Vapping in restaurants

[vsummer1]

Yea I'm going to stealth vaping at restaurants. Oh an im using a ipro with the smok titan tank an twin coil stem

I use a big old eGo with a vivi, so there is no hiding it. I just do my thing, hold the vapor in a bit longer than normal and then blow slowly out my nose. Barely any visible at all, and you would have to be looking at me to see it. Not like a cloud over my head or anything. And so far I only have had only one woman give me a dirty look, and I just looked her straight in the eyes and vaped. No smoke came out, so what is she going to complain ABOUT? That I am holding something strange and putting it in my mouth? I just thought, "Good luck judgmental lady, I think you are too uptight as you are the same one that turned down the free wine taste at Olive Garden".

 

[PureEvil]

I kinda gotta disagree with most of you here. Iam new to vaping and this forum, but I think trying to hide it (stealth) or not doing it in places where you know it will cause a "problem" is a bad idea.

Its a new thing so people will assume its real smoke, we need to use them all the time and then people will learn what they are and become use to it. The more we treat it like were doing something wrong, the more people will start to ban it or complain. The best option here is to.. for lack of a better term cause a problem, if enough people do this it will start to become normal.

Guess its just my thought that if we treat it like its a crime, they will treat it that way too.

 

[davenajen]

I use a big old eGo with a vivi, so there is no hiding it. I just do my thing, hold the vapor in a bit longer than normal and then blow slowly out my nose. Barely any visible at all, and you would have to be looking at me to see it. Not like a cloud over my head or anything. And so far I only have had only one woman give me a dirty look, and I just looked her straight in the eyes and vaped. No smoke came out, so what is she going to complain ABOUT? That I am holding something strange and putting it in my mouth? I just thought, "Good luck judgmental lady, I think you are too uptight as you are the same one that turned down the free wine taste at Olive Garden".

LOL wish I could of saw her face
ya people sometimes say they think my head is on fire had two people say that in jc penny an a gas station haha

 

[vsummer1]

I kinda gotta disagree with most of you here. Iam new to vaping and this forum, but I think trying to hide it (stealth) or not doing it in places where you know it will cause a "problem" is a bad idea.

Its a new thing so people will assume its real smoke, we need to use them all the time and then people will learn what they are and become use to it. The more we treat it like were doing something wrong, the more people will start to ban it or complain. The best option here is to.. for lack of a better term cause a problem, if enough people do this it will start to become normal.

Guess its just my thought that if we treat it like its a crime, they will treat it that way too.

Welcome to the forum. For your first post though I think you are a bit presumptuous. Look around a little, there are lots of things to read on here and you will get the idea. We DO NOT make spectacles of ourselves and demand our rights to vaping wherever we want, and in general that is considered rude. That would be bad, and get us banned.

Many people don't do it anywhere they wouldn't smoke a real cigarette. I am not one of them. I do it wherever it is not expressly banned, and I do it without trying to be sneaky. I just don't allow the vapor to intrude on anyone and if it isn't bothering them, what can they complain about?

I have vaped on a plane, in stores, bars and restaurants with NO problems. Many airlines do ban them, the one I was on did not. I don't bother anyone so why should they bother me about it?

 

[JessyDrastic]

i have my local after-work bar/restaurant in Weymouth, Mass that i vape in allll the time... Hajjar's Bar & Grille....
the bartender is awesome & she vapes and loves to try my flavors

 

[PureEvil]

Welcome to the forum. For your first post though I think you are a bit presumptuous. Look around a little, there are lots of things to read on here and you will get the idea. We DO NOT make spectacles of ourselves and demand our rights to vaping wherever we want, and in general that is considered rude. That would be bad, and get us banned.

Many people don't do it anywhere they wouldn't smoke a real cigarette. I am not one of them. I do it wherever it is not expressly banned, and I do it without trying to be sneaky. I just don't allow the vapor to intrude on anyone and if it isn't bothering them, what can they complain about?

