Vaping vs Analogs in regards to MAOI's, addiction, and mental health

[Johntodd]

https://www.mothersmilkwta.com/

Also makes WTA. Much cheaper, but less refined. Goes good with tobacco flavors. Good WTA effect, it's all I use for WTA.

 

[bluecat]

The harm caused by smoking is essentially entirely because of combustion. The idea that tobacco companies are adding chemicals that would make cigarettes more harmful is a bit off the wall. The thinking must be that cigarettes are not harmful enough so lets add some stuff to increase the risk. A pretty crazy idea. Besides that, organic and additive free cigarettes are every bit as harmful as any other cigarette.

Not necessarily disagreeing. tobacco company do add ammonia to cigarettes to help with the delivery into our system. It is not necessarily that they add them to make them more harmful. Something tells me that smoking tobacco on its own, without the additives like ammonia would make them not as harmful. At least I can't believe smoking ammonia is not harmful.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Not necessarily disagreeing. Tobacco company do add ammonia to cigarettes to help with the delivery into our system. It is not necessarily that they add them to make them more harmful. Something tells me that smoking tobacco on its own, without the additives like ammonia would make them not as harmful. At least I can't believe smoking ammonia is not harmful.

Speaking about addiction: I testify that smoking tobacco without additives is highly addictive. Tested on myself, got addicted on tobacco without additives. Which one is more harmful? Who knows. Tobacco itself has so much in its composition, its burning produces even more... By the way, main additive to tobacco is sugar, but it is one of the main ingredients of tobacco anyway.

 

[Alien Traveler]

MAOIs are a natural ingredient in tobacco, but only in trace amounts.

The tobacco companies add extra MAOIs ......

This information all came out in the 90's when the tobacco Executives were testifying before Congress.

Yes. It had happened in Hollywood. It was entertaining movie.

 

[skoony]

MAOIs are a natural ingredient in tobacco, but only in trace amounts.

The tobacco companies add extra MAOIs (along with ammonia and sugar) to make the nic hit harder, etc

As hard as it is to believe the tobacco company's never deliberately added anything to tobacco to enhance nicotine
or any thing else. In order to guarantee that the first Marlboro was the same in every respect to the one
millionth Marlboro they had to process the tobacco to guarantee consistency in flavor,nicotine per puff,
tar content when burned,etc..,etc.., to meet strict government standards.

This information all came out in the 90's when the tobacco Executives were testifying before Congress.

Your right. More precisely when the representative asked the execs if they ever added nicotine to tobacco
to make it more addictive. They all answered no because they knew they added nicotine to some
tobacco to meet the governments own standards. The representative then started yelling at them.
I can't remember the exact quote it went something like,"liars,i am holding in my hand documents
from your own company's saying you added nicotine to your products." Thus begins one of the bigger myths
concerning BT. The documents the representative had were submitted by the tobacco company's to the government
proving how they could guarantee precise nicotine content in their products across all brands. They were required
to submit those documents. the execs were dumbfounded of course. They had been set up. The only thing
people remember is "They Lied!".
Please remember I am not sticking up for BT. I feel its necessary to to convey accurately what happened
so as to put into context an understanding that nothing has changed. If one realizes the total dehumanization
and demonizing of BT they pulled off you can begin to understand why they are essentially using to same tactics
on us. They work.

Regards
Mike

 

[bluecat]

Speaking about addiction: I testify that smoking tobacco without additives is highly addictive. Tested on myself, got addicted on tobacco without additives. Which one is more harmful? Who knows. Tobacco itself has so much in its composition, its burning produces even more... By the way, main additive to tobacco is sugar, but it is one of the main ingredients of tobacco anyway.

May I ask what form of tobacco and in what application that there was no additives?

 

[coolerat]

May I ask what form of tobacco and in what application that there was no additives?

My smokes claimed to be 100% pure tobacco.

You've seen the stalk grinder growing up there. Nasty stuff but 100% tobacco.

Kinda like tobacco ensilage.

 

[Alien Traveler]

May I ask what form of tobacco and in what application that there was no additives?

Alien tobacco. Also non-filtered cigarettes made from cuttings of cigar tobacco.
EDIT: forgot about nicotiana rustica, do not know it has some other name in English.

 

[bluecat]

Alien tobacco. Also non-filtered cigarettes made from cuttings of cigar tobacco.
EDIT: forgot about nicotiana rustica, do not know it has some other name in English.

Hmmmm.

Wouldn't non filtered cigarette made from cigar tobacco still be a cigar?

They need to start deriving nicotine from mapacho. What is it like 10% more nicotine than a normal tobacco plant? That'll put you in lala land.
I believe it also contain more MAOIs.

Yes, cool. There are smokes that claim to be 100% organic.

I still can't believe that the addition of ammonia doesn't make it more harmful to smoke than just plain tobacco taken from the plant dried ground up, put in a corn cob pipe and smoked.