Vaping got me to quit smoking, but now...................................

[thompsondd]

I can't seem to stop vaping.

We never smoked in our house. Didn't want to do it around the kiddos. Plus, going outside (to smoke) was always a nice (and needed) mental break from them sometimes.

I work from home a lot. I now vape at my desk (instead of hiking downstairs and out the door for a cig). I vape in the store. I vape practically everywhere I go. It seems my e-cig is always dangling from my mouth or at least within arms reach.

I haven't paid much attention to how much liquid I am going through lately. When the 'flavor de jour' starts to run low, I just put more in the tank.

I KNOW I am vaping FAR more than I ever smoked (generally - I was about a pack a day kinda guy) and I am wondering from a pure nicotine perspective if I'm not overdosing myself sometimes (OK - most of the time). I know I need to knock it off before going to bed but often don't, vaping right up until the lights go out. I definitely feel like I am probably getting MORE nicotine now from vaping than I ever did from smoking.

Hey, there is only so much time in the day that I could have smoked, but I can vape almost non-stop, right?

I have even dialed the nicotine back to lower levels (6 and/or 12 depending) on my most recent fluid purchases simply due to the AMOUNT that I am vaping daily.

But at least there are no cigarettes....................no tar, no carbon monoxide, no 3000 other chemicals. Just a lot of vaping.

Moderation has never been one of my finer points. Am I alone? Or could there be other newly created 'fiends' out there?

 

[Azmo]

It's normal when you start vaping. You are actually getting less nicotine. That is why you feel the need to vape so much. Reducing your nicotine level too soon will cause you to vape even more until your body gets used to the lower levels.

You will know that you are getting too much nicotine if you start getting headaches or feel nauseous.

I started at 24mg of nicotine and vaped non-stop. As soon as I started vaping less, I lowered my nic and started vaping non-stop again. I use how much I vape as an indicator of a good time to reduce the level. I am down to 12mg now after 4 months.

You are not alone.

 

[szot]

Most people will vape 3-5ML a day on average..so not sure what U consider to be too much

 

[dub151]

I can't seem to stop vaping.

We never smoked in our house. Didn't want to do it around the kiddos. Plus, going outside (to smoke) was always a nice (and needed) mental break from them sometimes.

I work from home a lot. I now vape at my desk (instead of hiking downstairs and out the door for a cig). I vape in the store. I vape practically everywhere I go. It seems my e-cig is always dangling from my mouth or at least within arms reach.

I haven't paid much attention to how much liquid I am going through lately. When the 'flavor de jour' starts to run low, I just put more in the tank.

I KNOW I am vaping FAR more than I ever smoked (generally - I was about a pack a day kinda guy) and I am wondering from a pure nicotine perspective if I'm not overdosing myself sometimes (OK - most of the time). I know I need to knock it off before going to bed but often don't, vaping right up until the lights go out. I definitely feel like I am probably getting MORE nicotine now from vaping than I ever did from smoking.

Hey, there is only so much time in the day that I could have smoked, but I can vape almost non-stop, right?

I have even dialed the nicotine back to lower levels (6 and/or 12 depending) on my most recent fluid purchases simply due to the AMOUNT that I am vaping daily.

But at least there are no cigarettes....................no tar, no carbon monoxide, no 3000 other chemicals. Just a lot of vaping.

Moderation has never been one of my finer points. Am I alone? Or could there be other newly created 'fiends' out there?

When I first started I vaped every minute of the day. I was intrigued, and curious whether it was going to work for me. Several months later I finally dialed in my Nicotine strength to the amount that I was vaping. Soon after that I began to vape at a more "normal" pace. I did lower my nic once again to match the clouds I was making from Genesis and RDA's. The main thing for us all to remember is that there is no easy way out of an addiction so It will always pay handsomely if we pay attention to what we are doing and continue to reduce the harm we inflict upon ourselves. Thank you Vapers, ECF, Reviewers and the other Forums for making this not only possible but interesting and fun as well.

 

[Davenkay]

I vape every waking minute of the day and there it is on the nightstand when I wake up in the middle of the night. I'm not worried about it because I know that vaping is healthier than cigarettes. My doctor is elated and actually allows vaping in his waiting room. But like they said, once you get dialed in you can go longer when you cannot vape.

