Some are hopelessly addicted to their smart phones. There's a guy at work who is halfway out the door because he can't go 15 minutes without checking his phone. He'll be fired by Thanksgiving.
Vaping at the movies....
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Some are hopelessly addicted to their smart phones. There's a guy at work who is halfway out the door because he can't go 15 minutes without checking his phone. He'll be fired by Thanksgiving.
Before the bans, the movie houses were packed. Saturday matinees held all the brats while us parents ran errands, paying a teenager to keep an eye on them. Teens watching kids. Yep.
The blockbuster movies had lines 3 blocks long.
Halloween held special midnight scarey shows.
Popcorn, soda, candy, were expensive compared to elsewhere, but still affordable.
Since the bans? Empty theaters. No matinees. No Halloween specials. Snack bar so expensive, nobody much buys. Many have closed altogether.
They raised the prices of tickets and snacks, to pay for the movie rental, because not enough patrons to help with the cost anymore. Non smoking ANTZ get to pay for the missing smokers patronage. Now even they won't go. They think we smokers should pay that much, every day, for a pack of smokes, yet they won't she'll out that much once a week for a movie. They forced businesses to close, not us banned smokers now vapers.
Yes, there is a huge economical backlash.
All politics aside, please don't sit in front of me blowing cirrus clouds so I can't see the screen. Hmpf! Being height-challenged I have enough trouble seeing over big hair.
You know what? Stale smoke stinks, yes. But a burning cigarette? Not so much. They sting the eyes, like a campfire does, true. When I smoked, standing off all by my lonesome, I was constantly approached by non smokers, who would converse me up the ying yang. Whenever I'd apologize for the breeze blowing my smoke their way, you know what'd they say? They'd say, "oh, don't apologize! My Mom used to smoke, the smell triggers her beautiful memory, like a certain songs and meals." They never hated the smoke for "destroying" their loved ones, they missed the smell of their loved ones.
Today, the ANTZ use that same "stinky" line, with vaping.
Stale vapor smells just as fresh as fresh vapor and fresh vapor smells out of this world delightful. They need a new gag. A gagging order.
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People who walk up to you and talk to you while you're smoking don't mind the smell? Remarkable...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias
What's so remarkable about it? It's wasn't stale, it was fresh.
Just because it never happened to you don't mean it's a fairy tale.
"It's okay! I don't mind. Really! My Dad used to smoke." I heard it so often, I thought they were just being nice. Quite refreshing, people being nice. But looking back, now that I'm a Vaper, & I cross paths with a lit cigarette, I feel comfy thoughts too as I flashback on my Mom, Brother, Aunts, Uncles, Friends, who smoked. It's a trigger. To deny a scent triggers fond memories, is as biased as denying a song can trigger memories.
We live in a time where everyone is offended by absolutely everything. Not only are people offended on their own behalf by the slightest thing, they now get offended on behalf of people who don't care what they're supposed to be offended by.
If you want to give them fuel for the fire go into movie theatres and other public places and vape away and their 'offend-ometer' which was already at exploding point as they sit patiently waiting for the next new thing to take offence to will actually explode into tiny pieces and their complaint won't be about you it will be about vaping, everything to do with vaping, all vapers, the guy who originally invented vaping and anyone and everyone who ever thinks about vaping or even mentioning the word in their presence.
They will then go online and spread the hate and all their Brothers In Arms waiting to be offended by 'well, just something, anything will do' will join their cause and make our lives hell.
If that floats your boat, go ahead, vape anywhere and everywhere. Just don't come in here and complain about the consequences.
If you want to give them fuel for the fire go into movie theatres and other public places and vape away and their 'offend-ometer' which was already at exploding point as they sit patiently waiting for the next new thing to take offence to will actually explode into tiny pieces and their complaint won't be about you it will be about vaping, everything to do with vaping, all vapers, the guy who originally invented vaping and anyone and everyone who ever thinks about vaping or even mentioning the word in their presence.
