Vapor and Drinking alcohol

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Jayvaps

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I have personally had two drags off of analogs in the over 2 months since I have quit. Mostly out of curiosity. And I dont consider those two drags failing.

Both times they tasted like utter crap and I had to rinse my mouth out right afterwards.

Is trying or even having a smoke every now and then failing if you go right back to vaping? When most of us smoked a pack, 2 packs, heck I used to be up to 3 packs a day if I was out drinking? I dont think so.

It just affirms how well vaping is working for me.

That said, I am a drinker. I like to go out and drink. And most of the bars I hang out in down here are smoking bars, so I made a point not to hide from drinking and meet it head on. You have to face it at some point, so make sure your vaping gear is working in good order and have a good backup, go out to a bar with a friend or relative and drink and vape. If it gets too hard....leave, but try to stick it out for your own knowledge that you can face the situation.
 

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Vaping while drinking has one huge benefit over smoking. You can vape all the time without waking up wishing you could detach your throat and run it through the washer.

This is true. I got lucky and was able to drop analogs as soon as I took my first vape. Ego-T with a cheap clearo. Have moved on to mech mods and RBA's since then.

I drink Vodka regularly and I do notice that I vape more during this time. Not a big deal if you can have it with you. I live in NC where it is illegal to smoke in indoors in public places, like bars and shops. So either way I cannot have a smoke or vape so I am sure this helps as well.

Just vape your gear while you drink.. They will quickly associate with each other just like smoking did. You still have the muscle memory association with putting something to you mouth and inhaling. You are still getting the physical addiction gratification with the nicotine intake. Should be quick for your brain to switch to vaping while drinking.

You can do it!
 

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Just as a warning to the recommendations to upping the nic. Not sure how other people are when they drink, but I super ultra extreme... any other synonym... CHAIN smoked and now vaped when I drink. I actually had to reduce my nic when I drink or I get headaches. With that said, I was generally a 1 pad guy. When I drink I was a 2 pad. If you chain smoked while drinking, expect to do the same vaping.

My other recommendation is to bring a couple flavors if you have multiple tanks and swap them out. It took me a couple tries before I found the flavors I liked when drinking.
 

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I have personally had two drags off of analogs in the over 2 months since I have quit. Mostly out of curiosity. And I dont consider those two drags failing.

Both times they tasted like utter crap and I had to rinse my mouth out right afterwards.

Is trying or even having a smoke every now and then failing if you go right back to vaping? When most of us smoked a pack, 2 packs, heck I used to be up to 3 packs a day if I was out drinking? I dont think so.

It just affirms how well vaping is working for me.

That said, I am a drinker. I like to go out and drink. And most of the bars I hang out in down here are smoking bars, so I made a point not to hide from drinking and meet it head on. You have to face it at some point, so make sure your vaping gear is working in good order and have a good backup, go out to a bar with a friend or relative and drink and vape. If it gets too hard....leave, but try to stick it out for your own knowledge that you can face the situation.

Part I bolded is one I'm most compelled to respond to, though I'll undoubtedly touch on all of this.

Smoking after giving up smoking does not equal failure. IMO, that ought to be a very strong no for all vapers who at any point, in their lives, felt a draw to keep on smoking. The psychology at work to equal a relapse to failing is interesting, even understandable, but IMO, is misguided. While it is characteristically a human weakness of willpower to relapse, it is, at most, a blip on the radar and at least, a way for a nicotine user to keep things in check.

In the scheme of things, vaping for sure, and even smoking are really really tame compared to most substances humanity engages in. This thread deals with alcohol which in my understanding simply can't even be put on par with nicotine/smoking. Yet, for very odd reasons, nicotine is magically deemed far more socially unacceptable than alcohol. Then there are a whole bunch of substances which ECF won't allow us to talk about but are easily far worse, take a more drastic toll on the human body/mind. Then there are legal substances which are arguably worse, such as sugar. IMO, isolating smoking/nicotine as 'the big bad guy in the room' while denying the umpteen hundred other things on this planet that vast majority of humans engage in, plays into the misguided thinking that permeates nicotine use/abuse.

