Vaping destroying my stamina?
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I smoked for 37 years and switched to vaping about 3 years ago. My doctor has seen significant improvement in my health, he thought I was developing COPD before I switched. I have also noticed a significant improvement in my cardio capacity when I cycle and when I do physical work.
So, you're not active anymore. Maybe this is why you're seeing a decrease in cardio ability?
I would never suggest a non-smoker take up vaping. I know people who have done so for other health benefits and I explained the risks of vaping to them so they could make an informed decision.
As I said I smoked for 37 years and then successfully switched to vaping. In 9 months I weaned myself off nicotine and these days I use a bit once in a while for the TH. I don't find it addictive even though I was once extremely addicted to cigarettes.
The only way you're going to know if vaping is affecting you is to get off it for a week or three. You vape 1 ml a day. You could have a slight dependance on vaping, but in my experience it can't be much of one.
Suck it up missiondrago, your health is at stake here. Either stop vaping for a while and see if that makes a difference, start training again and see if that helps or go see a doctor
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Interesting Topic..
My answer may be a bit skewed, as I believe I'm just stressed with work concerns.. but...
Vaping for about a month now,
Used to have 3 - 5 cheap cigars per day ( past two years or so )
Prior to that almost a pack a day newport 100's. Even more on a busy or party-esque day <----- smoked cigs longer than ten years prior to cigars
cigars were supposed to help / help me quit ahhahaa yea right
But get this....
Generally ( past ten or so years [yes while smoking] ) average 2.5 hours a the gym at least 4-5 nights per week,
No cardio just hard Krazy lifting
I have a fast metabolism so weight gain thing yea yea....I should run for my heart whatever ..
since vaping ( like I said maybe stress from current work project)
Haven t been too interested in hitting the gym..
Granted I'm a bit fixated on my new vaping hobby.... coils, juices
mods VV / VW box mods,, wraps for my IPV3,, New tanks,, new Kayfun V4 clone blah blah..
but when I have hit the gym recently - specifically steam room
and forced that hard inhale to validate Im ok there (lungs) ,, it just feels fuller better cleaner
like I'm making progress...
So were saying your imbibing more nicotine that you did previously since you were never really a smoker
It does contract your blood flow and thusly the lung concern as well..
My answer may be a bit skewed, as I believe I'm just stressed with work concerns.. but...
Vaping for about a month now,
Used to have 3 - 5 cheap cigars per day ( past two years or so )
Prior to that almost a pack a day newport 100's. Even more on a busy or party-esque day <----- smoked cigs longer than ten years prior to cigars
cigars were supposed to help / help me quit ahhahaa yea right
But get this....
Generally ( past ten or so years [yes while smoking] ) average 2.5 hours a the gym at least 4-5 nights per week,
No cardio just hard Krazy lifting
I have a fast metabolism so weight gain thing yea yea....I should run for my heart whatever ..
since vaping ( like I said maybe stress from current work project)
Haven t been too interested in hitting the gym..
Granted I'm a bit fixated on my new vaping hobby.... coils, juices
mods VV / VW box mods,, wraps for my IPV3,, New tanks,, new Kayfun V4 clone blah blah..
but when I have hit the gym recently - specifically steam room
and forced that hard inhale to validate Im ok there (lungs) ,, it just feels fuller better cleaner
like I'm making progress...
So were saying your imbibing more nicotine that you did previously since you were never really a smoker
It does contract your blood flow and thusly the lung concern as well..
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It's possible, but I try not to go there until there's more indication that's what is happening. I've seen some OP's that really looked that way turn into completely different issues in the end too.
It's possible, but I try not to go there until there's more indication that's what is happening. I've seen some OP's that really looked that way turn into completely different issues in the end too.
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I'm buying this-- assumption because when I went last week to do mid weights high reps
it felt like nothing ..... Can't wait till this project is over and all my krap is finally here from Fasttech.
And I can get back to eating like a pig and throwing around steel at the gym
this time without a cigar after a great workout !!!
I'm buying this-- assumption because when I went last week to do mid weights high reps
it felt like nothing ..... Can't wait till this project is over and all my krap is finally here from Fasttech.
And I can get back to eating like a pig and throwing around steel at the gym
this time without a cigar after a great workout !!!
