Vaping if you have a pacemaker - is this dangerous???

[mo_khan_1980]

Hi All,

I recently purchased a NUCIG Advanced Pro2 for my father.
He currently smokes 40 a day so I thought this would be ideal to try and help him cut-down or better still quit smoking!

I'v just noticed that on the back of the package it says ' not to be used by persons with abnormal heart condition'....

My father has a pacemaker, can he still use the e-cig as im not sure what they mean when they state abnormal heart condition!

Any advice will be kindley appreciated.

 

[Thyestean]

While I'm certainly not qualified to give medical advice I can say that my father has been using an e-cig part time (still hasn't made the full switch) for about 3 months now without issue and he has a pacemaker.

 

[cantedview]

If regular cigarette makers were being totally honest, they'd likely say "not to be used by persons presently living".

I'm guessing that the advice is that people with medical conditions such as your father's should not be further taxing their pulmo/cardio systems by engaging in activities like smoking (or vaping). But if the old man's not likely to otherwise give up smoking anytime soon, then he's likely like the rest of us, and better off upgrading the habit at least.

If getting a pace maker did nothing to stop his smoking 2 packs a day, then he really needs your help... because the writting is on the wall and he's obviously ingored it so far. Good luck getting him off analogs. (And maybe keep him away from the charging equioment during the experiment). j/k of course

Best of luck! cV

 

[Bill77094]

You may want to at least have an e-cigarette available to your father, he may give it a shot and end up liking it enough to quit smoking, or at least cut back on the smoking. From an electrical interference standpoint, there is nothing in the e-cigarette or the charger that would interfere with a pacemaker. I smoked around30 Camel Lights per day. I stick with 24mg e-liquid so I can vape on and off throughout the day. 62 days without a single cigarette, much easier than I ever thought it would be. Get him a Joye 510 starter kit, a couple of different bottles of e-liquid, and a picture of the grand kids, that should do the trick.

 

[quasimod]

[...]
I'v just noticed that on the back of the package it says ' not to be used by persons with abnormal heart condition'....[...]

I'm not a doctor or a lawyer, but that is boiler-plate lawyer-speak that you will find on any product that contains a stimulant like nicotine or caffeine. Covering all the bases, in case of lawsuit. Check the fine print on the back of some "energy drinks" or pills. They basically say not to use their product if you are a living human.

[...] im not sure what they mean when they state abnormal heart condition! [...]

Covering all the bases, in case of lawsuit.

[...] Any advice will be kindley appreciated.

Here is a brief thread with owners of that unit discussing it. As I expected, there are mixed reviews.

Note that the person who started that thread with such a glowing review was only active for a brief period of time. Her last post to these forums was less than a month after that review, which was nearly a year ago. Maybe it didn't work out for her. A lot of people run into small problems and just give up, when the solution was only a forum-question away.

 

[Rosa]

I'm not a doctor either, but it sounds to me like they don't want a person with a heart condition to begin using nicotine. Now, if that person already uses nicotine in a more deadly delivery form (the lighted cigarette) I don't see how the e-cigarette would do anything but help.
(please don't sue me,please don't sue me,please don't sue me,please don't sue me,please don't sue me,please don't sue me, Just Kidding!)

 

[Rosa]

oh, but wait! I would imagine that if your father began vaping you would want to closely monitor and be careful of how much nicotine he's getting with his PV. You wouldn't want him to suddenly be getting a lot more nicotine than what he's used to, you'd want to start out low and let him increase gradually until the content is just high enough to satisfy him. I know that a strong nic content can get the blood pumping and with e-cigarettes it's hard to regulate how much nicotine we're actually absorbing.

 

[quasimod]

Also, the pre-filled cartridges (that is where the nicotine liquid goes) that are included with that unit are probably not very tasty. If your father balks at using the NUCIG because of the way it tastes, try to find out if he thinks it would work for him if it tasted better. There are some wonderful flavors available, like chocolate, coffee, tea, rum, candies, gum, fruit, cigar, pipe, etc. There are several highly-regarded eLiquid suppliers in the UK (faster, cheaper shipping), and there is a UK-specific sub-forum here you may want to read through (one of your neighbors might be an ECF member!). You can get very reasonably priced eLiquids and refill the cartridges yourself (or just direct-drip, see the link in my signature) for a fraction of what pre-filled replacement cartridges are likely to cost.

I have the feeling you will have to take charge of this if you want it to work, at least in the beginning. Many older people dislike fiddling around with little gadgets.

Don't be frightened off at the unexpected complexity of all this: There are plenty of people around here that are willing to help.

 

[scheherezade]

Not a doc, but nicotine constricts the vessels. Nicotine is never going to be recommended for anyone, especially those with a heart condition. But if your dad already smokes, he's already getting that and more. Definitely a CYA thing.

 

[clownfish159]

To answer your question, yes it is dangerous. Nicotine is a poison and is definitely not good for the heart. Vaping will result in more nicotine delivered if it is not closely controlled. Your father should stop smoking all together. Vaping will not stop him from taking in nicotine unless you give him no nic juice. Which will probably just cause him to go back to analogs. I would say just talk him into not smoking any more. Cut back on his smoking or do whatever he can do to drop his intake of nicotine. Vaping is a safer form of smoking, but if you are trying to get AWAY from nicotine, it is probably not the best option at all.

Disclaimer:
I am not a doctor and this is NOT medical advice. I am simply stating my opinions on the matter. You should consult with a physician and get the physicians opinion and advice! I take no responsibility for your choices!

 

[mo_khan_1980]

hey guys,

Firstly, thanks for all your advice, all is kindly appreciated.

Just to keep you guys posted, I got my father to try the NUCIG. After a days use, he started noticing an irregular heart beat (faster than normal). So as a precaution he has stopped using it. We took the NUCIG to his GP and asked for his opinion, the GP recommended he stop using the e-cig!

So......at the moment the NUCIG is gathering dust on the fireplace!!

I am still researching on the net...not going to give up until I get a solid answer!!

Cheers guys!!

I

 

[AaronCooper]

The increase in heartbeat will be from the nicotine level, not the device.

By some samplers ranging from 0 - 18mg Nic and see how low he can go on nicotine mg while still being satisfied.

Sorry i can't be of more help, i'm far from experienced in the medical profession.