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Glad you got at least a bit of good today. Hang in there, and remember there's always someone willing to listen here.


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I know. It is one of the reasons I like this place so much. I recommend it to everyone I meet that is either a vaor or getting into vaping. People here have done a lot for me. i appreciate everything everyone has done to help me.
 

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Glad things are looking up for you. Things can keep getting better but happiness is a choice you make. You have to choose to be happy. I know it's hard, especially for someone suffering depression, but think of what makes you happy and try to do at least one thing a day that will make you happy. Quit thinking about everything that makes you unhappy and look for the things that can make you happy. Try to be positive and look for the positive in every situation. You say you want to work but you want a real job. Any job is a real job and you just have to make an effort to be the very best at that job that you can be even if it is drying off cars at the local carwash or sacking groceries at the local grocery store, money in your pocket can be a great lifter of spirits. If you have a bad back look for jobs you can do. Primp yourself up, put a smile on your face and get out and introduce yourself, shake hands and look people square in the eye. Volunteer work is a great place to meet people and network with others and can lead to a real paying job, plus you will be helping others and that can make you happy. Do you belong to a church? If so GO to church get out and meet people, if not a church find a social group to go to, just get out and go. Like someone else said, take a walk and get out of the house. Wave at the neighbors, say hello to a stranger. Live your life, you are the only one with the solution to your problem, take that first step. Good Luck to Ya.
 

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ty. I always had issues finding that board so i hadn't visited it.

Your welcome, James. I hope things improve for you. I'm in similar financial straits, though I'm lucky to have enough juice to last me another month or so.
If you haven't already, I strongly suggest entering every vendor contest on ECF. I started doing that when I joined up and got loads of free juice. It's a great way to try juices you might not otherwise be able to, as well as making new friends.
Good luck, man.
 

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Glad things are looking up for you. Things can keep getting better but happiness is a choice you make. You have to choose to be happy. I know it's hard, especially for someone suffering depression, but think of what makes you happy and try to do at least one thing a day that will make you happy. Quit thinking about everything that makes you unhappy and look for the things that can make you happy. Try to be positive and look for the positive in every situation. You say you want to work but you want a real job. Any job is a real job and you just have to make an effort to be the very best at that job that you can be even if it is drying off cars at the local carwash or sacking groceries at the local grocery store, money in your pocket can be a great lifter of spirits. If you have a bad back look for jobs you can do. Primp yourself up, put a smile on your face and get out and introduce yourself, shake hands and look people square in the eye. Volunteer work is a great place to meet people and network with others and can lead to a real paying job, plus you will be helping others and that can make you happy. Do you belong to a church? If so GO to church get out and meet people, if not a church find a social group to go to, just get out and go. Like someone else said, take a walk and get out of the house. Wave at the neighbors, say hello to a stranger. Live your life, you are the only one with the solution to your problem, take that first step. Good Luck to Ya.

Being happy is my main goal these days. I do what i can to get through each day. I have done crappier jobs such as bagging at kroger which turned out to be more work then it was worth. They do so much around the store for such little pay that they are essentially store slaves. i worked there until july of last year where i had put up with enough crap there. Quitting wasn't the smartest choice but after how I was being treated by management when I was dealing with a concussions, I had enough. I saw just how unappreciated i was there and i was completely miserable. The place was worse to work for then walmart. It isn't like I don't put in at what some might call lesser jobs. I apply for them as well. Even put in for goodwill. The problem is it is all the same thing. Lame excuses to not give me interviews when I call or if I get one, lame excuses to get off telling me i didn't get the job. I always fix myself up nice for them too and I do have a resume. I make sure to submit it when putting in my applications.
 

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I went into a temp agency 12 years ago with the single marketable skill of being able to type fast. That landed me a data entry temp job, then I got hired full time, then they liked me and saw my potential and now I'm in software solutions development and support. It all starts somewhere.

That's how I got my first 'real' job, too! I could type like a speed demon and got a job as an A/R clerk..the company hired me permanently six months later and accounting jobs just went on from there.
 

