Vaping failed the test. Very disappointed!

[LowerJerZey]

First off, this site is great. I've been reading this forum constantly, researching the ins and outs and made my first purchase. A 510 with a pcc from esmokeyshack.com. Great customer service.

I'm sorry to say, and really bothered by saying it, but I'm really doubting this thing delivers any nicotine at all. Out of anticipation of trying my 510, I didn't smoke all day. Around 10PM, I finally got to try it. It came with ry4 mediums(11mg). Tastes OK, but not my cup of tea. Well, while using it, something was missing. First off, this was my first "cigarette" all day. And second, around this time of night, a cigarette's laxative property would cause me to have to hit the head. The e-cig gave me none of that. I puffed the hell out of it. Nothing. I was hitting this thing hard, and yes I was take long slow pulls and giving it time to wick. I was getting that throat hit. Still got nothing. I even tried holding in all the vapor. Nada. I didn't even get the littlest tiniest sensation of having to go. Hmmm. OK. Let me test this. I went into my garage and lit up a cigarette. One puff and boom, there it was, and it came on strong. Just one puff. ONE! So basically, vaping the hell out of an e-cig(I pretty much finished the cartridge) couldn't produce what one hit of a cigarette did, especially for not having a single cigarette all day. I even got woozy and all from one drag. I really truly feel defeated.

But, I'm not going to stop. I'm actually vaping away as I'm typing this. And it's funny that the ry4 is actually growing on my. My wife hates the smell of it and is making me use it in the garage, but she's in bed now. I really think that it will help me quit smoking entirely. It definitely covers the mental and physical aspect of having to smoke. But, I have my doubts about satifying the nicotine addiction. I read that cnn.com article about e-cigs and the body not absorbing the nicotine. Sorry, but I think it is true.

I'm not a hater, I actually bought stuff from tastyvapors and can't wait to taste them. Hey, maybe I got a bad batch that doesn't have any nicotine. My true test will be when I get my order from TV. I'm going to make one of my non-smoking friends puff on the e-cig. If it really works, he'll turn green, just like one drag of a real cigarette would. We'll see.

Thanks for listening. I'm here to stay.

 

[Timtam]

What nic level did you get from TV?

 

[RIMP]

Prob need to up your nic to 18-24mg
RIMP

 

[ejoker]

suggest you try a higher nic level, maybe 24 or even 36. i started at 24, and have reduced that to 6 on a regular basis.
even though your first experience wasn't earth shattering, this experience is very personal, and everyone has to find what works for them. sometimes it takes time, trial and error. unfortunately, there is no 'one solution fits all'. i was one of the lucky ones who used my 510 and never smoked again.

i hope you stick with it long enough to find your solution.

 

[RIMP]

suggest you try a higher nic level, maybe 24 or even 36. i started at 24, and have reduced that to 6 on a regular basis.
even though your first experience wasn't earth shattering, this experience is very personal, and everyone has to find what works for them. sometimes it takes time, trial and error. unfortunately, there is no 'one solution fits all'. i was one of the lucky ones who used my 510 and never smoked again.

i hope you stick with it long enough to find your solution.

Are you stalking/copying me8-o
RIMP

 

[LowerJerZey]

What nic level did you get from TV?

48 and a doubler. I was going to mix up 4 12s and 1 zero, but now I'm definitley going to mix up a 24.

 

[Drozd]

also about the laxative like effects of the cig versus the vaping... PG may have the opposite effect as it tends to dry you out...remember to drink more water when first switching over

 

[WhitMar 75]

I agree with Timtam, RIMP and Ejoker... try a higher nic level and then see what you think.

I started with a 510 too but ordered 18mg and a flavor I knew I'd like... I think that makes all the difference in the world.

Cheers

 

[four2109]

I would try 16-18, then adjust your level from there. Just know that you might need to add some fiber to your diet for the desired effect!! Do you work the nightshift or what?? LOL!

 

[boochips]

Are you stalking/copying me8-o
RIMP

LMAO@RIMP.....I don't know if he is but it sure looks like I am...lol

 

[LowerJerZey]

also about the laxative like effects of the cig versus the vaping... PG may have the opposite effect as it tends to dry you out...remember to drink more water when first switching over

Yeah, I read this same comment in another thread. It may be true, but doesn't really justify how I could pretty much vape 11mg of nicotine in a very short span of time and not get the nicotine effect of just one drag of a cigarette. Just one. Parliament menthol light. Why would I get woozy from one drag if I just ingested 11mg?

 

[WhitMar 75]

I agree with Timtam, RIMP and Ejoker... try a higher nic level and then see what you think.

I started with a 510 too but ordered 18mg and a flavor I knew I'd like... I think that makes all the difference in the world.

Cheers

WhitMar 75

 

[LowerJerZey]

I would try 16-18, then adjust your level from there. Just know that you might need to add some fiber to your diet for the desired effect!! Do you work the nightshift or what?? LOL!

Sorry, I don't want this to go off topic like another person's post did. Members did nothing but suggest dieting tips to him/her. The point is nicotine absorbtion from the vapor. I really don't think it happens. I'm not a scientist in a lab. I'm a person that gets an extreme boost to have to go when I have a cig at the right time during the "movement". I get the boost with a cig, but not with an e-cig which puts into question of why didn't I.

