Vaping at work may be banned...
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I vape all day long at my desk while at work. Then again my boss smokes reds like a freekin chimney in his office.... all - day - long.
Makes quitting that much harder.
Makes quitting that much harder.
It would most likely be banned until an NDA was filed and approved by the FDA. Ten plus years from now you'd probably have a case. However you probably wouldn't be interested in vaping what they'd approve anyway. Jmho
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I hate to say it, but if the FDA does make this a medical/drug delivery device (without banning it, of course), that would probably open a legal status for being able to vape at work. How can they deny you "medication" then?
Good point but youd have to find a doctor to give you a script.. Lol
Unbelievable that only one person really makes sense here. Go ahead and threaten them with a lawsuit, but you better start looking for another job, because I guarantee, they will start looking for a reason to get rid of you. Everything you do will be scrutinized, and any infraction, no matter how small, will be documented and used as grounds for termination.
You're dreaming. You might as well walk into HR with a big red 'fire me' sign on your forehead. Big Insurance has dictated, get smokers off your payroll, and that means those who use nicotine, too. HR is aware of this stance, because they administer the details of your insurance benefits, and...they actively incorporate this into their hiring practices. (It will also be the policy under 'universal' health care.) Not to mention, eliquid is a haz-mat. HR will not take a stand. You are barking up the wrong tree, as well as spotlighting yourself for termination.
Smoking (and vaping) is a voluntary choice of how to ingest nicotine. In states where Medical Marijuana is 'legal', people aren't sitting their desks and smoking their 'medication'; it's not gonna happen for vaping. either. Big INsurance aside, you'll still run up against OSHA for haz-mat and indoor air quality policies.
Despite the perpetual motherly smile on the face of your HR director, their job is to limit the liability of the company and immediately find a reason to get rid of anyone making ripples in the company pond. My personal favorite career-killer is, 'unable to assimilate in a corporate environment.' We are not your friends. Act accordingly.
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So mix it up with a protected class, say you are some kind of minority, or are gay, then if they try to fire you, you can say it was because you are whatever, or gay..
I've been lurking for a few weeks here.. just started vaping about a month ago...
but I've gotta chime in on this subject...
I work the corporate convention circuit and work with basically just the executive staff i.e. VP of whatever department, Pres., CEO, CFO, etc of the top Fortune 500 companies....
so far, most of these Executives are quite fascinated with this "e-cig"! I ran into one of these guys in the elevator on a job with a bunch of his associates and he had me demonstrate vaping to his crowd - strange in itself - but they all loved it!
Anyhoo... these guys seem to be OK with this when you explain what it actually is to them. I've noticed that it's when some pee-on that get their panties in a bunch trying to exert some sort of little power they think they have, is when trouble starts to brew.
On another front - I was on a plane last week and asked the flight attendant if I could vape... she knew what it was - and told me that "legally" I could but she didn't feel like explaining to the other passengers what I was doing... I told her I was more than willing to get on the mic and let them know for her - but no avail... she ended up giving me a couple of cocktails for free (I know, something free on a plane???) for her non-permission.
Until more people know about, it hard to say which way the acceptance will fall...
but as long as I have access to a few corporate tops, I will do my best to spread the word - scouts honor.
but I've gotta chime in on this subject...
I work the corporate convention circuit and work with basically just the executive staff i.e. VP of whatever department, Pres., CEO, CFO, etc of the top Fortune 500 companies....
so far, most of these Executives are quite fascinated with this "e-cig"! I ran into one of these guys in the elevator on a job with a bunch of his associates and he had me demonstrate vaping to his crowd - strange in itself - but they all loved it!
Anyhoo... these guys seem to be OK with this when you explain what it actually is to them. I've noticed that it's when some pee-on that get their panties in a bunch trying to exert some sort of little power they think they have, is when trouble starts to brew.
On another front - I was on a plane last week and asked the flight attendant if I could vape... she knew what it was - and told me that "legally" I could but she didn't feel like explaining to the other passengers what I was doing... I told her I was more than willing to get on the mic and let them know for her - but no avail... she ended up giving me a couple of cocktails for free (I know, something free on a plane???) for her non-permission.
Until more people know about, it hard to say which way the acceptance will fall...
but as long as I have access to a few corporate tops, I will do my best to spread the word - scouts honor.
Smart. Keep it low keyed. If it ever comes to a head, make an intellegent presentation to 'the boss' based on logic...like less breaks, more productivity, & no second hand smoke. That's about the best most can do right now.
Hi I'm a newbie to electronic cigarettes but I have been allowed to smoke in my office which I share with others. I think it takes time for the people to adjust to the new technology of smoking, same like mobile phones and computers.
JZ
JZ
This job description is pretty much on point; worth repeating and remembering!
Hell, I work IT. User support mainly. So I am away from my desk a lot.
I vape to problems and from them.
When at my desk, I blow plumes, and plumes.
The only issue I have had is when I made some LorAnn "Chocolate Mint" (yes it said "chololate mint" on the PG based fluid on the bottle) two co workers complained that it was bugging their eyes. That was the best stuff for a throat hit! I changed back to fruity crap for work. I plume away with my StraightThroughUSBbattBoxMod and the director of my department once stated "I mean it's only vapor, it's not like he's smoking" so I am OK. He is pretty down to earth, the company is privately owned, but the head of HR is... let's just say an .... dude... um, well and so is his man. He is my only worry.
