Vaping inside

[JacobAyden]

Am I the only one who thinks vaping shouldn't be allowed in public places? Outside, I don't care. In your own home or car or whatever, I don't care. But if you're at the store, or your job, or the library, I don't think it's okay to be blowing out plumes of flavored vapor. It annoys me the same way someone wearing a lot of perfume annoys me. People could be allergic or just not like the smell or someone could be trying to quit smoking (and not want to vape either) and seeing people do such things could hinder their progress. Idk, I feel like the expectation that vaping should be allowed everywhere is ridiculous. People freaked out when smoking started being against the rules, too. I keep seeing all these posts about how vaping is now regulated wherever and...of course it is. You had to go outside when you wanted a cigarette, too. In my opinion, it's not about exposing or not exposing other people to chemicals and whatnot, it's just a matter of courtesy.
Full disclosure: I do vape at work, but I work overnight, alone, for eight an a half to eleven and a half hours. If it becomes a rule that we aren't allowed to vape inside, I won't.
Also, I do think there's a difference between, like, a PG based unflavored nic juice and a VG based heavily flavored one. You could vape the former without anyone even knowing, really. And I think that's an important distinction.
Sorry if this comes off as rude or preachy or anything, it's not intended to be that way.

 

[Cool-breeze]

I see both sides too it. I do not feel I'm "entitled" to it the way many do but I would love love love to have a couple of nice restaurants have a small 'vaping' section. I doubt it'll ever happen. I do think employers should evaluate it differently, especially ones that have two break rooms. Thats a whole different rant there. But in the grocery store? No I dont think it should be allowed walking down the isle. Not that I would ever let out a cloud when no one was looking. I guess the point is over all I agree with you.

 

[Dreaswi]

All I have to say on the subject is I agree

It only takes one person to start a revolution.

 

[Bob Chill]

The problem lies in respect for personal space. I stealth vape in indoor places sometimes. But when doing it I'm respectful and careful. If it's allowed indoors then people will be blowing giant plumes down the aisle or across the dining room. There's no avoiding that. Even if second hand vapor it completely benign, it can still be disrespectful of people's personal space.

Indoor vaping areas would be great though. We'll probably see that happen over time. But it's surely going to take some time and we have bigger things to worry about for the next couple years.

 

[Nautiboy1279]

Only some vapors really have a crazy smell to it like some old woman wearing tons of perfume (not that I have smelled any that came close to that hideous of a level). Anyway, I vape all day at work, and nobody here seems to mind. Funny, but I actually got the 3 other guys who sit closest to me vaping as well for a few years now. Got random clouds of vapor coming up out of cubicles. It's actually pretty funny. The day it gets banned from being allowed here, is the day productivity will drop lol. Each of us having to go outside like some others do here with their cigarettes will be extremely counter productive.

And YES, Drea, revolution is GOOD!

 

[stillnotsmoking]

It's pretty simple really--show some respect and you'll get some in return. This applies to all facets of life, not just vaping.

 

[Nautiboy1279]

Yea not like this young 18 year oldish girl on line somewhere, we were outside, and i was vaping, and she turns around with this valley girl type attitude and says "Uhh, could you please cut that out, I am very bothered by cigarette smoke! THANK YOoooU!"

It was a very light flavored methol with barely any smell or nicontine, and wasn't blowing "clouds". I could only laugh and tell her it was vapor.

 

[Singaw]

You had to go outside when you wanted a cigarette, too. In my opinion, it's not about exposing or not exposing other people to chemicals and whatnot, it's just a matter of courtesy.

Cigarettes were never banned anywhere out of courtesy, the laws would have never passed if it was about courtesy. Cigarettes were banned from public spaces because it was a public health issue. They are trying to ban vaping and sometimes successfully banning vaping in public spaces without any proof that there is a public health issue. It's not the respectable vaper that is going to get vaping banned, it will be the cloud chasing teen in the mall food court that will achieve that.

 

[JacobAyden]

Cigarettes were never banned anywhere out of courtesy, the laws would have never passed if it was about courtesy. Cigarettes were banned from public spaces because it was a public health issue. They are trying to ban vaping and sometimes successfully banning vaping in public spaces without any proof that there is a public health issue. It's not the respectable vaper that is going to get vaping banned, it will be the cloud chasing teen in the mall food court that will achieve that.

No, no I meant not vaping around people is a matter of courtesy. People often use the argument that "it's not as bad as cigarettes" as though that's a reason to be allowed to vape wherever they want. I was merely circumventing that by saying, in my opinion, that it's really a matter of courtesy.

 

[JacobAyden]

Also, this just occurred to me--my cousin has a very serious peanut allergy. When he was younger, we weren't even allowed to make peanut butter cookies because his allergies could be set off by them. So I wonder if someone with a food allergy could be in danger from vapor? I'm not sure how flavorings and whatnot work, I'm not a doctor or a chemist or something, but I definitely think it's something to be considerate of.

 

[dakotabear]

It should be left up to the individual businesses as to how they want to handle it. Let the consumer driver their decision.

