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Rocketpunk

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I wouldn't suggest dry burning anything.

Sometimes I wish I could teleport to wherever you guys are so I can see your own personal process of what dry burning actually is/does.

I've dry burned several heads. And ruined every single one. Don't think I'm being cocky here, I know how to follow directions. Did things to the T, be it written directions or youtube videos. And it always, 100% percent of the time, ruined my heads. I've been through six now. "User error" is moot at this point.

I still wanna sell my VVN dirt cheap!
 
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Marvin & Sennie

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I watched the video several times and I know I did it wrong!! and I was dry burning the vivi nova head.
I wouldn't suggest dry burning a dual coil cartomizer. Heck, I wouldn't even recommend dry burning anything, for that matter.

Sometimes I wish I could teleport to wherever you guys are so I can see your own personal process of what dry burning actually is/does.

I've dry burned several heads. And ruined every single one. Don't think I'm being cocky here, I know how to follow directions. Did things to the T, be it written directions or youtube videos. And it always, 100% percent of the time, ruined my heads. I've been through six now. "User error" is moot at this point.
 

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I have never ruined a coil doing it? I rinse them. I blot the wicks. I then put it on my PV and burn the coil a few seconds until it smokes. I let it cool. I do this until ALL the coils glow red - not white, just red. I may have to do this several times, but never more than a few seconds at a time. Once they are glowing red, believe me, they are dry! I have never started with a dry wick though... and I don't burn them for more than 5 or 6 seconds at a time.
 

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I have never ruined a coil doing it? I rinse them. I blot the wicks. I then put it on my PV and burn the coil a few seconds until it smokes. I let it cool. I do this until ALL the coils glow red - not white, just red. I may have to do this several times, but never more than a few seconds at a time. Once they are glowing red, believe me, they are dry! I have never started with a dry wick though... and I don't burn them for more than 5 or 6 seconds at a time.


And I've done the very same thing to my VVN, after reading posts like these, and it never worked.
 

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Question about dry burning...... do the heads (wicks) need to be wet? It was this morning but do I need to re-wet the ones I already soaked and rinsed before dry burning? The ones in the video were wet that's why I am not sure.

There are two sets of views on this that I've seen. I dry burn myself. Just did a couple before coming back to this thread actually. So I am rotating really - the ones I just washed are left to dry, and I dry burned some already dry ones. I have some that have lasted me a month now.
I think you may have a bit of gunk to get off yours, so it may take a few goes before the coils glow.
Then I fill them, leave them to wick, and then vape.
I also don't fill the vivi nova right up to the top - that is just my preference as I like to change juices, but I think it may help too.
 
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@ Rocket...are you still trying different juices or have you found your all day vape(s).

If nothing else the Vivi Nova is great to try new juices in even with the muted flavor.....just rinse and dry then dry burn and put in new juice.If you like it in the Vivi chances are it will be even better in your carto/tank.
 

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Ah - not that it matters if you are going to ditch the vivi anyway, but that is probably why the heads aren't giving a decent vape after cleaning. The smoke is the crud burning off. I repeat the dry burn until the coils glow. So I dryburn 5-6 seconds, and I usually blow onto the coil while doing it. Then rest it about 5 seconds, then repeat. I do it at 3.8 volts until no smoke and coils glow.
I do the same thing, except for the blowing on the coils part. The one time I did that, the coil popped immediately. It really is important to dry burn until you see the glowing coil. At first, you'll just see a red glowing glob. I dry burn until I can see at least some of the individual coils.

It took me a while to get the hang of dry burning. I vape the 2.4 ohm head at 4.2 volts and was using 4.2 volts to dry burn. I popped a lot of heads. I lowered the dry burn voltage to around 3.5 and quit popping coils. It takes a little longer to dry burn at the lower voltage and the heads don't get quite as clean but it works well enough and I quit buying so many heads.
 

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I started this journey over a month ago and while I like Mount Baker Mocha, it's my all day vape ONLY because it's tollerable at the end of the day. I've tried a lot of the others that were recommended and that 1 is 1 I ordered on accident and it's my fave. But with all the garbage I keep having to do and money we've had to spend and not get a vape I absolutely love? I just honestly don't see how this will ever become a hobby for the hubs and I. At this point it's just a means to an end to hopefully be completely off nic by April... sooner if I can do it. About 1/2 way through the day even my Mocha no longer taste yummy, because I vape dark juices I have to change out the heads on my vivi nova daily. It's just such a PIA!! I REALLY wish I could just put it all down completely and sell all this gear and juices. UGH!!!

I started 3 years ago... Im still at it and love vaping... I know what you mean about flavors though... Tried some..tasted good at first but then got sick of them.. I use 100% VG unflavored 30mg... If you stick with it it does become a hobby once you relize all the great vape equip. out there.... My favorite set-up is my Provari with a HH357 atty... I love to drip/ best taste and performance IMO...
 

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You may have had some bad experience with the cartotanks (DCT) due to the thickness/darkness of your juice. For something like what you like to vape with such high VG...you'll likely need a 3 hole punched cartomizer. Also, I believe the Smoktech cartos have "loose" filler that might absorb the VG stuff better since it's so thick. The Boge is packed much tighter. You also probably want to avoid dual coils in your cartomizers (should you ever try them again). They tend to burn and use up juice too fast and are hard on battery life. YMMV.