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So you cut down on your exercise?
You also are using menthol which I have heard is a lung irritant?
My first guess is that a reduction in activity plus aging is resulting in lower lung function. My second guess is that your lungs are sensitive to something in your vape. I have met some asthmatics which have had improved lung function after they started vaping, and prior to their smoking. In other words their lungs were better than they had ever been even after smoking for a few years and then switching to vaping.
If you are that concerned go to a doctor or buy an incentive spirometer or other lung exercise equipment, and use it.
Perhaps you are correct but I find his posts to be rather inconstant with each other. I only offer an opinion and I concede that, as much as I would like my opinions to be fact and always correct, they are not fact nor (gulp) always correct..
My opinion is exactly opposite. I had the same effect after a week or two of high vg. It took about another two weeks of 70/30 mix before it cleared up. Anyway, it might help to know the OP's pg/vg ratio. Pg problems are more common, but seem to involve either harshness in the throat, sore throat, or genuine allergic reaction - which can be quite serious for some people.
I hope he at least knows the percentage of his base liquid. I have seen stuff sold without the percentages being noted. I declined to buy any.
I would concur with the opinion above. When you don't do something a much as you once did you aren't going to be able to do it as easily. That is plain and simple. Unless you just stopped playing more often last week this would be the main possibility for a contributing factor.
You said you vape 1 ml a day... that's not much at all. If you're experiencing problems with your throat, I think you should go see a doctor.
wow thankyou for all the helpful responses! i think its the vaping as a non smoker and that i havent been as active.
sorry if i was contradicting myself, in my mind smoking a few cigs=non smoker definitely not trying to troll here
sorry if i was contradicting myself, in my mind smoking a few cigs=non smoker definitely not trying to troll here
PG is just always blamed. I used to get the heavy chest feeling with Johnson Creek VG liquid. Loved the flavors, but just couldn't vape it. Too heavy...
A few cigarettes here and there doesn't make a smoker, as far as I am concerned.I don't consider myself a smoker, and I smoke 6-12 cigarettes/year...
I don't know why that opinion would be asinine, unless the OP had no experience with ECF or similar forums.
Some obvious points got missed, and some got brought up, but not stressed enough.
1: You're vaping menthol. Menthol can be an irritant. If your throat is also bothering you, it's a good bet you're causing a very slight inflammation in the mucous membranes and wet tissues that your vapor is in contact with. Inflammation can both make the process of breathing less pleasant as well as decrease the efficiency.
2: The vapor does not consist only of "water vapor" as is erroneously quoted. There's glycerin in that cloud. Try exhaling your vapor for two days onto the same drinking glass. Then wait an hour to allow any water condensation from your breath to evaporate off. Then take that glass and compare it to another that didn't get your vapor. You are coating your lungs with glycerin while vaping. The upside is the glycerin is much more soluble, as compared to cig tar, making it feasible that your body's natural maintenance systems will have a much easier time keeping on top of that problem. You're also not depositing fine particles from combustion into the tar. Nor are you displacing oxygen in your blood with carbon monoxide from combustion. Those are three of the measurable ways vaping is known to not cause the -specific types- of harm that smoking does. Thad doesn't make it harmless.
3: Vaping has a dehydrating effect. Unless you're pretty seriously on top of your hydration level, it's pretty easy to live and operate at a generally lessened hydration state, but not necessarily dire degree of dehydrated. If you are less hydrated than you were, you will absolutely notice a difference in athletic performance on a lot of fronts, cardiovascular being one of the easier ones to notice.
4: There are a whole host of other variables that could be in play. How's your sleep been lately? How old are you? Have your eating habits changed? Run out of multivitamins last week, and forgot to pick up a replacement bottle? etc, etc, etc.
5: If none of the above seems to you to sufficiently pinpoint your issue, (or even if it does, for that matter) a visit to your physician is ALWAYS a good idea when you notice a palpable difference in your overall wellbeing.
1: You're vaping menthol. Menthol can be an irritant. If your throat is also bothering you, it's a good bet you're causing a very slight inflammation in the mucous membranes and wet tissues that your vapor is in contact with. Inflammation can both make the process of breathing less pleasant as well as decrease the efficiency.