But users, especially vapers, I think get this first part. I think it is important to keep things in check with regards to any addiction. What that means, exactly, for me isn't perhaps what it will mean for another user, but in general, I think it is about the same. At one point there was desire, and not obsessive compelling nature, to enjoy the item. Your mind knows this very well, and is feeding on that more than the compelling nature. For in that desire leads to an opportunity to judge one's own self. "What am I in relation to this?" And if the answer is, "I'm a failure" for doing this, the part of mind that relishes in self sabotage is, how you say, pleased.

Yet, for a number of vapers/ex-smokers, the keeping things in check works out as: a) wondering what is it that I'm missing from not smoking. Then b) have a smoke, and voila, holy crap do they taste nasty (now), which leads to c) stronger conviction to not do that again. IMO, that's a pretty good way to keep things in check instead of having a festering thought that keeps wondering and nudging you to consider, 'no really what are you missing?'

As one who has quit smoking for a long, long time, and is now happy to be a moderate smoker, I get that smoking tastes nasty when you haven't done it for a little while. IMO, it always was an acquired taste, though I realize there are some amongst us who liked it from the very first moment they tried it. But the reality is, you have to want to smoke to keep smoking, and not want to smoke, to maintain quitting. Vaping provides a great alternative to those who do want to keep smoking, which is how I see things. While I get that vaping provides a wonderful path to those who don't want to keep smoking. And is a significant reason why vaping is so darned popular - as it is one of the best, if not the best, aids in cessation from smoking. As long as vaping and smoking are around, I think the cessation thing will always be with us.

I just continue to wish that some vapers, who are now ex-smokers, didn't go all ANTZ in their quitting by vilifying smoking and equate usage of it to terms like failure, dangerous, worrisome, etc. I'll grant those types that it is stinky, but after that I draw a line. Moderate smoking ain't like abusive smoking. In fact, it takes that whole weakness thing, and turns it upside down.
 

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Yet, for a number of vapers/ex-smokers, the keeping things in check works out as: a) wondering what is it that I'm missing from not smoking. Then b) have a smoke, and voila, holy crap do they taste nasty (now), which leads to c) stronger conviction to not do that again. IMO, that's a pretty good way to keep things in check instead of having a festering thought that keeps wondering and nudging you to consider, 'no really what are you missing?'
This is a subject that has always interested me, and in fact I started this poll awhile back...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/99883-should-you-try-cigarette-now-you-dont-smoke.html

I personally think that people are split into three camps...
--Those that might be pulled back into smoking if they ever tried a cigarette
--Those that will be pushed further away from smoking if they ever tried a cigarette
--Those that can do both without any fear

I am in the last group, as I can have a cigarette anytime I want now without any fear whatsoever.
In fact, I probably have one every month or two, just for fun.


My experience on this forum is that the majority are in the second group, whether they know it or not.
And a good percentage of those might even find themselves in the last group if they choose to be.

But I have also seen quite a few people who fell into the first group as well.

For that reason, I have a hard time suggesting that someone try it.
However, I do believe that trying a cigarette could help more people than it would hurt.


So I guess to me this is not so much a "Do Not Try This At Home" kind of thing...
More like a "Try This At Your Own Risk" kind of thing.
:)
 
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Yes, I fall for this most every time until I bought 24mg juice for when I drink. That is the key. Get something double your strength and you'll be good to go. Plus you'll probably start a LOT of conversations when you go outside and join the smokers. They'll be smoking nasty analogs while you enjoy nice clean flavors. They'll go back in smelling like crap, you'll go back in smelling just fine :)

You got this :)

This is sound advice, always worked for me when confronted with the same situation.
 

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When I drink I usually drink beer. I like to vape bold flavorful tobacco flavors when I drink. Keeps me from wanting an analog. I was also a chain smoker while drinking. When I was younger and used to go out to bars (back when you could smoke in them) I would always make sure I had a fresh pack before going out because I would go through a pack in just one evening if I was out drinking.
 