I have vaped on a plane, in stores, bars and restaurants with NO problems. Many airlines do ban them, the one I was on did not. I don't bother anyone so why should they bother me about it?

Iam not saying blow it right in peoples faces lol I would agree that is rude. But to not do it or to try and hide it seems like a bad idea, if we are going to treat it like a real cig then we might as well just stick with them.


To me the whole point of a e-cig is to be able to smoke it where I cant smoke a real one, the health issues is a extra bonus but really isn't my main concern. I know that sounds kinda stupid but I really dont care that real cigs are bad for me, I just want to smoke and the main reason for me wanting a e-cig is because of real ones being banned everywhere.


So to treat it like a real one just seems counter productive, sometimes forcing a issue like this to a courtroom is the best way to handle it. It would be hard for them to justify banning a product that only has a bi-product of water. Anyone who would find it rude to fight for there rights has a backwards view of what freedom is, these are products that emit no second hand smoke and no health hazard to anyone around us. There for it does not impede on anyone's life, liberty, or pursuit for happiness. So to ban a product that has no negative effect on anyone around them would be unconstitutional and would break our freedom of expression, and maybe you don't take that seriously, but I do. Anytime you allow them to take a right away is just another blow to what this country stands for, and if you find that to be rude then maybe you need to really think hard about what freedom is, what it took to get it, and what it takes to keep it. At least in the USA, as I'am sure that you have members on here not from the USA. I'am sure not everyone will agree with my opinions, but that's the way I feel about it.




Sorry for my rant... it happens,
PureEvil

 

[vsummer1]

Iam not saying blow it right in peoples faces lol I would agree that is rude. But to not do it or to try and hide it seems like a bad idea, if we are going to treat it like a real cig then we might as well just stick with them.


To me the whole point of a e-cig is to be able to smoke it where I cant smoke a real one, the health issues is a extra bonus but really isn't my main concern. I know that sounds kinda stupid but I really dont care that real cigs are bad for me, I just want to smoke and the main reason for me wanting a e-cig is because of real ones being banned everywhere.


So to treat it like a real one just seems counter productive, sometimes forcing a issue like this to a courtroom is the best way to handle it. It would be hard for them to justify banning a product that only has a bi-product of water. Anyone who would find it rude to fight for there rights has a backwards view of what freedom is, these are products that emit no second hand smoke and no health hazard to anyone around us. There for it does not impede on anyone's life, liberty, or pursuit for happiness. So to ban a product that has no negative effect on anyone around them would be unconstitutional and would break our freedom of expression, and maybe you don't take that seriously, but I do. Anytime you allow them to take a right away is just another blow to what this country stands for, and if you find that to be rude then maybe you need to really think hard about what freedom is, what it took to get it, and what it takes to keep it. At least in the USA, as I'am sure that you have members on here not from the USA. I'am sure not everyone will agree with my opinions, but that's the way I feel about it.


Sorry for my rant... it happens,
PureEvil

They can, and do ban them. There are some pretty vocal people out there stating they are terrible and the nanny's have taken over. Cities have banned them. Please go to the section on legislative news. Go to the CASAA website.

It is just your attitude that will get it banned everywhere. You CAN'T use these wherever you please, that is a fallacy. I don't agree with it, and I agree with you that it shouldn't be, what is happening is happening because people see something they do not understand and immediately think cigarette and 2nd hand etc. By vaping and demanding "your rights" all over the place you are not helping the cause.

I am sorry to have to let you know this, but please, look around and learn what is going on.

 

[j3000]

I am fairly new to vaping but I asked the owners of my local donut shop if it is okay to vape they told me it is okay during the off season. I live in a tourist town. But they told me if to many of the locals complain I might have to go outside.

 

[vsummer1]

I am fairly new to vaping but I asked the owners of my local donut shop if it is okay to vape they told me it is okay during the off season. I live in a tourist town. But they told me if to many of the locals complain I might have to go outside.