 

[Kellycat]

Most people will vape 3-5ML a day on average..so not sure what U consider to be too much

Guess I'm an outlier, depending on the day I can kill a 15ml bottle between sunrise and sunset. Granted it's usually 6mg or nic-free, my 18mg bottles last for weeks cause I only use maybe half a milliliter in the mornings and sometimes late at night if I gotta be up for some reason.

OP: I'm also one of those fiends, at least at first, I think my PV was nearly glued to my hand. Nowadays, I'm consciously cutting back, or at least using 0mg liquids, cause I was having worse insomnia issues than usual from vaping 18mg at night when I didn't know better. I don't think there's anything at all wrong with vaping constantly, as long as you're not getting nauseous/headache-y/etc then you're probably fine on nicotine intake. I'd almost recommend going the opposite direction though, rather than lower your nic, raise it, if you were at 18mg, go to 24, maybe even 36, if it's just a question of craving nicotine then that should instantly kill chain-vaping in its tracks. Of course if you're doing it cause you enjoy it, well, lower nic is the way to go and probably better in the long run anyhow, as you'll have an easier time stepping down to zero if you decide you want to. Myself, I thought I'd do it eventually, nowadays I'm happy at 6mg because I can feel mental/physical benefits from having it in my system.

 

[JuRuKi]

i go through 4ml in two days. I try to vape only when im craving an analog

 

[SilentVapidity]

When I first stopped smoking cigarettes I vaped a lot. I didn't track ML or anything like that, but it seemed as though my PV was never out of reach. And I carried 3 - 4 setups with me at all times, just in case I tired of a flavor or had battery issues. And I didn't deny myself anything, because I was really focused on getting over the cravings for cigarettes. I vaped as much as I wanted until I felt satisfied.

But today, weeks later, is different. I think I've had a half dozen puffs. I'm paying more attention to what my body needs, and today it doesn't need nicotine. Tomorrow it might, and then I'll vape more. Maybe I missed it, but OP, how long have you been off of cigarettes?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I would not even worry about that amt at such low levels. I vape 12mg and when I feel satisifyed , I simply put them down. I think everyone goes thru the transisition period and most everybody vapes like a fiend at first.

Hope this helps.

 

[johnnyc1]

i'm about 1ml for 18 hrs, at 18mg nic, I was thinking the same as you thomsondd, it always seems to be with me, I am going to try to just use it like I did when I smoked.-- only use it when I really feel like I need it, and then put it down. still new to this myself ,and only chain vape because I don't want to start analogues again.

 

[JohnnyVsGirl]

A close friend's mom just started vaping 2 days ago. She had a Smoov and couldn't stick with it. We gave her an Ego that we had sitting around the house and a Kanger Pro Tank. She used to smoke 2 packs of Misty Blues a day. She's moved in with her son and needs to have her pacemaker rewired because something came loose.

Two days later I get an IM that she's chain vaping like a fiend but has only had 3 cigarettes her first day and 2 on her 2nd day. I told him the chain vaping is normal and if she can cut down from 40 cigarettes a day down to 3 then 2 and chain vape she's making a lot of progress and to just keep encouraging her. JohnnyV gave her a pep talk about how he quit last year, 14 months ago and how much better he feels. We're hoping this helps her along and she'll eventually quit.

I'm not going to judge her for chain vaping and we started her off around 12 mg because Misty Blues are a very light cigarette. She hasn't been headachy or anything else as far as we know so keep on chain vaping mama!!!!

 

[jingo]

i'm wandering about this too... i seem to get through 3-4ml a day @ 12mg....(1.2%)
that equates to 48mg max a day,,,, yet being a 20-30 a day smoker of .5mg analogs i used to Smoke only 10-15mg...

i'm only on day three... so i'm kind'ove glad for the high strength... as it helps abate the cravings...
i've not suffered any headaches or nausea...
(so does vapourising mean; less is absorbed - compared to analogs...?)

for instance; 1ml @12mg should equal 24 analogs @0.5mg....?
i'm guessing the thousands of chemicals help the nicotine get into your system....

i am going to try a lower dose sometime though.... as while my current 12mg sorts out my craving... there is a cut off point where i have to put it down for a bit,,,
but i need that hand-to mouth and vapour inhalation pretty much the whole time at the moment.
so i may try the 8mg,5mg and 0 mg all in the same flavour so i can assess what works for me.. when i want to chain..