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No offense James, but speaking as someone who has worked in retail management, I think your attitude has a lot to do with your problem. You cite Employers as giving lame excuses for not hiring you when you should ask yourself why they did not hire you. I look for a pleasant positive attitude and someone who expresses a desire to advance with the company. Once you are hired I expect hard work and a pleasant attitude. I turn away people who make excuses and complaints. You say that Krogers did not appreciate you, but did you appreciate them. What do you tell potential employers when they ask why you left a previous job? Admittingly it does not look good to leave a job unless you are moving on to bigger and better things. But the correct responses in these interviews is to not make excuses and complain about the way you were treated. You can explain that you had personal or family problems that have since been resolved and tell them what your goals are and how you can achieve them with this company and what you can do for the company. You have been to interviews, so you know what questions will be asked. make a list of questions and then your answers, then get dressed as if you are going to an interview and interview yourself in front of a mirror. If you can tape it and play it back even better. Then ask yourself what the company is looking for and how you can fill that role. Then ask yourself, if you would hire you. That is the best advice I can give any job applicant. I wish you luck, now it is all up to you. Only you can pick yourself up and no, you won't get rich overnight, but you can take one step closer.
 

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No offense James, but speaking as someone who has worked in retail management, I think your attitude has a lot to do with your problem. You cite Employers as giving lame excuses for not hiring you when you should ask yourself why they did not hire you. I look for a pleasant positive attitude and someone who expresses a desire to advance with the company. Once you are hired I expect hard work and a pleasant attitude. I turn away people who make excuses and complaints. You say that Krogers did not appreciate you, but did you appreciate them. What do you tell potential employers when they ask why you left a previous job? Admittingly it does not look good to leave a job unless you are moving on to bigger and better things. But the correct responses in these interviews is to not make excuses and complain about the way you were treated. You can explain that you had personal or family problems that have since been resolved and tell them what your goals are and how you can achieve them with this company and what you can do for the company. You have been to interviews, so you know what questions will be asked. make a list of questions and then your answers, then get dressed as if you are going to an interview and interview yourself in front of a mirror. If you can tape it and play it back even better. Then ask yourself what the company is looking for and how you can fill that role. Then ask yourself, if you would hire you. That is the best advice I can give any job applicant. I wish you luck, now it is all up to you. Only you can pick yourself up and no, you won't get rich overnight, but you can take one step closer.


For my interviews everywhere I go I go in wearing a dress shirt, dress pants and a good attitude. i am polite and i try not to be nervous which isn't always easy. This is of course when i get an interview at all. With goodwill when I tried the hiring manager said she had to talk to the store manager about setting up an interview. She took my name and number and said she would call back which she never did. In my experience at Kroger, it was horrible. Let's start with the interview. When I called and set it up, the women doing the hiring noticed i had some stocking experience and we got an interview set up. She never mentioned bagging. I went in and she said "As I told you on the phone this is for a bagger position" I had to force myself to not walk out right then or tell her off for her not having have told me that. I'd have taken the interview regardless but it was a sign they didn't have their stuff together. I let it go. After the interview I had to wait to hear back from them. Background check took a while. I didn't even know I had the job until 2 days after christmas when she called me and asks me why i wasn't at work. She said "I thought you were coming in this morning" No one had called me and told me anything. I explained this to her. Then I got myself ready and went in anyways. I found out later from another bagger with the same first name that he was suppose to be in that morning that she had thought i was to be in. He just started there too. At that point I realize they may have been mixing me up with him the entire time. But I do my job. I work my .... off for 7 months at kroger. I would go in, try to have a good attitude. I would put on a smile, i'd be polite and helpful to customers. Since your in retail I assume you know what baggers have to do. For those that don't know, baggers have to bag, get carts, change trash, sweep floors, sweep sidewalks, sweep the parking lot, shovel snow, put items back on the shelf, do price checks, do carry outs, clean spills, clean bathrooms, wash windows, collect alcohol caps, collect plastic bags, help clean up the registers and pretty much anything else management wants you to do. I went in and gave it my best every day. In my 7 months there I never had a single customer complaint about me. Here is what happened on the day I quit. The weekend before I was on a waterslide at Holiday World when I had a raft flip on me. Monday came around and I called in because the concussion was starting to set in. I didn't go before cause I didn't feel bad. I saw a dr, got a dr's notes. Was diagnosed with a small concussion. I was off tues. I go in weds. I am still feeling out of it from the concussion. My entire time at work I kept feeling like I was going to pass out but I knew they needed me there and I wanted to do my job. I was working slower then I usually did. One of the assistant managers understood when I had talked to him about why i was slower. I was frustrated with myself though for not being able to do better. Well when I went over to bag groceries for a cashier who had just gotten in, I was telling her what happened to me. Talking helped to keep me away. Now the cashier had just gotten the first item scanned as I finished telling her. At that moment (this is after the other assistant manager left), another assistant manager named chris yelled at me in front of everyone saying "Don't talk to the cashier. That's why your not getting promoted". Let me say one thing. We just had a bagger get promoted to cashier and she was one of our laziest baggers and she would talk to cashiers all the time. She was friends with the people in charge of front end though. Anyways this pisses me off. He ends up sending me to do plastics. I get the plastic bags collected in less then 10 min. After that I go back to bagging. Now when we are trained, we are told to put items in a new cart so that the customer goes through quickly unless there is a kid in the cart or they ask you not to. I had just put all of a ladies groceries in a new cart except a few cases of pop. As I go to move them over she suddenly says "Put all that back in this cart." Now I am already in a bad mood and frustrated. I try to explain I had already moved it and she kept insisting getting rude. Finally I agreed and started moving it over. She then says "get out of the way. I will do it". So I walked away and began bagging for another cashier. A little bit later I get called to the front office. I go in there and that assistant manager is sitting up on a file cabinet with his lefts crossed a little trying to look intimidating. He asked me what happened. I explained what happened. I explained I handled the situation badly and it wouldn't happen again. He then ask "How hard is your job?" I explain to him how I am feeling that day and why. I explained I was frustrated with myself for not working at my usual speed. He proceeds to ask me the same question again. Again i explained. He just kept saying the same thing back like a broken record. After the 5th or 6th time I had enough. I saw just how much they actually appreciated me. I worked my .... off their for 7 months and this is how I was treated. Even Walmart never treated me this badly. I felt more appreciated there then I did at Kroger. I was having issues keeping conscious, I was dizzy and they didn't care. I would have agreed to a right up. Hell I should have just demanded to see a union rep then. But how I was feeling at the moment, after all that I only saw 3 options in my head. Cry, beat the crap out of him, or walk out. So I said "F this S I quit." Notice I said the actual words there. Then I turned around and just walked out. As I was walking out I heard him say "And there it is" As I was leaving a friend of mine that was in there heard the front staff ladies laughing about it. Joke was on them though. Store went to hell after that. For at least a month gobacks weren't getting done, the parking lot of a night was constantly filled with carts and I am not sure trash or anything else was getting done right either. One of the cashiers who hated most of the baggers cause of how lazy many are and didn't really like anyone around there told me "They lost one of their best baggers" High compliments from this women since she never gives them at all. I was prob one of the few that actually had her respect. She usually got put on overnights. Worst position for cashiers there. On their lunches and breaks they had to stay at the uscan. They couldn't go off like they were supposed to be able to. They had to work even when on those. Our Kroger sucked to work for. Hell in just a 2 weeks they had lost I think like 6 employees in the entire store. The really funny thing is I actually enjoy working retail. I like working with customers and helping them to have a more pleasant experience.
 