2: The vapor does not consist only of "water vapor" as is erroneously quoted. There's glycerin in that cloud. Try exhaling your vapor for two days onto the same drinking glass. Then wait an hour to allow any water condensation from your breath to evaporate off. Then take that glass and compare it to another that didn't get your vapor. You are coating your lungs with glycerin while vaping. The upside is the glycerin is much more soluble, as compared to cig tar, making it feasible that your body's natural maintenance systems will have a much easier time keeping on top of that problem. You're also not depositing fine particles from combustion into the tar. Nor are you displacing oxygen in your blood with carbon monoxide from combustion. Those are three of the measurable ways vaping is known to not cause the -specific types- of harm that smoking does. Thad doesn't make it harmless.
3: Vaping has a dehydrating effect. Unless you're pretty seriously on top of your hydration level, it's pretty easy to live and operate at a generally lessened hydration state, but not necessarily dire degree of dehydrated. If you are less hydrated than you were, you will absolutely notice a difference in athletic performance on a lot of fronts, cardiovascular being one of the easier ones to notice.
4: There are a whole host of other variables that could be in play. How's your sleep been lately? How old are you? Have your eating habits changed? Run out of multivitamins last week, and forgot to pick up a replacement bottle? etc, etc, etc.
5: If none of the above seems to you to sufficiently pinpoint your issue, (or even if it does, for that matter) a visit to your physician is ALWAYS a good idea when you notice a palpable difference in your overall wellbeing.
Really no problem dude as we are are here to help people, but people can't become defensive and argumentative when we actually start pointing out known facts. Many people in this forum are very into this and we even have our own how to make juice sections using the raw chemicals, so we may not know everything but there is a good chance after years of doing this we have a good grasp on whats going on.
This isnt a simple " check out this hooka pen" club, you can go find those guys on reddit lol. we have equipment builders, Medical people and many of the actual manufacturers of these products floating around in our ranks. ECF over the years has even been the launching point for pro vaping advocacy and lobbying groups.
This community and website has been here a while now, vaping is just becoming popular in the past year or so but ecf has been here since the early days.
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Cleaned up a lot of snark, off topic and rude posts. 
We do not treat members like this.
Might help to know what percentage of PG/VG, besides the fact that he is using a menthol liquid.
OP, if you are worried, you might want to visit a doctor.
We do not treat members like this.
Might help to know what percentage of PG/VG, besides the fact that he is using a menthol liquid.
OP, if you are worried, you might want to visit a doctor.
Hate to admit it but I'm right there with the OP. Been vaping for just over a year now and my stamina is completely shot. I'm getting worried myself, seeing my dr. in a few weeks for a full work up to see if anything can be determined.
I'm not sure if it is possible but I feel as though I sleep but my body doesn't feel as though I have slept. I know that too much nic late in the day or night will give me insomnia so I cut way down later in the day but I am perpetually exhausted and feel like I'm buried under 100 feet of water no matter what I do.
Do I need to eat better? Yes. Do I need more exercise? Yes. Has it been a brutal winter restricting activity? Yes. Even taking all of this into account I haven't been very active the last few years anyway so the change is extremely evident and relevant. While I can breath more deeply and don't cough like I used to I feel like I am getting less oxygen somehow. Maybe it is how I vape, what I vape, how much I vape, but it is disconcerting at the very least.
I'm not sure if it is possible but I feel as though I sleep but my body doesn't feel as though I have slept. I know that too much nic late in the day or night will give me insomnia so I cut way down later in the day but I am perpetually exhausted and feel like I'm buried under 100 feet of water no matter what I do.
Do I need to eat better? Yes. Do I need more exercise? Yes. Has it been a brutal winter restricting activity? Yes. Even taking all of this into account I haven't been very active the last few years anyway so the change is extremely evident and relevant. While I can breath more deeply and don't cough like I used to I feel like I am getting less oxygen somehow. Maybe it is how I vape, what I vape, how much I vape, but it is disconcerting at the very least.
Missiondrago and to others, you don't have to inhale into lungs to get the benefit of nicotine which in vaping is absorbed by soft tissues in mouth and nose. Think this is why it was so easy for me to change over. I was a "shallow" smoking person! 
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