude. You might not care, but a lot of us do.

 

[Jman8]

People like you are the ones that are ruining the IMAGE of vaping for everyone. Please get in line with the sheep. It's only natural.

For the record, vaping is 100% natural.