^on that note, i have one flavour with good TH that i think i'll keep as my 'analog replacement' flavour and i'll keep it at higher strength than the rest of my juices - (for when i am craving an analog)
and then i'll have lower strength 'softer dessert-esk' flavours for when i need to satisfy the habit over the craving,

Jx

 

[mkbilbo]

I can't seem to stop vaping.

We never smoked in our house. Didn't want to do it around the kiddos. Plus, going outside (to smoke) was always a nice (and needed) mental break from them sometimes.

I work from home a lot. I now vape at my desk (instead of hiking downstairs and out the door for a cig). I vape in the store. I vape practically everywhere I go. It seems my e-cig is always dangling from my mouth or at least within arms reach.

I haven't paid much attention to how much liquid I am going through lately. When the 'flavor de jour' starts to run low, I just put more in the tank.

I KNOW I am vaping FAR more than I ever smoked (generally - I was about a pack a day kinda guy) and I am wondering from a pure nicotine perspective if I'm not overdosing myself sometimes (OK - most of the time). I know I need to knock it off before going to bed but often don't, vaping right up until the lights go out. I definitely feel like I am probably getting MORE nicotine now from vaping than I ever did from smoking.

I'm gonna stop you right there.

"Definitely feel" ain't a blood test.

My understanding of How This All Works is this. The smoker (dipper, chewer, hooka...er?, however you use tobacco... er) becomes accustomed to some level of nicotine circulating in their blood stream. I do not know what this level is nor do I know how much variation there is between individuals (I'm sure it's in the mix). I do understand that what we all did and do is seek to "maintain" some level "X" of nicotine circulating in our blood streams.

The thing I am convinced is going on is that when people switch "delivery systems", their habits have to shift around and adjust to this new thing. Also, we humans always notice "new" more than "old". You're more aware of how much you vape because it's new. Smoking becomes so habitual, you rarely "think" about it. I recall how sometimes I'd be caught "surprised" at a pack being empty. I didn't consciously pay attention nor count the number I was smoking. I just lit up (barely paying attention) when something inside me said, "Want one! Now!"

Near as anybody can tell, the deal is that vapor droplets are way, way bigger than smoke particles. So smoking, you draw the smoke into the lungs which gets the nicotine down to the little whatevers in the lungs that can absorb gasses like that oxygen stuff I hear so much about. The absorption is fast. I've read that nicotine from smoke can hit the brain within ten seconds. It's a really quick "delivery system".

Vapor being water droplets aren't small enough to sneak down into those little areas where the gas exchange goes on. Mostly, the absorption seems to be in the mouth and nasal passages when you vape. Which is a slower process.

What we all had become used to was being able to "inject" a quantity of nicotine into our systems very quickly. Like those smoke breaks where you're busy so you rush outside and just about inhale the whole cig in a single drag?

With vaping, you're trying to find your personal "pace" to maintain that nicotine level using a system in which the nic is absorbed more slowly. The first tactic most everybody uses--and tons of people rush into New Members worried about doing--is to vape more, more, more!!!

I'm convinced it's not you're getting "more nicotine", it's that you're not getting as much. And you're trying to find a new equilibrium. Which you will. In time.

"Too much nicotine" is something you'll notice. As Azmo says:

You will know that you are getting too much nicotine if you start getting headaches or feel nauseous.

Exactly so. Also it can show up like "caffeine jitters" and inability to fall asleep. Rapid pulse. You know, "overstimulated" kinds of stuff. Though headache, nausea, and dizziness seem to be the most mentioned things new folk comment on when they're using a nic level that's likely too high for them personally.

If you can post "I think I'm getting too much nicotine", chances are you're getting no such thing. You'd probably be posting, "I get headaches when I vape" and tons of posters would be saying, "Cut your nicotine level immediately".

I have even dialed the nicotine back to lower levels (6 and/or 12 depending) on my most recent fluid purchases simply due to the AMOUNT that I am vaping daily.

Me too. I have some I like vaping so much, I cut my nic level way down so I could vape my brains out. Why? Because I want to. That's why.

I am very strong in my belief that enjoying vaping is one of the big "keys" to not going back to smoking. So if I enjoy my wintergreen (I do, I do) vape so much I wanna vape it non-freaking-stop so cut the nic level to below 9, Ima gonna do it. And I'm going to enjoy every puff.

