Vapor Flask V3 DNA40 Clone thread
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Yea they suppress the Temperature Protection message on these but you do see your wattage changing, right?
Working with NI200 is an adjustment, but it will extend your coil life considerably. You will be tearing them out to try different thing long before you actually have to change them.
Already on that! Will be picking up the Lemo drop after payday. Either way I'd like a dripper as well.
I've had the temp protection message on mine a couple of times so it is there.
It must vary with batch then because I absolutely don't have it on mine (even when set to 200° and 40W into dry coil), and Croak said his didn't have it either.
Yes I'm seeing the wattage adjust but not seeing ANY messages. Like bloke said, even with a dry coil.
At first it worried me, but on reflection it is better - we can see the temp and wattages at all times, whereas with the genuine dna 40 you can't see the actual temp/wattage when it's at limit because the Temp Protection message blocks it out. At least that's how it seems to me from what I've seen of the genuine DNA 40 from videos (still not ever used one personally.)
(Not that that's supremely interesting, but better than just a flashing message in my view.)
(Not that that's supremely interesting, but better than just a flashing message in my view.)
I had such high hopes for the lemo 2 with how much people rave over it. It sucks though, complete waste of money trying that one. I don't know how people recommend it.
O rly? People in this thread are amongst those raving about it!
Coincidentally I am right now coiling and wicking it for the very first time - having received it nearly a week ago, but being deluged in vape mail in the last week (hard life etc), it's taken me until now to actually try it out. So I will have to see which camp I am in!
Why do you hate it so much? Did you use (and like?) the Lemo 1? If so, how does it compare to the first one, in your view? Or did you hate the first one as well?
O rly? People in this thread are amongst those raving about it!
Coincidentally I am right now coiling and wicking it for the very first time - having received it nearly a week ago, but being deluged in vape mail in the last week (hard life etc), it's taken me until now to actually try it out. So I will have to see which camp I am in!
Why do you hate it so much? Did you use (and like?) the Lemo 1? If so, how does it compare to the first one, in your view? Or did you hate the first one as well?
I never tried the first one. The lemo 2 was way too restrictive airflow for the deceiving large chimney. I was expecting "massive airflow" I kept reading about, that was not the case. It was a tight restrictive lung hit. The chimney and evaporation are so large for no reason at all, its like the design team had no idea why they were doing what they did.
Another issue I had with it was they shrank the tank to 22mm, but kept the same evaporation chamber size, so now the area between the ID of the glass tube and evaporation chamber is really narrow. High VG has a difficult time flowing between there.
Just not what I wanted out of a single coil RTA. Although to be fair I don't think what I want exists.
The lemo 2 could have been great, but they missed the mark for me. Shrink the evaporation chamber / deck (but still large enough for 3.5ID coils), increase the airflow from under the center post, make the chimney the appropriate size for the airflow through the center post, get rid of the stupid two piece base, and they would have a winner.
I think its better with no TP message. It only gives the impression that something is wrong when it actually isnt and the device is just doing what it is supposed to!
Mine Widea shows the "temperature protection" message real fast and while vaping the message disappears when temp is below the limit then it shoes the actual watts.
So below the limit it shows provided watts and at the limit it shows "temperature protection" (not blinking).
So below the limit it shows provided watts and at the limit it shows "temperature protection" (not blinking).
You made me pull out mine & I'm ok with the airflow. Has better airfow than subtank mini. More than I need wide open. Running stock kanthal coil right now. Flavor doesn't seem as dense but it is my first tank. I'm pleased with it.
What do you think Bloke?
Glad you like it. It did have slightly better airflow vs my modified STmini, but it wasn't enough to make me keep it. I was looking for a good bit more airflow, and unfortunately the lemo 2 just didn't have it.
The large pointless chimney mutes the flavor a bit I think. I dunno just my opinions.
Could you have drilled out the center post a bit for better flow?
It's basically the same chamber and chimney as the Lemo 1, so most of that muted flavor is from a larger airflow hole in the build deck. Tighten the airflow up to match the original, it has pretty much the same flavor. But then again, I thought the original Lemo was over-rated, though the Drop was a flavor improvement.
I quite like it! I'm vaping on it now, with a 0.14 Ni200 28G (hard finish) build. I'm finding around 380-400F seems best, but haven't completely nailed that down yet.
In terms of performance, seems pretty similar to the Lemo 1. As Croak says, the chimney is identical - and literally interchangeable, which is great. I like it when manufacturers don't needlessly change something and so allow greater convenience.
The airflow is much increased from the One, and for me it's too much at fully open. Yes, that seemed to wash out flavour. About half way seems good for me, which is perhaps a shade more than the One but not much.
The juice port is much improved - needing to take a screw out in the One is never good, and it was doubly annoying because to access it you had to unscrew the bottom section. Which meant that when trying to remove it from the 510 it would be 50/50 whether the device unscrewed, or the bottom cap. You can't win in that scenario - either you screw the bottom on really tight so that it doesn't unscrew on the 510, but then it becomes a huge pain to unscrew it when you do need to fill. Or you have it not too tight, and then it unscrews trying to take it off a 510.
The bottom section of the Two (containing the AFC) does still unscrew, but because there's no need to get in there 99% of the time, it can be screwed down tight enough that it doesn't cause problems on the 510.
Air flow controls: it's vastly better if you need to adjust the airflow; the One was a daft design of a washer around the base of the 510 pin. But I don't really need to. I had the One fully open always, and I imagine I'll always want the Two always half open. So in that sense I'm not bothered by the easier adjustment, and if anything it moves a bit too easily for my liking - I expect I am often going to find myself re-adjusting it. But then that's common to many tanks.
I like the new juice port. Big enough for various filling tips (though not drippers, according to Busardo - fortunately I almost never use those bottles.) That said, I got some leaking the first time I filled it, which was a shame. I didn't fill it 100%, I left a little space in the hope that'd discourage leaking, but some still came out of the AFC (which was closed, as instructed.) And I did find the juice port quite stiff to open/close, but I expect that'll loosen up and anyway it's better that than too loose!
Deck: well it's identical to the One, which is good - I like the big open single coil deck. But I continue to have problems with thin wire: through the holes, it breaks on tightening; under the screws, it gets pushed out by the screw head, even with Ni200 28 gauge. That may well just be me sucking, and will get a lot easier when I finally get around to twisting Ni200.
Oh, and something I like in both Lemo 1 and Lemo 2 - they come apart into a reasonable number of pieces; not too many, not too few. I like dismantling as much as possible for cleaning in the Ultrasonic. For the Two, there's the top cap, tank, 2 o rings, top chimney, base chimney, deck, bottom section, and from the deck/bottom you can remove the entire positive path - a centre screw which holds the deck down to the 510, with the positive deck laying on a PEEK insulator and with another insulator around the connecting pin. Not quite Kayfun amounts of dismantlement (I gather, not yet owning one), but then that's probably also good!
So yeah, I like it
I still haven't tried its peer in my recent vape purchases: The Goliath. Because that has accessible build with full tank, I am hoping I will love it; then again, I am expecting to dislike the cramped deck. So we shall see.
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