They will then go online and spread the hate and all their Brothers In Arms waiting to be offended by 'well, just something, anything will do' will join their cause and make our lives hell.
If that floats your boat, go ahead, vape anywhere and everywhere. Just don't come in here and complain about the consequences.
There will always be difference in opinions. Many want to vape anywhere/everywhere and others want to have respect for others. I know vaping is not smoke and many are not educated about it but what about people who might be sensitive to it? They have a right to see a movie too. I am not saying I am against vaping in theaters but I do think IF you choose to do so you should stealth vape. IMO Everyone pays to be there and shouldn't have to watch through clouds if they don't want to.
As for the addiction comments made, I am addicted! I could go a couple of hours without vaping as I do when I am working. I vape so I do not smoke! Smoking is an addiction and I am working on it but yes, I vape a lot!
As for the addiction comments made, I am addicted! I could go a couple of hours without vaping as I do when I am working. I vape so I do not smoke! Smoking is an addiction and I am working on it but yes, I vape a lot!
Four citations of BCMV in this thread. But no proof.
Generic, you have been restrained, I count only a single straw man for your part in the thread.
Ban Causing Militant Vapers (BCMVs) are a myth. I don't believe them. None of you should. I would link in my blog on this, but my participation here is by way of my phone...
Bans are caused by ANTZ, not vapers.
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Generic, you have been restrained, I count only a single straw man for your part in the thread.
Ban Causing Militant Vapers (BCMVs) are a myth. I don't believe them. None of you should. I would link in my blog on this, but my participation here is by way of my phone...
Bans are caused by ANTZ, not vapers.
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Big Pharma and Big tobacco have a lot more than 2 cents riding on the matter. And they're spending it.
Anyone who think it's about anything other than money is very sadly mistaken. It's about two things - money and control. And those predisposed to be controlled dismiss the first factor out of hand.
I've vaped in every restaurant, theater, arena and airport I've been in over the past several months. And other than the locations where is was expressly permitted, no one knew. No sheep were harmed in the making of this vapor.
It's perfectly possible to believe that money, power and ideology distort democratic process, but that public perception still matters.
So yeah, annoying people won't help - it really is as simple as that.
(just warming up for the night Edd, don't you worry)
So yeah, annoying people won't help - it really is as simple as that.
(just warming up for the night Edd, don't you worry)
Not saying it's true for everyone, but I went to more movies per week prior to the smoking bans than I currently do on a yearly average. And I never went alone.
I wait and watch movies on HBO or Showtime with a vape and a beer, free from talkers and noisy kids.
They've made it clear. They don't want my money. Fine. I won't burden them with it.
I've said it before and will repeat it ad infinitum for those who don't (and probably will never) get it. If there is a market for non-smoking theaters, bars and restaurants, there will be non-smoking theaters, bars and restaurants. Let the business owners make their decisions so the consumers can make theirs. It's pretty simple. Outlawing things because people simply don't like them is bad law, and worse precedent. It cannot lead to anything good.
I don't go to the movies often because I'd rather save money (that I could spend on vaping lol) and watch them at home. The last two times I did go however, I stealth vaped and we sat in the back. I am all for vaping in public, but there's a time and a place for everything. Vaping clouds in a theater could be a bad thing. Besides being annoying by clouding people's view of the movie, it's dark in there so people could (and probably would) think you're smoking.
I already covered this in earlier post on this thread. It is their house and their rules. And because some of their rules are ludicrous and their prices steep, seeing movies in a theater isn't worth it a lot of the time, IMO. If there rules were less ludicrous, the money wouldn't be an issue for me. I'm not into pirating movies and very much like rewarding artists and studios for great films when they make them, by seeing them in a theater, where films are meant to be enjoyed. Watching a film in a theater in 1979 is vastly different experience than it is in 2013. The quality of screens and film has increased, so you'd think the experience would be much better. IMO, it is worse, but tolerable. It just has to be one that must be seen on the big screen for me to consider going, and those are like 5 a year. In '79, I would've enjoyed seeing Kramer vs. Kramer on the big screen because of my love for going to the theater. Now, that type of film is not one that I think is worth going to the theater to see with 'their house, their ludicrous rules' in play.