I started trying to quit smoking in my mid-20s. I'm coming up on 52 soon. I finally beat those blasted death sticks. If staying away from them means duct taping my damn PV to my head and rigging a tube so I can vape with every freaking breath, well call me Wintergreen of the Borg, your opinion is futile!

 

[dormouse]

I know what you mean. I knew I could never quit smoking so I switched to vaping. And I can vape more places and more often than I smoked.

What I DID do for myself was once I got comfortable I started cutting my nicotine level. I am now on the lowest nic level juices (typically 4mg) I can find. I also don't power-up my vape with higher voltages, low resistance, dual coils, etc.

True I have not lessened my habit but I have lessened my addiction. If I need to, I can go much longer without that gnawing feeling of needing a vape.

You could try 0mg and get rid of the nicotine addiction. But 0-nic juices don't have throat hit. You may want to compensate somewhat with heat or flavors you can feel a bit (mint/menthol, some liquor flavors etc).

 

[thompsondd]

i go through 4ml in two days. I try to vape only when im craving an analog

Good for you!!! I wish I had self control and restraint...................................but I don't. Never did. Never will.

 

[RaceGun59]

This is in the ECF Library. Way deeper then most of us care to go into the subject. The final result is vaping is better then smoking tobacco.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ette-vs-e-cigarette-nicotine-equivalency.html

 

[djsvapour]

I would not even worry about that amt at such low levels. I vape 12mg and when I feel satisifyed , I simply put them down. I think everyone goes thru the transisition period and most everybody vapes like a fiend at first.

Hope this helps.

Well said.

I vape small amounts of liquid at 18mg, mostly.

I guess if I went down to 12 or 6, I'd be vaping up to 3x as much.

I have been know to vape 30mg.....if I do, I don't even manage 1.5ml a day. It's all relative.

 

[Kat VV]

Well, this thread is making me a little less worried. I am also a vaping maniac since I quit smoking three weeks ago. I smoked for 39 years and can't seem to discipline my vape use, not that I disciplined my analog use very well. I am at 18mgs and hope to decrease in about a month. I'm too afraid to decrease yet.

 

[sze5003]

I'm the same way it's the nicotine. At work I'm in an office and we have no cubicles anymore. So I can't do it there and I've never vaped at work any way. But when I'm home I'm always vaping. I use 12mg nicotine. I used to use 18 when I started but it made me sick after a while.

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[Azmo]

i'm wandering about this too... i seem to get through 3-4ml a day @ 12mg....(1.2%)
that equates to 48mg max a day,,,, yet being a 20-30 a day smoker of .5mg analogs i used to Smoke only 10-15mg...

i'm only on day three... so i'm kind'ove glad for the high strength... as it helps abate the cravings...
i've not suffered any headaches or nausea...
(so does vapourising mean; less is absorbed - compared to analogs...?)

for instance; 1ml @12mg should equal 24 analogs @0.5mg....?
i'm guessing the thousands of chemicals help the nicotine get into your system....

i am going to try a lower dose sometime though.... as while my current 12mg sorts out my craving... there is a cut off point where i have to put it down for a bit,,,
but i need that hand-to mouth and vapour inhalation pretty much the whole time at the moment.
so i may try the 8mg,5mg and 0 mg all in the same flavour so i can assess what works for me.. when i want to chain..

^on that note, i have one flavour with good TH that i think i'll keep as my 'analog replacement' flavour and i'll keep it at higher strength than the rest of my juices - (for when i am craving an analog)
and then i'll have lower strength 'softer dessert-esk' flavours for when i need to satisfy the habit over the craving,

Jx

You would think this to be the case but it is not. First, with vaping, you are absorbing the nicotine mostly in your mouth. With smoking, the absorption is done in the lungs. Your mouth will absorb much less then your lungs will. So you won't get the exact equivalent that you posted when vaping 1ml.

Second, nicotine is the addictive substance. It is not what makes smoking bad for you. So other then a possible headache, nausea, or other overdose symptoms, it is not doing much harm.

Lowering the nicotine level is still good because it lessens your addiction but when starting out, it is better to chain vape high nic levels then it is to go back to cigarettes or use a combination.