One of the places I frequent is the same way. If it is just me and no one around, no problem. When others who might complain come in, I stop making clouds and keep the vapor to myself. All you have to do is hold it a bit longer, breath a little out your nose, inhale again and it is mostly gone. Practice that and you will be pretty much good to go anywhere. If they can't see it, they won't complain right? And that means you get to keep doing it

 

[PureEvil]

One of the places I frequent is the same way. If it is just me and no one around, no problem. When others who might complain come in, I stop making clouds and keep the vapor to myself. All you have to do is hold it a bit longer, breath a little out your nose, inhale again and it is mostly gone. Practice that and you will be pretty much good to go anywhere. If they can't see it, they won't complain right? And that means you get to keep doing it

But your right back to hiding something that shouldn't have to be. If you act like your guilty of something, and treat it like you are then other people will do the same. Your doing nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, just educate the people. If you see someone complain, get up, walk over to there table, and teach them about the product. Explain to them how its a alternative to a cig, and emits nothing but water vapor. This is the best method, not hiding and acting guilty.

 

[vsummer1]

But your right back to hiding something that shouldn't have to be. If you act like your guilty of something, and treat it like you are then other people will do the same. Your doing nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, just educate the people. If you see someone complain, get up, walk over to there table, and teach them about the product. Explain to them how its a alternative to a cig, and emits nothing but water vapor. This is the best method, not hiding and acting guilty.

PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF. I have given you the tools to do so, but since you haven't here is the link:
Legislation News

It is NOT okay because people with your attitude get it banned. See the above poster and heed his warning. PLEASE, go to the sites I referenced, read up on it and then come back after you have some sense of what is going on.

YOUR personal opinion is not going to change anything for the good, but it WILL get it banned.

ETA: http://www.casaa.org/

 

[Vector99]

I think we need to be sensetive to the "public". If we freak out too many people they WILL ban vaping too. You know that people are ignorant and fear what they dont understand. By being arrogant and self righteous we will just mess it up for everyone. I try to be subtle with my vaping. I.E. I will vape in the Subway station unobtrusively but not in the Train.. As the public becomes used to it (informed) then it should open up, but for now we should try to not freak out anyone. IMHO.

 

[The Rebel]

PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF. I have given you the tools to do so, but since you haven't here is the link:
Legislation News

It is NOT okay because people with your attitude get it banned. See the above poster and heed his warning. PLEASE, go to the sites I referenced, read up on it and then come back after you have some sense of what is going on.

YOUR personal opinion is not going to change anything for the good, but it WILL get it banned.

ETA: CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association

I don't know. I kind of lean the way that Pure does. I don't try to hide my vaping same as I never hid smoking analogs. Remember, it was legal at one time to smoke inside? I do make sure to approach the manager or bartender in any establishment to ask permission before I partake. I haven't been turned down yet and usually end up in several conversations about vaping with other customers who have heard of it and want to learn or had family members who smoke and would like to help them. I don't think hiding out in designated smoking areas and alleys to vape helps the image of it being a less harmful alternative. In fact I believe it actually hurts it more. Makes it look like you're doing something wrong. Why not at least take the civilized approach and inform the masses before ducking our heads and basically admitting defeat? Just my opinion, but one I'm sticking with...

 

[wonderland]

But your right back to hiding something that shouldn't have to be. If you act like your guilty of something, and treat it like you are then other people will do the same. Your doing nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, just educate the people. If you see someone complain, get up, walk over to there table, and teach them about the product. Explain to them how its a alternative to a cig, and emits nothing but water vapor. This is the best method, not hiding and acting guilty.

I want vaping to be publically accepted as much as anyone here, but it's not water vapor you're exhaling! it's propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerin, flavoring and very possibly nicotine! As far as I am aware, there have been no studies on whether or not exhaled vapor contains nicotine (unless your vaping 0mg juice of course). Until there are several legitimate studies done, we very well maybe expelling nicotine into people's air. So telling people it's "just water vapor" like they do on the commercials is not telling them the truth. I sincerely hope that studies comeback in the future to reassure us all that this is, in fact, is harmless to us and those around us, but until then, remember this is "harm reduction" not "harmless."