 

[ZorbaTheGreek]

If I'm not mistaken, it's not the nicotine that has the laxative effect is it? I thought it was some of the other chemicals (Thought I heard it was the carbon monoxide) Same with the woozyness and head rush. My nic cravings are met, but I don't get the same feel I do with cigs. I'd still suggest trying some stronger nic 11 is pretty low to start IMO. I started with 26, went to 18 ok, but still can't vape 11 without chain smoking the poor little thing.

 

[CaptJay]

Nic is absorbed differently,(lungs vs mouth tissues) and you are now ONLY getting nic - not the rest of the chemicals you used to get in the cigarette. Tell me which one made you 'go'?
I don't know btw - but I'm pretty certain it wasn't nicotine alone because I had similar issues as you and now i don't - actually too much nic can have the opposite effect once you purge all the other crap out of your system
Its the 'other chemicals' (and there are 4 thousand to choose from) that had/have a lot more effect than nicotine on the brain and other body parts (lol). Some people find it almost impossible to give up cigs due to those other chemicals - a group of them act as anti-depressants, and for some, giving up is like looking into a pit.
The nic may well be the same, or it may be less, but remember those other chemicals didn't just 'do nothing' to you. GIve it some time, and don't worry about diet, I didnt change a thing.

 

[OaklandCA]

hey well that's interesting you zero in on the "gotta take a SH....T factor" I have been mostly off analogs 6-7 weeks but i started with nicotrol. Big pharma's inhaler product. 4 mg. delivered from 10mg available.

one has to suck on a 10mg. nicotrol 30 minutes to get 4 mgs. out of it. It has ZERO-no-none-- effect on gastro-intestinal system. But this product is guaranteed pharmaceutical grade real nicotine--they measured the subjects bloodstream nicotine levels in double blind FDA approved studies--"guaranteed you are sucking nicotine"

BTW I have always had that morning cig, .SH..T, shower and shave response to nicotine.

not so with nicotrol.

fact is you absorb the nicotine a lot slower with vaping. and it does take a bit of time to get up to a blood plasma level that kills the craving. but it does give you nicotine.

like the lozenge, the gum, the patch, it delivers it slower. there is no tar ball in the lung sac burst that shoots to your brain (and your gut) in 10 secs or less.

but rest assured this is a nicotine delivery system and it works.

It doesn't provide the same high as analogs, but after a month or so ii think you will find its MORE satisfying than tobacco.

I had a little situation the other day and bough a pack of newport 100s yes the initial hit was much stronger. but actually it didn't taste good, it irritated my throat and nose it smelled and tasted bad afterward and it's really clear its bad for you. e cigs might be bad for us too, but come on--propylene glycol and nicotine vs. the SH... the tobacco companies are selling.

but i bet there is some research out there on digestion which should be looked in to.

no SH....T!

 

[Bill77094]

Smoked about 1.5 packs a day, so I figured I would need to start out on 36mg. Got a head rush the first couple of vapes, but I got used to it. After about a week on 36mg, I started to feel "over-nic'd" and had to immediately lower my nic level down to 24, that is definitely the sweet spot for me. Mixing my own now and getting it even lower, down to 12 mg. I can have slow, pleasant vaping at 12mg, knowing that I have 24mg within reach if necessary. Hang in there!!

 

[leannebug]

If you want a laxative, try magnesium. You have to work up to it, but once you use it regularly (taken at night) It's a great natural alternative.

IMHO, if you only took one drag, then "boom" ... that sounds more like a conditioned response. Try some of the suggestions here. They are good ones.

I started with the highter nic levels and have found I am WAY too jittery.... Seriously doubting that Loranns flavor drops or VG is making me jittery

I am still a total noob, so yes, I do have the occasional analog. But I'm just taking it however it comes. Que sera, ya know.

 

[LowerJerZey]

If you want a laxative, try magnesium. You have to work up to it, but once you use it regularly (taken at night) It's a great natural alternative.

IMHO, if you only took one drag, then "boom" ... that sounds more like a conditioned response. Try some of the suggestions here. They are good ones.

I started with the highter nic levels and have found I am WAY too jittery.... Seriously doubting that Loranns flavor drops or VG is making me jittery

I am still a total noob, so yes, I do have the occasional analog. But I'm just taking it however it comes. Que sera, ya know.

I highly doubt the "boom" was from a conditional response. It definitely was a response to nicotine. But, before I continue to knock the product, I can't truly say that it isn't working. My body may have been ingesting the nicotine, but there is just no positive way to tell because I truly didn't feel the effect. It really could have just been that the first drag jump started the nicotine I already ingested. Tobacco companies have perfected the recipe for which chemicals, and there amounts, to add to tobacco to boost the nicotine's effect, which pretty much hits you hard and instantaneously. That is why they add all that crap. My buddy at work smokes some obscure native american cigarette which is suppose to be 100% all natural. I had one. It is extremely, extremely light. I'll try that tonight to see the effect.

 

[Sublimation]

The nicotine is definitely there. As others have suggested, maybe when you get a higher dose juice, you'll see it. Just like you said, don't forget about the tons of other chemicals that are in cigarettes either. They may be more responsible for your "rush" than the nicotine itself. I don't believe a lot of public testing has been done on the mixes in cigarettes to know exactly how they react with the nicotine or its absorption. Stick with it, you may be pleasantly surprised! I know it at least TASTES way better. Good luck.