Personally, after trying earnestly for months to use the wick style tanks (like the VVN) I chucked them all and went back to cartomizers and cartotanks. I've been using the same carto tank units for several months and there's been NO leaking like someone else suggested. If you do happen to damage the O rings (can happen if the sharp edge of the cartomizer hits it...best to use a SYM tool or one of those long "filling tips" sold at a lot of places now. Protects the O ring.) you can buy replacement O rings easy. If you learn the easy "system" to fill the carto before loading it in the tank...then fill the tank then PRIME the carto in the tank...things will go amazingly smoothly. You need a high quality cartomizer, however. Or else keep a good supply of them around (they are relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things.) A lesser quality carto will work...but may not survive much past the first refill of your tank.

If you are determined to try to make those wick type tanks work...more power to you and good luck! I wasted a boatload of money on those things..fell for the all hype, and learned to "dry burn" and do all that other fiddling and fussing and changing and futzing etc.....and for me: NEVER AGAIN!
 

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You may have had some bad experience with the cartotanks (DCT) due to the thickness/darkness of your juice. For something like what you like to vape with such high VG...you'll likely need a 3 hole punched cartomizer. Also, I believe the Smoktech cartos have "loose" filler that might absorb the VG stuff better since it's so thick. The Boge is packed much tighter. You also probably want to avoid dual coils in your cartomizers (should you ever try them again). They tend to burn and use up juice too fast and are hard on battery life. YMMV.

With the Smokteks and high vg juice (I pretty much use Alien Visions exclusively, and my favorite juices are 10/90 pg /vg) 2 holes work just fine. The trick is priming the carto right the first time.

Personally, after trying earnestly for months to use the wick style tanks (like the VVN) I chucked them all and went back to cartomizers and cartotanks. I've been using the same carto tank units for several months and there's been NO leaking like someone else suggested. If you do happen to damage the O rings (can happen if the sharp edge of the cartomizer hits it...best to use a SYM tool or one of those long "filling tips" sold at a lot of places now. Protects the O ring.) you can buy replacement O rings easy. If you learn the easy "system" to fill the carto before loading it in the tank...then fill the tank then PRIME the carto in the tank...things will go amazingly smoothly. You need a high quality cartomizer, however. Or else keep a good supply of them around (they are relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things.) A lesser quality carto will work...but may not survive much past the first refill of your tank.

If you are determined to try to make those wick type tanks work...more power to you and good luck! I wasted a boatload of money on those things..fell for the all hype, and learned to "dry burn" and do all that other fiddling and fussing and changing and futzing etc.....and for me: NEVER AGAIN!

With the Smokteks and high vg juice (I pretty much use Alien Visions exclusively, and my favorite juices are 10/90 pg /vg) 2 holes work just fine. The trick is priming the carto right the first time.
 

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I started this journey over a month ago and while I like Mount Baker Mocha, it's my all day vape ONLY because it's tollerable at the end of the day. I've tried a lot of the others that were recommended and that 1 is 1 I ordered on accident and it's my fave. But with all the garbage I keep having to do and money we've had to spend and not get a vape I absolutely love? I just honestly don't see how this will ever become a hobby for the hubs and I. At this point it's just a means to an end to hopefully be completely off nic by April... sooner if I can do it. About 1/2 way through the day even my Mocha no longer taste yummy, because I vape dark juices I have to change out the heads on my vivi nova daily. It's just such a PIA!! I REALLY wish I could just put it all down completely and sell all this gear and juices. UGH!!!

Stop buying garbage and invest in one nice mod+rba or hybrid.

Nuff said.
 

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To the OP, I'm sorry I didn't read all the replies to your original post. I still have and often use my nova's. I've got both the mini's and regular size. I really don't vape a thick or dark juice. On a whim I bought 1 pyrex tank from IB Tank. (Yep I know it's already been said. LOL I read some of the post my the carto/tank users.). After I tried my first one within no time I now have 6 IB Tanks and also 2 Phiniac tanks. I've used prepunched coils and also learned to punch my own. (After I ruined my fair share). The difference is amazing. As far as finding a all day juice. Well that's all another topic for me. Every time I think I found it I get tired of it and vape something different. So at the moment I have 8 carto/tanks and also 4 nova's and 2 stardust each loaded with a different flavor. I guess I'm one that will never stop searching. I have to admit that all this has been a lot more fun than just buying a pack of cigarettes though. And I've had the pleasure of meeting some fantastic people along the way to. Wising you luck Marvin & Sennie.
 

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1 thing I have learned through this process is that 1 person's trash truly is another person's treasures. :) does any 2 people on this forum agree on EVERYTHING? Nope, everyone has their own preferences for everything. I originally purchased the Zmax for both the hubs and I to use at home. He doesn't care for it because its bulky, I don't find the size too big and use it exclusively. He prefers higher PG juice and I prefer 50/50. He likes cherry flavored juices and I prefer sweet coffee flavors. 3 things we both agree on... Dual coil carto's, knock off's, and grape flavored juice, they all suck. lol
 

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Holy WOW that's a lot!! The biggest issue for me is the $$ and the time it takes to receive orders! It would be sooo much easier if we had an actual real live walk in the door vape shop here that carried a variety but as far as I know the only 1 is 7th Heaven and they are pretty exclusive to dealing only Vapors Corners stuff and that is EXTREMELY frustrating!!
 

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How does 1 prime it correctly?

Carto tanks? (If not, just ignore me) I use this method: How To Fill A Cartomizer Tank - YouTube However, I was adding the "fill it with the condom" method to it, which I just discovered I was doing incorrectly. I was filling the top end, but PBusardo fills it from the bottom and he is The Man). (In the video he's filling a regular carto, but it works the same for a tank one): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PICBRi37Zs0

When using a carto tank, I can't recommend this little puppy highly enough! It makes changing cartos and filling tanks a breeze: Slap yo Momma Multi-Purpose Adapter - YouTube
 
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