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For my interviews everywhere I go I go in wearing a dress shirt, dress pants and a good attitude. i am polite and i try not to be nervous which isn't always easy. This is of course when i get an interview at all. With goodwill when I tried the hiring manager said she had to talk to the store manager about setting up an interview. She took my name and number and said she would call back which she never did. In my experience at Kroger, it was horrible. Let's start with the interview. When I called and set it up, the women doing the hiring noticed i had some stocking experience and we got an interview set up. She never mentioned bagging. I went in and she said "As I told you on the phone this is for a bagger position" I had to force myself to not walk out right then or tell her off for her not having have told me that. I'd have taken the interview regardless but it was a sign they didn't have their stuff together. I let it go. After the interview I had to wait to hear back from them. Background check took a while. I didn't even know I had the job until 2 days after christmas when she called me and asks me why i wasn't at work. She said "I thought you were coming in this morning" No one had called me and told me anything. I explained this to her. Then I got myself ready and went in anyways. I found out later from another bagger with the same first name that he was suppose to be in that morning that she had thought i was to be in. He just started there too. At that point I realize they may have been mixing me up with him the entire time. But I do my job. I work my .... off for 7 months at kroger. I would go in, try to have a good attitude. I would put on a smile, i'd be polite and helpful to customers. Since your in retail I assume you know what baggers have to do. For those that don't know, baggers have to bag, get carts, change trash, sweep floors, sweep sidewalks, sweep the parking lot, shovel snow, put items back on the shelf, do price checks, do carry outs, clean spills, clean bathrooms, wash windows, collect alcohol caps, collect plastic bags, help clean up the registers and pretty much anything else management wants you to do. I went in and gave it my best every day. In my 7 months there I never had a single customer complaint about me. Here is what happened on the day I quit. The weekend before I was on a waterslide at Holiday World when I had a raft flip on me. Monday came around and I called in because the concussion was starting to set in. I didn't go before cause I didn't feel bad. I saw a dr, got a dr's notes. Was diagnosed with a small concussion. I was off tues. I go in weds. I am still feeling out of it from the concussion. My entire time at work I kept feeling like I was going to pass out but I knew they needed me there and I wanted to do my job. I was working slower then I usually did. One of the assistant managers understood when I had talked to him about why i was slower. I was frustrated with myself though for not being able to do better. Well when I went over to bag groceries for a cashier who had just gotten in, I was telling her what happened to me. Talking helped to keep me away. Now the cashier had just gotten the first item scanned as I finished telling her. At that moment (this is after the other assistant manager left), another assistant manager named chris yelled at me in front of everyone saying "Don't talk to the cashier. That's why your not getting promoted". Let me say one thing. We just had a bagger get promoted to cashier and she was one of our laziest baggers and she would talk to cashiers all the time. She was friends with the people in charge of front end though. Anyways this pisses me off. He ends up sending me to do plastics. I get the plastic bags collected in less then 10 min. After that I go back to bagging. Now when we are trained, we are told to put items in a new cart so that the customer goes through quickly unless there is a kid in the cart or they ask you not to. I had just put all of a ladies groceries in a new cart except a few cases of pop. As I go to move them over she suddenly says "Put all that back in this cart." Now I am already in a bad mood and frustrated. I try to explain I had already moved it and she kept insisting getting rude. Finally I agreed and started moving it over. She then says "get out of the way. I will do it". So I walked away and began bagging for another cashier. A little bit later I get called to the front office. I go in there and that assistant manager is sitting up on a file cabinet with his lefts crossed a little trying to look intimidating. He asked me what happened. I explained what happened. I explained I handled the situation badly and it wouldn't happen again. He then ask "How hard is your job?" I explain to him how I am feeling that day and why. I explained I was frustrated with myself for not working at my usual speed. He proceeds to ask me the same question again. Again i explained. He just kept saying the same thing back like a broken record. After the 5th or 6th time I had enough. I saw just how much they actually appreciated me. I worked my .... off their for 7 months and this is how I was treated. Even Walmart never treated me this badly. I felt more appreciated there then I did at Kroger. I was having issues keeping conscious, I was dizzy and they didn't care. I would have agreed to a right up. Hell I should have just demanded to see a union rep then. But how I was feeling at the moment, after all that I only saw 3 options in my head. Cry, beat the crap out of him, or walk out. So I said "F this S I quit." Notice I said the actual words there. Then I turned around and just walked out. As I was walking out I heard him say "And there it is" As I was leaving a friend of mine that was in there heard the front staff ladies laughing about it. Joke was on them though. Store went to hell after that. For at least a month gobacks weren't getting done, the parking lot of a night was constantly filled with carts and I am not sure trash or anything else was getting done right either. One of the cashiers who hated most of the baggers cause of how lazy many are and didn't really like anyone around there told me "They lost one of their best baggers" High compliments from this women since she never gives them at all. I was prob one of the few that actually had her respect. She usually got put on overnights. Worst position for cashiers there. On their lunches and breaks they had to stay at the uscan. They couldn't go off like they were supposed to be able to. They had to work even when on those. Our Kroger sucked to work for. Hell in just a 2 weeks they had lost I think like 6 employees in the entire store. The really funny thing is I actually enjoy working retail. I like working with customers and helping them to have a more pleasant experience.