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I don't see it as a risk. For the vast majority of people I've seen telling their stories, they naturally fell away from cigarettes as they vaped. Sure, there is the occasional story of someone just going back to analogs, but that appears to be more of a one-off and often involves a person who isn't satisfied with their vaping experience in the first place.

It isn't like alcoholism where one drink is never enough. A single cigarette (even less, in most cases) can be more than enough, and - while I don't usually say "go ahead and smoke" - I DO say that if you DO smoke, don't sweat it and just pick up the vaporizer without beating yourself up about the cigarette. A single cigarette doesn't equal complete failure in one's quest to be tobacco free. It's a lifetime change and it's okay to slip.

NOTE: If one isn't vaping and does this, however, it doesn't work in the same manner. I think it's important to point that out.

Allowing oneself to feel like a failure is more likely to make one give up completely and just go back to the cigarettes than looking at it realistically, forgiving oneself, and just moving forward again.

Being aware of the psychology makes all the difference.
 
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So today I was informed by DH we are going to Vegas for 25th Wedding Anniversary. Now this will be a big chore for me more then the Christmas Party. Sitting in front of slot having a drink and not smoking a analog. We got married on Valentines Day. So here is a question, anyone know any good e-cig shops out in Vegas. And now I have to check the TSA web site to see how much e-juice I can bring. LOL or bring back if its cheaper out there. These situations I seem to be put in. LOL All I know Is I am going to Vegas Baby!!!
 

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So I have a question. I have not drank any alcohol except one beer yesterday since vaping. Now my son was all gun hoe on vaping but he turned 21 yesterday and guess what he bought a pack of analogs when he went to the bar. I don't want this to happen to me. I have a Christmas Party coming up the first week of December for my work. I have always smoked more analogs while drinking then when I am not. What did you people do to make sure you don't go back to the analogs?

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Mushroomie

There ain't nothing more satisfying than a vape and a whiskey....I used to smoke continuously when I drank..could never get enough...now I vape continuously...and it is so much more satisfying...try it
 

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So today I was informed by DH we are going to Vegas for 25th Wedding Anniversary. Now this will be a big chore for me more then the Christmas Party. Sitting in front of slot having a drink and not smoking a analog. We got married on Valentines Day. So here is a question, anyone know any good e-cig shops out in Vegas. And now I have to check the TSA web site to see how much e-juice I can bring. LOL or bring back if its cheaper out there. These situations I seem to be put in. LOL All I know Is I am going to Vegas Baby!!!
I have read that there are a lot of good vape shops in Las Vegas, and also quite a few not-so-good ones.
You might want to start a new thread with a targeted subject line to get more responses.
 

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There ain't nothing more satisfying than a vape and a whiskey....I used to smoke continuously when I drank..could never get enough...now I vape continuously...and it is so much more satisfying...try it

I am not a whisky drinker at all. I used to drink a lot when I was young but not that type of alcohol. My hubby though is. I am good with a beer and sipping of a bottle of Doc Menthomints schnapps. I just don't drink a lot any more period. Mostly around the holidays. When my son turned 21 on Monday I had 1 beer and the bar said we could vape got some dirty looks from the analog people but I just let it be. I love how this thread that I started went to what to do to get through drinking then what you drank LOL! You guys are all Awesome!
 

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I have read that there are a lot of good vape shops in Las Vegas, and also quite a few not-so-good ones.
You might want to start a new thread with a targeted subject line to get more responses.

I think I will do that! I thought about it but this thread has gone so many places I kind of want to keep it going! LOL
 

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Be proud of vaping instead of smoking. Show it off don't hide it, talk to your friends about it when they ask and you might even get them to ditch the cigs too. They will be healthier and happier and you will have another vaping buddy. I understand everyone is different and the amount of time you have been vaping makes a difference for sure, but I can honestly say I never want another cig again. When I'm hanging out with smokers or go to a bar I hate breathing it and I hate smelling like a nasty ashtray when I leave. When I get home I take off clothes and take a shower immediately. Others have said it, but I would say it's a good idea to have a stronger nic juice to help you control the urge while drinking. Find yourself a nice tobacco flavor you enjoy and vape away!! Good luck to you!
 
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