I am firmly against any broad public law infringing on private business' rights.

 

[Singaw]

No, no I meant not vaping around people is a matter of courtesy. People often use the argument that "it's not as bad as cigarettes" as though that's a reason to be allowed to vape wherever they want. I was merely circumventing that by saying, in my opinion, that it's really a matter of courtesy.

I agree with you to a point. Vaping in general wherever I want only becomes a problem and discourteous if somebody notifies me that for one reason or another they have a problem with it. Now if their reasons for me not to vape around them are based on lies and misinformation I owe it to that person to educate them on the facts. Upon knowing the facts and if there is no harm coming to them from me vaping then it would be discourteous for the person to continue asking me to not vape around them.

 

[Buggainok]

On a personal basis, I don't have a dog in this fight. I became so accustomed to not smoking in public places in the last few years. I follow the same guidelines about vaping. If smoking is allowed, I vape. If it's not, I don't.

I live in Oklahoma, which has pretty strict anti-smoking, and now, anti-vaping regulations. There are still a few restaurants/bars where smoking is permitted in designated areas. Our governor recently signed a law banning vaping on state property. Smoking was already banned, so I don't find it much of a hardship.

I vape as much as I want at home and in my car. Out in public, not so much.

 

[bman1977]

100% agree. If you can't control yourself enough to wait to vape then there's an issue with you. At home I vape like a beast, when i'm out I keep it in check and only when it's convenient and I don't have to hide it.

 

[bman1977]

On a personal basis, I don't have a dog in this fight. I became so accustomed to not smoking in public places in the last few years. I follow the same guidelines about vaping. If smoking is allowed, I vape. If it's not, I don't.

I live in Oklahoma, which has pretty strict anti-smoking, and now, anti-vaping regulations. There are still a few restaurants/bars where smoking is permitted in designated areas. Our governor recently signed a law banning vaping on state property. Smoking was already banned, so I don't find it much of a hardship.

You said what I was trying to say in much better words.

 

[Singaw]

I would like to add that my feelings about cloud chasing in public places are completely different than vaping which I consider to be taking a quick puff on my PV. When vaping in public I am discreet without actually trying to hide what I am doing.

 

[Singaw]

On a personal basis, I don't have a dog in this fight. I became so accustomed to not smoking in public places in the last few years. I follow the same guidelines about vaping. If smoking is allowed, I vape. If it's not, I don't.

I live in Oklahoma, which has pretty strict anti-smoking, and now, anti-vaping regulations. There are still a few restaurants/bars where smoking is permitted in designated areas. Our governor recently signed a law banning vaping on state property. Smoking was already banned, so I don't find it much of a hardship.

I vape as much as I want at home and in my car. Out in public, not so much.

I commend you on this and happy it works for you but vaping is not smoking and I see no reason to follow smoking laws when I vape. According to studies with any merit I am partaking in a relatively benign activity and it is only lies and misinformation that are causing people to equate it to smoking. Now if I saw a no vaping sign I may think differently but as of yet I have not seen one so I cannot judge my reaction.

 

[Seuss]

i Can see both side of the story. i asked the guys i work with if they minded me vaping in the office. One was ok with, it the other was not. So i go outside to vape. Its all about respect for our fellow humans!

 

[The Ministry]

I took the route of vaping where smoking is allowed.

I had an interesting conversation with a work colleague who suffered a massive heart attack and literally -had- to quit smoking. He wants to smoke, he misses smoking, he is jealous of people who smoke (even given the heart attack)

He saw me vaping in the smoking area a few months back, after I'd announced I'd quit. He assumed I'd taken up smoking again as at that point I was on better gear, more vapor, etc. He saw me a while later and spotted the E-Cig on my desk. He launched into a "those should be banned in bars them things!".

After discussing it, he'd seen someone vaping in a bar and took exception to it as he mistook it for smoking. The vapor I was producing in the smoking area as he walked past passed for smoking to him (he didn't realize I was vaping). He sees them similarly to smoking, and hates them (as he hates smokers, as he can't smoke).

I tried to get him on board but he wasn't having it.

Some people will take offence to us vaping in areas where smoking is generally banned, it's just one of them things. 90% may not have a problem, there's always a few who will.

I'm a cloud monster at home, but whilst around non smokers outside my personal residence, I tone it down. I vape like a champ in my car with my partner who is a smoker, when the child is in the car it's off limits. When I'm giving someone a lift, it's off limits, etc.

I just see it as "they may be fine with it, they may not" so decide to exercise caution. That's my choice, I certainly don't expect everyone shares that opinion but it's served me well so far.

 

[Sue1971]

I do not vape in stores or restaurants, Just because when I "smoked" it wasn't allowed, I can wait till I get outside just like I did when I smoked.

I just hope the casino's I visit never ban cigs or vape. I don't mind sitting next to someone who is smoking, I'm not one of those ex smokers who tell people to put out their butts. And when I did smoke and at a slotmachine I always made it a point to put my pack and lighter on the machine to let people know that a smoker was very near and I do the same with my PV