variable voltage battery question.

[mr_khaki]

I hope I'm posting in the correct area.
I'm confused about variable voltage batteries. With a larger mAh battery do you get more vapor? Does the battery just last longer? Or both? I've been using a 650mAh eGo battery with a Kanger T3 and I'm not getting an thick vapor like I was hoping I would when I made the switch from analogs (I've switched about a week ago) If you use a higher voltage do your components burn up quicker?

Can anyone make a sub $35.00 recommendation on a variable voltage battery that would work with the T3's I have? '

Thanks for all the help so far. This forum has been a wealth of information. When I first switched to an e-cig I didn't look at it as a new hobby but it's certainly become one. In typical hobby fashion a drain on my wallet. : ]

 

[StarDose]

It's becoming a drain on my wallet aswell lol

From what I understand the variable voltage lets you adjust the voltage, so the higher the voltage the higher the vapor production. I started out with a 510 setup a couple weeks ago and am finding the vapor not enough to keep me using it. I'm going with an ego twist this weekend since it is variable voltage so will see how it goes.

 

[fabricator4]

A low cost battery with variable voltage might be the Ego-C twist or a copy like this one for AU$20. (sorry, I'm in Australia so that's where I do my shopping if possible). I've got one of these coming to try out but it won't be here until next week sometime now because of the holiday. I'll probably get it Wednesday. I suspect it will have only 2 voltage selections - high and low.

The mA/h rating of the battery will not affect the vapour production, only how long it will last between charges. Increasing the voltage should increase the vapour production, but at the cost of using more power and reducing runtime between charges. Other things that will increase vapour production are increasing the ratio of VG in your juice, the type of atomiser/cartomiser you are using, and how you treat the atomiser. Running atomisers dry all the time can really mess them up.

You should probably try some other tank type cartomisers as everyone seems to have different experiences. I'm using a CE4 type clearomiser at the moment and it seems to be working quite well for me.

Chris

 

[DavidOck]

Vapor is only partly affected by voltage, and partly by the mix of PG and VG in the juice.

Higher voltage means higher power (watts) used by the heating coil, so more juice is vaporized, quicker. Too high a voltage can "pop" the coil - i.e. burn it out -- or burn the wick / juice and ruin the flavor.

VV does let you fine tune your vape, and adjust for variances in the resistance of whatever you put on the battery.

Higher mA batteries do last longer per charge, and are capable of delivering the higher current needed for some coil types.

The Vision Spinner and the eGo Twist are inexpensive ways to test the VV waters. They are both available in different sizes, both use fixed rechargeable batteries, so you don't need to also buy batteries and a charger. Spinner has an easier to read and adjust dial.

 

[The Ocelot]

I hope I'm posting in the correct area.
I'm confused about variable voltage batteries. With a larger mAh battery do you get more vapor? Does the battery just last longer?

Hi - the "mAh" of a battery refers to "milliampere-hour," which is how long a battery can be used before it needs to be charged again. 100mAh is roughly equal to 1 hour of use. The higher the mAh, the longer the battery will last between charges.

 

[The Ocelot]

Variable Voltage allows the user to increase or decrease the amount of power (watts) used by the heating element to vaporize the liquid; this affects temperature, throat hit and taste. Some juice may taste burnt at high levels, while others may seem less flavorful at low levels. It can also affect the amount of vapor produced, although the pg/vg ratio of a juice can be more important.

The Kanger T3 will fit on both the Joyetech Twist and Vision Spinner.

 

[gazzatron]

I use a nova with replaceable heads, if I use a 2.8 ohm head with my ego twist at full whack its like I'm sucking a hearty meal through a straw, don't hold me to it but I think a bigger coil and more voltage should give you a thicker tastier vape, need some backup boys and girls

 

[The Ocelot]

Twists and Spinners are very similar. The Spinner is a little wider and the dial is easier to read, but others feel the Twist performs better. Whichever you choose, I highly recommend the brand names: Joyetech Twist or Vision Spinner. There are a lot of clones on the market, which for most things I don't mind buying, but there seems to be more problems with off-brand batteries.