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[KarenB]

Generally I won't vape in a restaurant but if I am in a bar or club it's ON! I think when it comes to vaping people are still getting used to it and used to seeing it ... where there's smoke, there's fire and they think it's an analog and freak out a bit. Most of the time employees only ask "does that work?" and I start to talk to them about the benefits of vaping over analogs then they are fine with it.

I tend to be cognizant of the surroundings and if people are freaked out by it I would rather not vape then have the hassle of being told not to.

 

[tj99959]

Let me put it this way, I like my vape, but I don't want to endure yours while I'm eating my dinner!

If it were surveyed, this little burg that I live in probably has the highest per-capita number of vapers in the country simple because we have had one of the first really great brick & mortar vendors here. But, should also note that we were the first state in the US with a state wide BAN on vaping in any public place.

POINT BLANK non smokers do not want to put up with it! Either use a little common sense or it will be banned where you live too.

 

[TarFreeMe]

I always ask the management when I arrive at the restaurant and have never been told I couldn't vape. Usually end up explaining what it is and how it works to several interested parties and give them suggestions of where to go to give it a try if they're so inclined.

If I'm ever told that I can't vape somewhere, I'll leave and not go back. It's their right to make the rules for their establishment. As a consumer, it's my right to decide where I spend my money and where I don't.

 

[Techwipe]

If it's an actual restaurant and not a bar I won't do it at all. It's a mental thing for people. They see vapor, think it's smoke, so on and so forth. Bars on the other hand, vape like a champ.

 

[The Rebel]

A lot of people on this forum see things either black or white, no in between. One sides says "Nay, thou shall not vape at the public gatherings lest you offend the masses!". Meanwhile the other sides is yelling "We shall vape wherever we see fit without concern of those that surround us!".

Why not try the civil approach and just ask? Ask the manager/ bartender/ waitstaff if vaping is allowed? You'd be surprised how many establishments are well aware and informed of vaping. Do you realize how much business bars lost when the smoking ban went onto effect? People said the heck with it, I'll stay home to drink and smoke all I want. There's quite a few bars in my area that have welcomed vapers with open arms and open registers. Shoot, a few of them have started offering the one time use e cigs to their customers to keep them in their seats and buying booze.

Educate and enlighten. Doesn't mean you have to stuff it down anyone's throat, but it sure doesn't mean I necessarily have to step outside with the smokers either. How do you know unless you ask? People need to put away the "no you can't/ yes I can" attitudes and agree that without support from both sides we will always be fighting a losing battle.

Now join hands, tell each other your sorry, and let's get back to vaping!

 

[ImThatGuy]

Ignorance, lack of knowledge, or whatevers to our vaping cause. It is what it is. It's another form of 'smoking' to get the nicotine in our system, that habit of physically smoking, etc. There have been no long-term studies on vaping to even say it's fully safe for the user, or even for the people around us with our second-hand-vapors. The practice of tobacco smoking may have been since the times of B.C. and milleniums later we find it to be dangerous directly and indirectly to us. Respect others the way you would want them to respect you.

Here's an example to take in. I was vaping in front of my little cousin along with her boyfriend at her parent's backyard (both do not smoke). Both are way too young to legally smoke cigarettes (16 years old), but yet the boyfriend asks me what it was. He then tells me that his friends, who are the same age as him, use vaporizers as well. He then asks me if he can try it because he thinks it's cool. I said no since I have nicotine in my juice and I do not want him to be introduced to that. We all know nicotine is addicting. The act of smoking a cigarette is habitual and a bad habit. He knew it as well that's why he doesn't smoke, but yet he still asked if he can try it. Point of my story is if we vape so freely; anywhere, and everywhere then we risk, take the chance, of influencing those who we do not want to start a habit that may lead them to other things and what not.

I'm all for vaping anywhere, but if it's in the presence of others who choose not to smoke or vape then respect their lifestyle and their choice to be in that area. It is their right to be standing/sitting there just as much as it is your right to vape next to them.

Respect.