This might sound harsh but if you are expecting a beautiful career from an entry level position you aren't being realistic.

Expect courtesy and professionalism but don't expect respect.

If you want respect fom employers, co workers, or anyone you must earn it first.
Respect is earned, not freely given.

Expect to be tested, and challenged.

Be happy for an opportunity to prove your worth.

You really are the master of your own destiny.
 

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Do you have a lawn mower?? Start knocking on doors!

My first business (I was 10 at the time) was stripping Cascara bark. (you do know what Cascara bark is used for) ;)

The neighbors had some of these in their back yard.
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Those White Willows bought my school clothes all through high school. (organic Aspirin)

There were lots of mature Oak trees in the neighborhood. I always paid for Christmas when I was a kid by harvesting the Mistletoe from them.

So look around, a little imagination goes a long ways.

This was my thought, sorta -- my husband kept us in groceries thru all the economic disasters in recent years by mowing grass, trimming bushes, digging out hardpan gravel and clay for people to make gardens. One reason he likes to have a truck instead of a car is for all those times when people want to move things, and are delighted to know someone with a truck who'd really appreciate making $20. One reason we stay kinda flush in the spring and summer is doing yardwork on the weekends; everything from hauling/shoveling gravel to picking up bales of pinestraw and then spreading it, or any other kind of landscaping/handyman jobs. Somewhere, there is someone who needs something done, and will pay you to do it.