 

[Mity0k]

Hello world!
I lurked around here for quite a bit while deciding what to get. Thank you for all the useful info, and such an active forum. Happy to join.
I got this SLB 1200mAh USB pass-through for $33 as part of my first kit. Pass-through is primo IMO: you can vape while charging with a miniUSB wire and not a funky charger. This one is digi adjustable 3-6V in 0.1 increments, and has an LCD with a batt level. If that was a photo thread I saw, I shall post a pic there. Vendor seems legit. Ordered Friday night, received Wednesday noon.

EGO-V v2 Mega Variable Voltage Pass-Through Battery - $33.00

 

[Swampey65]

I like the Kanger's as well. I also am really fond of the ce3 clearomizer's on eGo batt's. They give a huge amount of vapor on a 3.3volt battery such as the eGo batt's you're using. I buy both the above mentioned at www.discountvapers.com and www.gotvapes.com. Of course, these two companies aren't the only game in town but, I mention them because they are highly reputable and I have done a lot of business with them both and they are all good folks.

There are many, many good companies that are here on this forum - check the vendor section out sometime for the plethora of goodies that are available out there...

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Hi Mr Khaki, Yes you are on the correct path.

Here ya go, mAh is expressed as a function of amperage-draw-per hour. The more mAh, the more runtime available with the same draw. You have that part correct, there should be no real voltage difference between two batteries of the same type with different mAh ratings, unless they are unregulated. This means that they are just batteries without any sort of throttling,(regulation) allows some of the eGo batteries to operate at the same voltage(3.3v) through the majority of the runtime versus an unregulated battery which would go from freshly charged(4.2v) to depleted(3.1v). In an unregulated battery , the voltage will have a longer high side runtime when there is more mAh available. Not all eGos are regulated.

On the question of more voltage, yes more voltage does produce more vapor. There is a limit for every delivery device, as well as a limit for every variation of liquid. These limits are a function of wattage production(heat) and can be tricky sometimes. Some flavors do well with lots of heat, some flavors do not. This is one of those things that you must experiment with to find your personal sweet spot. If you crave big billows of vapor you should try out some liquids with a higher VG ratio. VG is a key componant to big, enjoyable plumes of vapor, as well as heat.

You can produce more heat by lowering your ohm load(resistance) of the head on your t3, secondly you can achieve the same results by applying more voltage to the same ohm load you are currently using. Either scenario is harder on the battery and will cause shorter use times when compared to the alternative. You can achieve more visible vapor by increasing the amount of VG in your liquid, or by aquiring a liquid with a higher PG/VG ratio. Take a look at the liquid you are using right now, confirm what the PG/Vg ratio is and incerase the VG% by as much as your feed device will allow without causing feeding issued. Luckily the t3 does well most times with higher VG liquids.

For a sub-$35 vv device i would point you toward the Vision spinner like this Vision Spinner VV eGo Battery 1300mAh or an eGo Twist like this AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | AltSmoke.com | eGo-C Twist Battery . I own both and prefer the vision due to the higer capacity battery and the knob is a bit easier to adjust(for me personally). Good Luck. Happy Vaping.

 

[gazzatron]

Well explained iusedtoanlog

 

[hvac999]

I have a Joyetech Twist and a Vision Spinner. I prefer the Spinner because it is much easier to read and is easier to operate. They both adjust from 3.3v-4.8v.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi and welcome to ECF.

With a larger mAh battery do you get more vapor?

Mah is battery life. 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before recharge is needed.

I've been using a 650mAh eGo battery with a Kanger T3 and I'm not getting an thick vapor like I was hoping

The eGo fires at 3.3 volts. Haven't used the Kanger but too high a resistance (ohms) on the delivery device (holds and vaporizes the juice) can lead to a weak vape. Too low of resistance/ ohms and the vape is harsh. With the eGo you should be getting a solid vape if you're using the proper ohms delivery device. 1.7- 2.0 ohms would be good IMO. Lower resistance gives a warmer vape. Also realize the Kanger is a bottom coil so a cooler vape occurs. Top coil delivery devices give a warmer vape.

If you use a higher voltage do your components burn up quicker?

Yes the battery will drain quicker if at higher voltage.
I prefer the Spinner over the Twist (I own both) because the dial is easier to turn and voltage markings easier to read. On the Spinner and Twist the voltage can be adjusted from 3.2- 4.8 volts.