Love the use of "your" in the statement above in making your point. Thanks for humoring me. And thanks for calling me pretty.
Cause I've vaped zero times in a movie theater since I've been vaping? I'm sorry everybody. I'll try to vape more often in theaters. Or were you referencing BCMV's as post #70 so rightly points out?
I love films, like passionately. Have made one myself. But I don't go to the theaters much anymore. So your point, if a theater owner is reading along, needs to be realized that it goes two ways. In my experience in last 10 years, if I'm watching film in theater and it's opening week, and it's a hyped up movie, the theater will be kinda crowded. That's happened about 30% of the time I've been at the movies in that time frame. The other 70% of the time, it kinda sorta felt like I owned the theater cause I pretty much had the whole place to myself. That's gotta be great for the bottom line. When a guy who only goes to the theater about 3 times a year is the only one watching a film in that theater that day.
That's just wrong.. so wrong. I buy my soda at the snack counter and sneak little bottles of Knob Creek in. That is perfectly fine because they don't sell it so... Uh...
Yeah, I'm more respectful than you.
That was you! Man, I thought we'd never meet up again.
Anyway, I did what post #28 on this thread suggests. I went home that night and wrote to my local and state representatives regarding the shocking event I experienced. I told him about the militant parents that bring their kids to theaters which take away from the enjoyment of others, namely me. And I got a reply, letting me know they take such matters very seriously and they'd get right on it. So, in your neck of the woods or, hopefully everywhere on this planet, when you see legislation that bans militant parents from taking their kids to movies, you can all thank me for that one.
I'm sure that legislation will pass one day cause, you know, I'm a concerned citizen looking out for humanity and hoping everyone is respectful in a movie theater. And I'm sure that's how the system works, that my letter and the other 11 just like it, will ban kids from all movies shown in public.
Won't anyone think of the children?
Wow, I can not believe I just read through all of this thread! Must be bored….I did not read ONE response that someone stated they wanted to go into a movie theatre with their flashlight batt with their sub ohm dripper and totally fog out the joint. I DID however read that some one respectfully stealth a vape or two. To me that meant nobody knew they were vaping!!!! So here we are with the guilt ridden people telling those who do/did something no one knew about arguing points. lol
BTW, I confess, right here, right now. I stealth vaped in a theatre thursday and not one person knew, except my mother. And I gotta kick out of Last Vegas. Oh and I had a giant soda that cost me $9.00 and I didn't gain a pound, lol. Which is great because I don't want others to pay since apparently I'll be obese one day or something!!!.
BTW, I confess, right here, right now. I stealth vaped in a theatre thursday and not one person knew, except my mother. And I gotta kick out of Last Vegas. Oh and I had a giant soda that cost me $9.00 and I didn't gain a pound, lol. Which is great because I don't want others to pay since apparently I'll be obese one day or something!!!.
Seriously though, I never go to the movies anymore but assuming that I did for some reason then I guess if it wasn't crowded I'd probably vape. I vape all over the place and it never causes a scene but that's here. I've been places where people come out of nowhere choking and clutching at their throat if they see you light a cigarette but it's still pretty much live and let live around here.
Sodas too big...
Lulz
Sodas too big...
Lulz
Jman8: You know there actually are businesses where children aren't welcome, don't you?
You don't think that might have had something to do with the paying customers not liking the presence of the kids... complaining to the management about it?
Which side are you arguing for again?
You don't think that might have had something to do with the paying customers not liking the presence of the kids... complaining to the management about it?
Which side are you arguing for again?
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