I can sympathize a great deal with being broke, and unfortunately I'm also one of those 'just give up' people; fortunately my husband is not.

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So many replies. To those saying I suffer from depression. i mentioned that already. I have been dealing with it for a long time. Your also right confidence is part of it. But it isn't all of it. I also won't go through a temp agency because all the places out here they want to send you to warehouse work and as i explained before, my back wouldn't be able to handle. Don't think the rest of my body could handle it either and I don't want to end up crippled 10 years from now. As to why I didn't get workman's comp, it wasn't an all at once hurt. It happened over the time I was working there and has steadily gotten worse since then. At the time i just loaded up with ibuprofen and just went on with my work. Considering I can't afford a lawyer I always felt I wouldn't have a chance against their high prices lawyers. As for medical, I have tried medicaid. I have applied and been denied. I am to the point I am considering disability though. A lot of people think I am bi-polar (runs on dads side) and might be able to get on it for that. I have read up you can also get on it for depression. I just don't like the idea of being forced to see shrinks or them pushing meds I really don't want on me. Also I would prefer to earn the money I make but at this point, any income would be better then none. Once I get things figured out, whether I find work or somehow else get money coming in, I may look into making my own juice and the legality of doing so in Indiana. In other news I did just get 10 bucks from my mom for my birthday. Sadly it is too late to get any juice and for the best deal on it, it's better to order online. All we got in town is a tobacco store that sells some vape stuff and they are overpriced on their juices. So I will likely stick it in the bank Monday and order. A couple nice people on here are sending me a little bit of juice and the first of it should be here monday or tuesday. If i can try to stretch out what little i got until that juice comes in, then I can just order with this money some juice online and it will take a couple days to get here.

Reapply for the medicaid. Also if you going to try for disability you should consult a disabiity lawyer. If they agree to help you they will get a percentage of your initial payment. So you would not need to pay upfront. A disability lawyer will increase your chances of not being denied. Which social security often does to all applicants in the hope that they will give up trying to apply.

You should look into a temp agency. Just let them know your limitations. They are not going to want to match you with something that does not fit. It can't hurt to try. The worst that can happen is that they have nothing available for you.

Have you considered going back to school? You could get pell grants and student loans to pay for it and there is usually a good amount left to help cover other costs.
Most community colleges also help students find part time work while going through school.
 

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I was a store manager for a major grocer. I hated it, worst professional experience of my life. So again, I hear you. Grocery stores can be soul sucking. But first, lower your expectations. You aren't going to have the most professional experience in a high turn over, entry level position. It's probably not fair, but you're actually pretty fortunate if the manager even knows your name in the first month because courtesy clerks come and go so fast. Second, that was yesterday and now it's time to focus on tomorrow. What do you want and what small step can you take to get there today?

What are your strengths, what are your weaknesses? Put up with crap today while planning for tomorrow.

In the meantime, check out your local Facebook resale pages. What things are people looking for? I sell home baked goods through mine. I see people sell delivery services, all sorts of things. Offer to drive the elderly to medical appointments for a fee, help them get groceries. I don't know, but.someone has a need you can fill.

Do the crappy, menial stuff today while planning a better tomorrow.

Most of all, don't give up on.yourself. NEVER give up on yourself.
 

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I was a store manager for a major grocer. I hated it, worst professional experience of my life. So again, I hear you. Grocery stores can be soul sucking. But first, lower your expectations. You aren't going to have the most professional experience in a high turn over, entry level position. It's probably not fair, but you're actually pretty fortunate if the manager even knows your name in the first month because courtesy clerks come and go so fast. Second, that was yesterday and now it's time to focus on tomorrow. What do you want and what small step can you take to get there today?

What are your strengths, what are your weaknesses? Put up with crap today while planning for tomorrow.

In the meantime, check out your local Facebook resale pages. What things are people looking for? I sell home baked goods through mine. I see people sell delivery services, all sorts of things. Offer to drive the elderly to medical appointments for a fee, help them get groceries. I don't know, but.someone has a need you can fill.

Do the crappy, menial stuff today while planning a better tomorrow.

Most of all, don't give up on.yourself. NEVER give up on yourself.
I was a "courtesy clerk" for a year. It was a good small chain, and I even had an in with management because my father was manager of another location. The job still sucked, that's the nature of the beast. When your job is to basically do ANYTHING that needs to be done, it just wears you out.

You're right though, you have to just move past it. Do what you need to do so that you can do what you want to do.
 
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