I work on the 3rd floor (out of 3 floors, mainly all execs aside from my department, but "we have their passwords" hehee).
Keep us informed...
I do not know how they can take away your "inhaler". They cannot for Primatene Mist, and you could argue that the nic helps calm your asthma.
I vape to problems and from them.
When at my desk, I blow plumes, and plumes.
The only issue I have had is when I made some LorAnn "Chocolate Mint" (yes it said "chololate mint" on the PG based fluid on the bottle) two co workers complained that it was bugging their eyes. That was the best stuff for a throat hit! I changed back to fruity crap for work. I plume away with my StraightThroughUSBbattBoxMod and the director of my department once stated "I mean it's only vapor, it's not like he's smoking" so I am OK. He is pretty down to earth, the company is privately owned, but the head of HR is... let's just say an .... dude... um, well and so is his man. He is my only worry.
I work on the 3rd floor (out of 3 floors, mainly all execs aside from my department, but "we have their passwords" hehee).
Keep us informed...
I do not know how they can take away your "inhaler". They cannot for Primatene Mist, and you could argue that the nic helps calm your asthma.
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I think that this is the best approach by far. Non-confrontational. You can rarely win an argument (and there will be one sooner or later if permission isn't given in advance) when someone picks it. At most you'll be able to not lose which isn't the same as winning by a long shot. To win the argument avoid it. Wait until someone is curious and then explain it when they want to listen.
As an added bonus for stepping outside with the smokers, the chances of one of them being curious is high (you'll have to wait longer for non-smokers to become curious but a lot of smokers will be curious immediately) and you're likely to get an opportunity to swell our ranks.
I just treat it like an analog, I go outside. To me it just dosn't look professional to be blowing clouds of vapor at my desk in front of a bunch of people, plus it's good to get ouside and away from the desk.
My husband was on the cardiac unit at a big hospital this last week. I vaped in his room but when someone would come in his room I put it down. No one even knew I was vaping. My son recently flew out of town and they had a rule that ecigs were not allowed.
I have kept my e-cig extremely low-profile, practically secret, since vaping at work.
I found a sort of compromise place to do it: at the rear exit door (as usual) but on the other side of it! (i.e. INSIDE instead of outside -- during the cold season anyway). Those who have seen me take my vaping breaks there haven't had an issue with it, in fact they were rather intrigued by the device. Management doesn't know yet, but then they never follow me to my smoke breaks anyway.
I am not allowed to close or lock my office door, but during slow hours when people aren't walking around the hallways that much, I will go ahead and vape at my desk.
I found a sort of compromise place to do it: at the rear exit door (as usual) but on the other side of it! (i.e. INSIDE instead of outside -- during the cold season anyway). Those who have seen me take my vaping breaks there haven't had an issue with it, in fact they were rather intrigued by the device. Management doesn't know yet, but then they never follow me to my smoke breaks anyway.
I am not allowed to close or lock my office door, but during slow hours when people aren't walking around the hallways that much, I will go ahead and vape at my desk.
Please think about it carefully before taking a chance at work!
The first day I took my ecig to work I used it openly at my desk inside my cubicle which I don't share with anyone else. I got bombarded with questions but a few people were interested in trying it and every body else was very positive about it. Or so I thought. The very next day I got a visit from the director of our HR dept (who never-ever deals with us "little people" directly) and she told me flat out it was unacceptable. I tried to explain how it worked the benefits etc etc and no dice. Two days later HR issued notice of an amendment made to the employee handbook regarding the smoking policy, which is now very specific and unbelievably restrictive. She really covered all the bases.
Can't tell you how terrible I feel to know that I ruined it not only for me but for anybody else who might have wanted to try an alternative. Unfortunately at least for now sometimes stealth vaping might be the best option.
The first day I took my ecig to work I used it openly at my desk inside my cubicle which I don't share with anyone else. I got bombarded with questions but a few people were interested in trying it and every body else was very positive about it. Or so I thought. The very next day I got a visit from the director of our HR dept (who never-ever deals with us "little people" directly) and she told me flat out it was unacceptable. I tried to explain how it worked the benefits etc etc and no dice. Two days later HR issued notice of an amendment made to the employee handbook regarding the smoking policy, which is now very specific and unbelievably restrictive. She really covered all the bases.
Can't tell you how terrible I feel to know that I ruined it not only for me but for anybody else who might have wanted to try an alternative. Unfortunately at least for now sometimes stealth vaping might be the best option.
I don't see how I could vape inside (at work) without people getting all bent out of shape. . I use VG mainly and blow huge clouds. I can't imagine the people I work with seeing Hiroshima style clouds emitting from my area, its honestly more obvious than smoking a regular cig. The heavy vg stuff, after a session, the vapor just sits in the air too. My .02
Thenk goodness I work in a back office. I can hear if someone is comming. If I just took a puff a quick wave in the fog and it's gone. I have only told a couple of trusted co-workers about it and they think it's great. I am very careful so the "big wigs" don't find out.They all think I quit last year (which I did but started again this March). What they don't know won't hurt them. Now if I was told I couldn't do it here, I would continue anyway since they have had no idea that I've been vaping in here for over 7 months. I would just be alittle more careful about not having my "lab" setup in the desk drawer and keep my stuff in my purse.
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